From: owner-wanderer-digest@smoe.org (wanderer-digest) To: wanderer-digest@smoe.org Subject: wanderer-digest V3 #20 Reply-To: wanderer@smoe.org Sender: owner-wanderer-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-wanderer-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk wanderer-digest Sunday, October 26 2003 Volume 03 : Number 020 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Wake Up! Black Crow/Song For Sharon [Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Wake Up! Black Crow/Song For Sharon --- Susan McNamara wrote: > I woke up early this morning and tried to tune my > guitar to Black Crow: > Bb Bb* Db F Ab Bb (*octave apart: Joni notation: Bb > 12 3 4 3 2) > > broke my high E string lowering it to Bb (don't you > hate it when it > breaks when you are going low? Doesn't seem right) ... > Hope you are all doing GREAT!!!! Tell me what you > are playing these days. Yes, I hate it when the strings break when you're retuning. Mine mostly break when I'm tuning up, but sometimes tuning down and you're right - it doesn't seem right, somehow. I have the worst luck with G. The alt tuning stuff I'm doing right now are "Just like this train" and "Shadows and light" because they're in the same relative tuning and I'm going with the lower tuning (whatever it is - I don't even remember, but there are a lot of flats involved and every string is tuned down.) I was looking for other songs in that same relative tuning and found "Coyote" and "DJRD". I'm finding "DJRD" really difficult because of the funny rhythms and so on. (Oh yeah, there's also "Woman of heart and mind" which I played at Jonifest and only recently realized was in that same relative tuning. D'oh!) If I could find something that was close tuning-wise, I'd try that, but my brain just can't cope with figuring this stuff out! I'm also afraid if I use too many different tunings at more-or-less the same time, that either my strings or my brain will fry. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:07:25 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Wake Up! Black Crow/Song For Sharon Oh me too catherine! I try to stay very close to one or 2 alt tunings as my base...to keep my brain from fritzing... >If I could find something that was close tuning-wise, I'd try that, but my brain just can't cope with figuring this stuff out! I'm also afraid if I use too many different tunings at more-or-less the same time, that either my strings or my brain will fry.< ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:00:58 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Wake Up! Black Crow/Song For Sharon Wait ya'll if you listen REAL careful you can hear me playing my BIG violin for ya's. LMAO!! Tuning a yes I know what that means from Song To Sharon to Hejira in a tap of a foot. Phew that was rough! Sorry! Nothing like playing an acoustic and boy Catherine I really like the sound of yours. But for instant gratification the VG-8 is so cool. I went thru about 30 songs for Janine and Dan the other night and didn't even break a sweat. I am going to sell one of the VG-8's that I have if anyone on this list is interested. I want $500 for it and will throw in a $100 ram card to expand the memory and load them up with cool sounds of your choice. I am also thinking of selling my Roland Ready (which means it has a GK2A pick up to talk to the VG-8 already built in) Fender American Strat (Black). The guitar is very rare cause they only made them for a short while. Now they only make the Mexican ones and of course they are not as good. The original retail of this guitar was $1400.00 and I am selling it for $800. Pics on this link scroll down ( http://www.jmdl.com/jonifest/jf990904.cfm ). If you want the cheapest way to go with the VG-8 you can get a Mexican Roland Ready Strat for around $500 at most major guitar retailers. Write me privately if you are interested in getting into the world of open tunings with NO retuning. Best Paz P.S. Did I just hear another string break somewhere??? > --- Susan McNamara wrote: > I woke > up early this morning and tried to tune my >> guitar to Black Crow: >> Bb Bb* Db F Ab Bb (*octave apart: Joni notation: Bb >> 12 3 4 3 2) >> >> broke my high E string lowering it to Bb (don't you >> hate it when it >> breaks when you are going low? Doesn't seem right) > ... >> Hope you are all doing GREAT!!!! Tell me what you >> are playing these days. > > Yes, I hate it when the strings break when you're > retuning. Mine mostly break when I'm tuning up, but > sometimes tuning down and you're right - it doesn't > seem right, somehow. I have the worst luck with G. > > The alt tuning stuff I'm doing right now are "Just > like this train" and "Shadows and light" because > they're in the same relative tuning and I'm going with > the lower tuning (whatever it is - I don't even > remember, but there are a lot of flats involved and > every string is tuned down.) I was looking for other > songs in that same relative tuning and found "Coyote" > and "DJRD". I'm finding "DJRD" really difficult > because of the funny rhythms and so on. (Oh yeah, > there's also "Woman of heart and mind" which I played > at Jonifest and only recently realized was in that > same relative tuning. D'oh!) > > If I could find something that was close tuning-wise, > I'd try that, but my brain just can't cope with > figuring this stuff out! I'm also afraid if I use too > many different tunings at more-or-less the same time, > that either my strings or my brain will fry. > > > ===== > Catherine > Toronto > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --> - > We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:15:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Wake Up! Black Crow/Song For Sharon --- Michael Paz wrote: > I am going to sell one of the VG-8's that I > have if anyone on this > list is interested. I want $500 for it and will > throw in a $100 ram card to > expand the memory and load them up with cool sounds > of your choice. I am > also thinking of selling my Roland Ready (which > means it has a GK2A pick up > to talk to the VG-8 already built in) Fender > American Strat (Black). I don't really understand what this VG-8 thing really is. Is the VG-8 a separate thing from the guitar? Can you plug any guitar into it, or does it have to be a particular kind of guitar? Does it have to be electric or could you plus an acoustic into it too? Could your guitar be out of tune and still sound in-tune if it were plugged into a VG-8? and other questions of that kind... ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:16:29 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Wake Up! Black Crow/Song For Sharon That's a good deal imo for anyone wanting to venture into vg8 land...(I should have had a vg8...hahahah) but I have decided to stay committed to acoustic & am mastering the fine art of tuning...;~} Catherine you need an electric guitar for a vg8 because otherwise you'd hear the acoustic strings sounding in one tuning & the electronic tuning coming out in a different tuning...(I hope that made sense) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:28:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: Wake Up! Black Crow/Song For Sharon --- Kate Bennett wrote: > > Catherine you need > an electric guitar for a vg8 because otherwise you'd > hear the acoustic > strings sounding in one tuning & the electronic > tuning coming out in a > different tuning...(I hope that made sense) Yrp. It certainly does. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ End of wanderer-digest V3 #20 *****************************