From: owner-velvet-station-digest@smoe.org (velvet-station-digest) To: velvet-station-digest@smoe.org Subject: velvet-station-digest V4 #27 Reply-To: velvet-station@smoe.org Sender: owner-velvet-station-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-velvet-station-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk velvet-station-digest Sunday, June 3 2001 Volume 04 : Number 027 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [VS] ....caught onto the wonders of Stina Nordenstam .... [Wmvrrvrrmm@aol] Re: [VS] ....caught onto the wonders of Stina Nordenstam .... [Stefan Gra] Re: [VS] ....caught onto the wonders of Stina Nordenstam .... ["Adam Walt] Re: [VS] ....caught onto the wonders of Stina Nordenstam .... [Wmvrrvrrmm] Re: [VS] ....caught onto the wonders of Stina Nordenstam .... [Wmvrrvrrmm] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 08:43:31 EDT From: Wmvrrvrrmm@aol.com Subject: [VS] ....caught onto the wonders of Stina Nordenstam .... I've just caught onto the wonders of Stina Nordernstam since a certain Bertrand in Sweden mentioned that Stina is an inspiratiion behind Anja. I think that Stina sounds demented, maybe as if someone tried to sufforcate her as a child and cut off the oxygen supply to the brain for too long, and she wonders around with her eyes half closed. She sounds as if she ought to be a something that wanders around the world of moomintrolls, or a rag doll sitting on Bjork's shelf in a a dream thatt came about from eating too much cheese late at night. I've just bought her "And she closed her eyes" cd and it's all been MP3d on my Mac. Naturally I'm keeping that CD, and I don't want you to think any thing else in light of the scum who buy CDs, record the contents onto something else and then return the CD and I'm not handing out my MP3s to anyone. There is something curious about Stina, this familiar sense of child like mumblings that you get with Anja. I think that Anja is going in another direction with the help of her ability to be inspired by Laurie Anderson, which is evident and is a fact, and maybe in her latest album she's turning into a Marilyn Monroe on LSD . I think that Stina is trying to keep things simple as a pebble for some reason Actually listening to Stina fills me with a kind of a rage, as if I've been involved in a relationship with her and it went sour, I didn't do anything wrong other than be completely boring and useless and she walked out blaming me for a number of things that had nothing to do with me and then she made the album about it to tell the world and and she's singing about her own version of events and every words he says is completely untrue, and I'm feeling used and meanwhile fear that everyone across the world will believe her version of events because every one goes soppy over her sweet sound, people will probably attack me in the middle of the streets for having wasted her time and I realise I should never have got involved with a girl like that, because these half asleep talented brain damaged troglodyte babes, I suppose, can be dodgy experiences just to drive you nuts. Maybe forever I'll be trying to get my own dignity back.without success. Before I get any death threats, I'll just state that I've not been closely involved with Stina or anyone like her for that matter, so I don't know where the reactions are coming from, and actually I don't know any of the lyrics from the album, they're not written down, it s just the way her sound translates in my head. So what's her best album? Dominic The Velvet Belly Page An unofficial fansite dedicated to the Norwegian band Velvet Belly ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 15:33:13 +0200 From: Stefan Granbom Subject: Re: [VS] ....caught onto the wonders of Stina Nordenstam .... At 08:43 2001-06-02 EDT, Wmvrrvrrmm@aol.com wrote: >So what's her best album? > I like "memories of a color" most, it has a more jazzy sound, and is more easy-listened (accessible?) than for instance "Dynamite". The best CD is the EP "the photgraphers wife", which was made for a movie, which i don't think was finished..! I must say that i was completely Wrrrroong about the two first albums with Velvet Belly, they are actually good! I should know by now not to judge a CD after listen to a CD just once, especially when the group is Velvet Belly...! "But" is good among many others. /Stefan n.p. China Crisis - Working with fire and steel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:15:47 -0700 From: "Adam Walter" Subject: Re: [VS] ....caught onto the wonders of Stina Nordenstam .... >Actually listening to Stina fills me with a kind of a rage, as if I've been >involved in a relationship with her and it went sour, I didn't do anything >wrong other than be completely boring and useless and she walked out blaming >me for a number of things that had nothing to do with me... [SNIP] I feel something similar in Velvet Belly's song "The Key." It sounds to me as if, after the relationship has broken up, one person is rehearsing their story of the-way-things-went and why-we-broke-up. They seem to be connecting the dots, filling in reasons for the actions and events that occurred at the end of the relationship, trying to pin down the emotional chaos on a map or grid. I'm always suspicious when someone uses the following sort of line to explain why a relationship didn't work: "I did not know just who you were." ~Adam ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 18:06:22 EDT From: Wmvrrvrrmm@aol.com Subject: Re: [VS] ....caught onto the wonders of Stina Nordenstam .... In a message dated 02/06/2001 18:16:11, awalter1@prodigy.net writes: << I'm always suspicious when someone uses the following sort of line to explain why a relationship didn't work: "I did not know just who you were." >> I've actually realised that the Lyrics are in the booklet with the Stina album, but none of them have any connection with the thing inside my head. I was definitely involved in an abstract thing. I'm still a bit unsure what Velvet Belly's The Key was about, apart from people discovering their limits with one another in their emotional games . ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 18:06:25 EDT From: Wmvrrvrrmm@aol.com Subject: Re: [VS] ....caught onto the wonders of Stina Nordenstam .... In a message dated 02/06/2001 15:37:32, stefan.granbom@socmed.gu.se writes: ><< I like "memories of a color" most, it has a more jazzy sound, and is more >easy-listened (accessible?) than for instance "Dynamite". The best CD is >the EP "the photgraphers wife", which was made for a movie, which i don't >think was finished..! I'll take note of them, definitely >I must say that i was completely Wrrrroong about the two first albums with >Velvet Belly, they are actually good! I should know by now not to judge a >CD after listen to a CD just once, especially when the group is Velvet >Belly...! "But" is good among many others. >> I think that the two earliest Velvet Belly CDs aren't streamlined like the following ones maybe. They have a primitive quality to them, although My Gold is something very special, but the albums don't have the same other dimensional haze that the following ones have that keep the listener on a platform of velvety clouds watching the going ons in a happy sad world. Anne-Marie sometimes in the first two albums sings in a harsh way some times as if almost she loosely half thinks she's Debbie Harry, which is fine. I listen to them the least, but then I can get obsessed about the second album for periods of time, very obsessed. ------------------------------ End of velvet-station-digest V4 #27 ***********************************