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velvet-station-digest Sunday, June 3 2001 Volume 04 : Number 027
Today's Subjects:
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[VS] ....caught onto the wonders of Stina Nordenstam .... [Wmvrrvrrmm@aol]
Re: [VS] ....caught onto the wonders of Stina Nordenstam .... [Stefan Gra]
Re: [VS] ....caught onto the wonders of Stina Nordenstam .... ["Adam Walt]
Re: [VS] ....caught onto the wonders of Stina Nordenstam .... [Wmvrrvrrmm]
Re: [VS] ....caught onto the wonders of Stina Nordenstam .... [Wmvrrvrrmm]
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Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 08:43:31 EDT
From: Wmvrrvrrmm@aol.com
Subject: [VS] ....caught onto the wonders of Stina Nordenstam ....
I've just caught onto the wonders of Stina Nordernstam since a certain
Bertrand in Sweden mentioned that Stina is an inspiratiion behind Anja. I
think that Stina sounds demented, maybe as if someone tried to sufforcate her
as a child and cut off the oxygen supply to the brain for too long, and she
wonders around with her eyes half closed. She sounds as if she ought to be a
something that wanders around the world of moomintrolls, or a rag doll
sitting on Bjork's shelf in a a dream thatt came about from eating too much
cheese late at night.
I've just bought her "And she closed her eyes" cd and it's all been MP3d on
my Mac. Naturally I'm keeping that CD, and I don't want you to think any
thing else in light of the scum who buy CDs, record the contents onto
something else and then return the CD and I'm not handing out my MP3s to
anyone.
There is something curious about Stina, this familiar sense of child like
mumblings that you get with Anja. I think that Anja is going in another
direction with the help of her ability to be inspired by Laurie Anderson,
which is evident and is a fact, and maybe in her latest album she's turning
into a Marilyn Monroe on LSD . I think that Stina is trying to keep things
simple as a pebble for some reason
Actually listening to Stina fills me with a kind of a rage, as if I've been
involved in a relationship with her and it went sour, I didn't do anything
wrong other than be completely boring and useless and she walked out blaming
me for a number of things that had nothing to do with me and then she made
the album about it to tell the world and and she's singing about her own
version of events and every words he says is completely untrue, and I'm
feeling used and meanwhile fear that everyone across the world will believe
her version of events because every one goes soppy over her sweet sound,
people will probably attack me in the middle of the streets for having wasted
her time and I realise I should never have got involved with a girl like
that, because these half asleep talented brain damaged troglodyte babes, I
suppose, can be dodgy experiences just to drive you nuts. Maybe forever I'll
be trying to get my own dignity back.without success.
Before I get any death threats, I'll just state that I've not been closely
involved with Stina or anyone like her for that matter, so I don't know
where the reactions are coming from, and actually I don't know any of the
lyrics from the album, they're not written down, it s just the way her sound
translates in my head.
So what's her best album?
Dominic
The Velvet Belly Page
An unofficial fansite dedicated to the Norwegian band Velvet Belly
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Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 15:33:13 +0200
From: Stefan Granbom
Subject: Re: [VS] ....caught onto the wonders of Stina Nordenstam ....
At 08:43 2001-06-02 EDT, Wmvrrvrrmm@aol.com wrote:
>So what's her best album?
>
I like "memories of a color" most, it has a more jazzy sound, and is more
easy-listened (accessible?) than for instance "Dynamite". The best CD is
the EP "the photgraphers wife", which was made for a movie, which i don't
think was finished..!
I must say that i was completely Wrrrroong about the two first albums with
Velvet Belly, they are actually good! I should know by now not to judge a
CD after listen to a CD just once, especially when the group is Velvet
Belly...! "But" is good among many others.
/Stefan
n.p. China Crisis - Working with fire and steel
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Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:15:47 -0700
From: "Adam Walter"
Subject: Re: [VS] ....caught onto the wonders of Stina Nordenstam ....
>Actually listening to Stina fills me with a kind of a rage, as if I've been
>involved in a relationship with her and it went sour, I didn't do anything
>wrong other than be completely boring and useless and she walked out
blaming
>me for a number of things that had nothing to do with me... [SNIP]
I feel something similar in Velvet Belly's song "The Key." It sounds to me
as if, after the relationship has broken up, one person is rehearsing their
story of the-way-things-went and why-we-broke-up. They seem to be
connecting the dots, filling in reasons for the actions and events that
occurred at the end of the relationship, trying to pin down the emotional
chaos on a map or grid. I'm always suspicious when someone uses the
following sort of line to explain why a relationship didn't work: "I did not
know just who you were."
~Adam
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Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 18:06:22 EDT
From: Wmvrrvrrmm@aol.com
Subject: Re: [VS] ....caught onto the wonders of Stina Nordenstam ....
In a message dated 02/06/2001 18:16:11, awalter1@prodigy.net writes:
<< I'm always suspicious when someone uses the
following sort of line to explain why a relationship didn't work: "I did not
know just who you were."
>>
I've actually realised that the Lyrics are in the booklet with the Stina
album, but none of them have any connection with the thing inside my head. I
was definitely involved in an abstract thing.
I'm still a bit unsure what Velvet Belly's The Key was about, apart from
people discovering their limits with one another in their emotional games .
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Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 18:06:25 EDT
From: Wmvrrvrrmm@aol.com
Subject: Re: [VS] ....caught onto the wonders of Stina Nordenstam ....
In a message dated 02/06/2001 15:37:32, stefan.granbom@socmed.gu.se writes:
><< I like "memories of a color" most, it has a more jazzy sound, and is more
>easy-listened (accessible?) than for instance "Dynamite". The best CD is
>the EP "the photgraphers wife", which was made for a movie, which i don't
>think was finished..!
I'll take note of them, definitely
>I must say that i was completely Wrrrroong about the two first albums with
>Velvet Belly, they are actually good! I should know by now not to judge a
>CD after listen to a CD just once, especially when the group is Velvet
>Belly...! "But" is good among many others. >>
I think that the two earliest Velvet Belly CDs aren't streamlined like the
following ones maybe. They have a primitive quality to them, although My Gold
is something very special, but the albums don't have the same other
dimensional haze that the following ones have that keep the listener on a
platform of velvety clouds watching the going ons in a happy sad world.
Anne-Marie sometimes in the first two albums sings in a harsh way some times
as if almost she loosely half thinks she's Debbie Harry, which is fine. I
listen to them the least, but then I can get obsessed about the second album
for periods of time, very obsessed.
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