From: owner-wanderer-digest@smoe.org (wanderer-digest) To: wanderer-digest@smoe.org Subject: wanderer-digest V1 #18 Reply-To: wanderer@smoe.org Sender: owner-wanderer-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-wanderer-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk wanderer-digest Saturday, October 27 2001 Volume 01 : Number 018 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Wanderer Website ["Marian" ] Re: Wanderer Website [Susan McNamara ] Re: Wanderer Website [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Wanderer Website [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Wanderer Website ["Marian" ] Re: Wanderer Website ["Marian" ] Re: making sound bytes for Wanderer website ["Marian" ] Re: Wanderer Website [Mark Domyancich ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:17:15 +0100 From: "Marian" Subject: Re: Wanderer Website "Susan McNamara" wrote: > Les also thought maybe making separate sound bytes for each string > may work, too. Then you would combine those sound bytes to make each > tuning. Comprende? This would be a whole lot easier. If we start with the third A below middle C and go to the F# above middle C, this would be a total of only 34 tones (assuming we are not going to be having samples of a same tuning pattern with the capo on). That means someone could sit down and record the 34 tones between that low A and F# as sound bytes. The sound bytes could then be combined to make the 80 tunings in the database and probably a whole lot of other tunings besides. Would the tones have to be made with a guitar? In what format should the sound bytes be stored? How could/would they be put together into one sound byte of the sound of a given tuning? marian@jmdl.com http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/marian/guitar.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 08:43:34 -0400 From: Susan McNamara Subject: Re: Wanderer Website Thanks, Marian. I was hoping someone would be able to come up with how many notes we would need. 34 doesn't sound too bad. Have you ever seen another guitar website that has done this before? I used to go to this site called "Guitar Chord of the Day" which had some sounds of the notes. I wonder if that site is still around. Well, I just did a yahoo search and couldn't find it. Anyway, I think this would be a great addition to the site, and if it doesn't get too memory heavy, I would like to also record strums of the more popular and/or interesting tunings. We could even use sound bytes from parts of Joni's songs. She likes to end songs with that cascading open down strum (especially on the early albums). Les suggested Mp3 format, needs less space and has a quicker download time. I think my preference would be to have the tones recorded with a guitar, but we'll see what happens. take care, sue >"Susan McNamara" wrote: > >> Les also thought maybe making separate sound bytes for each string >> may work, too. Then you would combine those sound bytes to make each >> tuning. Comprende? > >This would be a whole lot easier. If we start with the third A below middle >C and go to the F# above middle C, this would be a total of only 34 tones >(assuming we are not going to be having samples of a same tuning pattern >with the capo on). That means someone could sit down and record the 34 >tones between that low A and F# as sound bytes. The sound bytes could then >be combined to make the 80 tunings in the database and probably a whole lot >of other tunings besides. Would the tones have to be made with a guitar? >In what format should the sound bytes be stored? How could/would they be >put together into one sound byte of the sound of a given tuning? > >marian@jmdl.com >http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/marian/guitar.htm - -- "Heart and humor and humility will lighten up your heavy load ... " - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:09:59 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Wanderer Website In a message dated 10/26/01 8:45:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sem8@cornell.edu writes: > I used > to go to this site called "Guitar Chord of the Day" which had some > sounds of the notes. I wonder if that site is still around. Well, I > just did a yahoo search and couldn't find it. Anyway, I think this > would be a great addition to the site, and if it doesn't get too > memory heavy, I would like to also record strums of the more popular > and/or interesting tunings Hi Sue! There was this guitar chords generator site that I had saved in my list of favorites. You can compute any chord and then play it. You can also select other variations by clicking on the next button. The site also has some other neet features. It may give you some ideas. You can use the chords without internet connecting and download them as free java application. the site can be found at: www.kytara.cz peace, Rose rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:16:35 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Wanderer Website ooops, forgot to tell you, click on the British flag to your left for the English version ;~) rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 16:53:30 +0100 From: "Marian" Subject: Re: Wanderer Website "Susan McNamara" wrote: > ... if it doesn't get too > memory heavy, I would like to also record > strums of the more popular and/or interesting > tunings. We could even use sound bytes from > parts of Joni's songs. She likes to end songs with > that cascading open down strum (especially on > the early albums). That's a great idea, Sue. Marian marian@jmdl.com http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/marian/guitar.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 16:59:49 +0100 From: "Marian" Subject: Re: Wanderer Website RoseMJoy@aol.com wrote: > There was this guitar chords generator > site that I had saved in my list of favorites. > You can compute any chord and then play it. > You can also select other variations by > clicking on the next button. The site also > has some other neet features. It may give > you some ideas. You can use the chords > without internet connecting and download > them as free java application. > the site can be found at: http://www.kytara.cz > click on the British flag to your left > for the English version ;~) I like the sounds they use. It sounds like they recorded a real guitar. marian@jmdl.com http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/marian/guitar.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 17:12:55 +0100 From: "Marian" Subject: Re: making sound bytes for Wanderer website "Susan McNamara" wrote: > Well, I had a chat with Les about doing sound bytes at the site and I > thought it would be nice to have the sound of different tunings. For > example, if you had a conversation about a CGCFCE tuning, you could > click on it and hear the strum. Of course this would depend on > whether the person doing the strum was in tune! I wonder if we couldn't produce these tuning samples via the VG-8 somehow. It is possible to make the VG-8 in tune (it has a built-in tuner). I know it is possible to send the patches to a computer - it has midi connectors. Probably its actual strummed sounds could also be sent to a computer. Paz, do you know anything about this? Would the VG-8 be a good/easy way to create the sound samples that Sue wants? Marian marian@jmdl.com http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/marian/guitar.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 16:54:50 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Wanderer Website I hate to pour water on the fire, but there are computer-based shareware or freeware guitar tuners available. Those have always worked for me. Plus you could just buy a chromatic guitar tuner for less than 50 bucks. That way you'll have the exact note. Mark ------------------------------ End of wanderer-digest V1 #18 *****************************