From: owner-wanderer-digest@smoe.org (wanderer-digest) To: wanderer-digest@smoe.org Subject: wanderer-digest V3 #12 Reply-To: wanderer@smoe.org Sender: owner-wanderer-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-wanderer-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk wanderer-digest Saturday, August 23 2003 Volume 03 : Number 012 Today's Subjects: ----------------- CHANGE IN DATE for Joni Open Mike in Ithaca, NY [Susan McNamara ] Re: My Crazy B tuning set [Susan McNamara ] Re: My Crazy B tuning set [Catherine McKay ] RE: My Crazy B tuning set ["Kate Bennett" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:45:18 -0400 From: Susan McNamara Subject: CHANGE IN DATE for Joni Open Mike in Ithaca, NY Thought I would alert you that there has been a change in the date of the Ithaca, NY Joni Open Mike hosted by Patti Witten: Thursday, October 2 Hosting the ONLY JONI OPEN MIC @ Juna's Cafe , 8-11PM, Ithaca NY. Sign up @ 7:15PM to play a Joni Mitchell song. $3 cover. go to www.pattiwitten.com for other gig info on patti. I'll be there with a crazy B tuning set. take care, sue - -- "Heart and humor and humility will lighten up your heavy load ... " - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:54:33 -0400 From: Susan McNamara Subject: My Crazy B tuning set Just in case you were wondering about my crazy B tuning set for the joni open mike and are sure you can't go, here are the tabs for the songs I've been working on. Maybe it will get a discussion going on this list that is not on the level of mental telepathy!!! I know you are out there! :-) The Magdalene Laundries http://216.247.66.89/guitar/themagdalenelaundries-sm-c.cfm Eastern Rain http://216.247.66.89/guitar/easternrain-sm-t.cfm Songs to Aging Children Come http://216.247.66.89/guitar/songstoagingchildrencome-mr-c.cfm Carnival in Kenora (Mark has it in C, I tune it in B75754 so that my vocal chords don't snap) http://216.247.66.89/guitar/carnivalinkenora-md-t.cfm Song to A Seagull (again Howard has it in C, I tune it B75750) http://216.247.66.89/guitar/carnivalinkenora-md-t.cfm this is what I'm practicing although you are only allowed two songs at the open mike. I'll probably change my mind about 8 times before October 2! take care, sue - -- "Heart and humor and humility will lighten up your heavy load ... " - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 12:05:07 -0400 From: Susan McNamara Subject: Re: My Crazy B tuning set Hi Catherine! I know you guys are out there because i have 36 subscribers. >OK, there are people out here, Sue. You're not alone. >Do you ever long for one of those VG-8s? To tell you the truth, I did play Paz's VG-8 for about a month (he so graciously leant it to me) and I really loved it, but it is an electric guitar and there is something just too earthy about an acoustic alternately tuned. Plus it's like a meditation with me to get the tuning perfect (with the help of a keyboard) and then move from song to song. You are right, working in what Joni calls "a family of tunings" is so much easier than trying to sort songs in other ways. I think that is the most important utility of the database, that it can be sorted in so many ways so you can create that family of tunings for small sets of songs. But you are right, tuning is a bitch. :-) > > >I find myself wanting to do Joni songs in "standard" >harmony (but then you get a different sound which >works in some cases & not in others.) The only way I've heard Joni's song sound somewhat decent in standard tunings is when you use a lot of what Nancy Wilson calls "open chords." That's when you move up and down the fret board playing parts of chords and leaving other strings open. If I had the mathematical mind of a music theorist we might be able to construct tabs that would sound ok using this theory, but that's why Joni writes in alternate tunings. She wanted the jazz chords without having to do the crazy fingerings. Playing the straight chords from the standard tuning songbooks just left me so unsatisfied (which led to the creation of the site). Barre chords were a problem for me too but I realized after a while that it was the action on my guitar. I recently got a new guitar where the action is a lot better and it makes barring a lot easier. Lighter strings sometimes help, too. Not a useless post at all!!!! keep it coming! take care, sue >Well, that was a fairly useless post, I guess, but now >you know someone's reading yours, don't you? > >;) > > >===== >Catherine >Toronto - -- "Heart and humor and humility will lighten up your heavy load ... " - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 12:11:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: My Crazy B tuning set --- Susan McNamara wrote: > Hi Catherine! > > I know you guys are out there because i have 36 > subscribers. > > > >OK, there are people out here, Sue. You're not > alone. > > > > >Do you ever long for one of those VG-8s? > > To tell you the truth, I did play Paz's VG-8 for > about a month (he so > graciously leant it to me) and I really loved it, > but it is an > electric guitar and there is something just too > earthy about an > acoustic alternately tuned. Plus it's like a > meditation with me to > get the tuning perfect (with the help of a keyboard) > and then move > from song to song. I agree with you on that. I love the "feel" of an acoustic. You get this "thrum" in your ribcage that an electric doesn't provide (if it did, it would probably just an electrical shock!) ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:10:01 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: My Crazy B tuning set hi sue! i love that open c tuning that you are using (tho you put it in b) & have written a song or 2 in it... thanks for the heads up about songs to aging children being in that tuning, i'm gonna try it! here's a question i have...i've been loving the daddad tuning & have explored tunings close to it (learning midway in the dadead)...& i just discovered that dawntreader is also close (dgddad) but i cannot understand how to read the tuning on the jmdl guitar site for this song (i think i am definately tab challenged!) can you or someone who understand help translate this? this is the only way that tabs make sense to me (from songs to aging children as an example): |||||| |||||| 888888 777777 |||||| |||||| Through the windless wells of wonder Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com ------------------------------ End of wanderer-digest V3 #12 *****************************