From: owner-trajectory-digest@smoe.org (trajectory-digest) To: trajectory-digest@smoe.org Subject: trajectory-digest V1 #4 Reply-To: trajectory@smoe.org Sender: owner-trajectory-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-trajectory-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk trajectory-digest Tuesday, August 26 1997 Volume 01 : Number 004 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: bumbershoot et al. [Lori Shiraishi ] weighing in (fwd) [Dan Dickinson ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 17:57:59 -0700 From: Lori Shiraishi Subject: Re: bumbershoot et al. meredith and neile wondered: > >>Well, they played together at the Winnipeg Folk Festival once, and I heard >>rumours about them playing together recently at the Vancouver Folk >>Festival. I don't know if it is true or not. > >Kat and/or Lori could probably set us straight on that one. :) straight... uh uh huh huh... okay, so i'm thankfully out of practice on my butthead routine. Anyhow, it is true that both ani and veda played at this recent Vancouver Folk Fest, but alas, no co-performances (sheesh, i can't think of the right word!) were found. Ani played her mainstage show on Sat night after playing in a Grrls with Guitars workshop with Kinnie Starr and Selina Martin (hey, doesn't Blanche count as a guitar?!). Veda performed in about four workshops with a variety of other folk, and had a mainstage set on Sunday night (which we missed to see Ani in Seattle - prolly the wrong choice). We caught three of the Veda workshops, though - and the last one kicked ass - - Sunday morning "Singing in the Trees" with Dee Carstensen and Lhasa and all their respective band members (except the Smokin' Combo). There was some very rockin' impromptu percussion accompaniment provided by both Philip Hamilton of Dee's band (he's sooo cool) and Lhasa's percussionist (sorry, didn't catch a name). Veda was clearly jazzed by Philip's excellent drumming, and everyone jammed along with '79 Rose at the end (how about an accordion solo?). Dee took over Veda's keyboard for a Buffalo Springfield song to end the workshop, so Philip gave Veda a shaker egg to play. We saw Andy Stochansky cruising around on Sat (at Utah Phillips' set) - but didn't see him join in on anyone else's set. Ani and her crew were only at the VFF on Sat. > and I came across an article that I really thought >mentioned something about her opening for Ani in Toronto. I may have to >try to find that site again. Ahh - I, too, recall mention of such an occurance - I think I've got a boot of Ani's set there, and she mentions thanking Veda for opening. Bummed I don't have a boot of that... lori who wants everyone going to bumbershoot to please come see wendy bucklew at 5:15 saturday on the music box stage ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 20:27:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Dickinson Subject: weighing in (fwd) Meant for the whole list, no doubt ... - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 19:48:03 -0700 (PDT) From: kat To: Dan Dickinson Subject: weighing in One of my favorite humans wrote: >> I don't know about that -- there is a surprising percentage of Veda fans >> over on the Ani list! Maybe I'm living in a cocoon, but I think even among >> Ani fans there are more people who care more about the music than the >> politics. > >I agree, Meredith ... I've always felt it was not so much Ani's >*politics* as it was her attitude, her keen observations, the skillful But I do have to admit that i liked her politics and her message. >way she delivered her messages that was at the heart of Ani's appeal. >(I'm using past tense here ... since NAPG, Ani hasn't impressed me or >many others.) and what is interesting is that i have heard arguments that her political message was so blunt but I think her current songs lack subtelty as well as a good play with and on words. >At her best, Ani is volatile, and I sense the same kind of energy in >Veda. But Veda is more poetic and her music more complex than Ani's >4-chord songs. HEY! Dan, not all of ani's stuff is 4-chord. What makes Veda a more skilled musician is that she has a sense of song and that craftwomanship or some bullshit is there. She has obviously mastered teh basics in a fairly classical way, yet her ability to build a beautiful and moving song isn't in anyway boring. Veda also has a much better songwriting ability and is much better with words in general or at least words in a literary sense. Veda has more subtelty than Ani, but geez, so does a slegehammer! What is fascinating is that Veda's music, while being complex, is still accessible for folks like me who tend not to understand music that well... I know what I like and all that jazz. I mean that it is accessible in that catchy, in my head sort of way. anyhow, lori is almost done with dinner and so I guess I should go now. Plus I had a long day but i got a raise! hugs to you all, kat who is so damn proud of herself. ------------------------------ End of trajectory-digest V1 #4 ******************************