From: owner-trailer-park-digest@smoe.org (trailer-park-digest) To: trailer-park-digest@smoe.org Subject: trailer-park-digest V2 #41 Reply-To: trailer-park Sender: owner-trailer-park-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-trailer-park-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk trailer-park-digest Friday, March 30 2001 Volume 02 : Number 041 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:12:13 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Peter=20Westlake?= Subject: Re: i'm not overbearing!! :( didactic is a nicer word. I've just looked it up as well...and I too think that it's a fantastic word. I think a lot of people would use it to describe me - hopefully for the good reason, not the bad one. S.P.P.P. - --- Donn Patton wrote: > As much as I may be uninterested by Octagonal's > posts, I really do believe > this list needs to lighten up a bit. Octagonal... > post on! > > Didactic is a good word. I looked it up! I will use > it often! :) > > Yours in Beth and Bob > > Donn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "*octagonal*" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 9:29 PM > Subject: i'm not overbearing!! :( didactic is a > nicer word. > > > > Vis a vis my last email, I was having one of > those lost and restless > nights, > > Ally McBeal nearly made me cry... which doesn't > say much for my emotional > > state.. hehe... > > Having said that, I'm not going to go to the > bother of writing two > seperate > > private emails when I'm on a friggin' mailing > list. Beth related or > not... > > I want vindication. So mmner. just put up with > me for one more time. > > I think these were some highly dodgy arguments... > > > > Ariane wrote: > > >content has been crafted to suit an audience of > conservative mainstream > > >teenagers who would have never heard of the > Triffids and certainly > wouldn't be > > > > How long ago did they do a Triffids jfile? Not > that long ago. > > Would I had ever had heard of the Triffids had I > not listened to Triple > J.. > > I probably never would have. > > > > >able to tell you about the Laughing Clowns. Nor > would they have gone to > the > > >first BDO, or even tell you who played there. > > > > So? > > > > >On a feminist note, I must ask where the female > presenters are? We have > two > > >men 6-9am, one man 9-12midday, a woman 12-3pm, > and a man 3-6pm on > weekdays. > > >What's all that about? > > > > Uh huh, so since when did the basic tenet of > feminism be the ability to > > divide by two? > > From 6am-10pm Monday to Friday there are six > people on air- 4 males, 2 > > females. > > This fluctuates all the time. Only three or so > years ago it was well and > > truly the > > other way. Then Saturday night and Sunday night's > shows are solo females > > hosts ... so I think labelling Triple J some sort > of patriarchal oppressor > > is a bit much. > > But as the wonderful Baterz sings.. > > "there's no harm in being paranoid" > > :) > > > > niko wrote: > > >You know a station is going downhill when they > cater to people wearing > > >Guevara shirts, and hammer and sickle logo's at > the BDO - buying coke > and > > >carrying Sony, as they tell 'Abo' jokes (racist > Australian Aboriginal > > >jokes). > > > > How is any of this relevant in the slightest way?? > > Are you seriously accusing Triple J of inciting > pseudo-socialist > tendencies, > > promotion of multi national companies, and racist > hatred all at the same > > time? That's like the longest and most > misdirected bow drawn in the > history > > of the world. Sheesh... > > > > AND TRIPLE J PLAYS BETH ORTON!! > > AND "EWWWWWWW DAVE GRANEY" NOTHING!! > > Dave Graney is a Beth Orton fan and he is the > reason for me being > introuduced > > to Beth Orton. And Dave Graney did a cover of > "dolphins" himself, way > back > > in 1989 on an album.. And put it in his set -just > for me- last year... > > Yay for me. > > > > > > "i'm riding through this valley, all the way, yeah > on my own, > > goin' to learn to say live by myself, gonna learn > to be alone" > > John Butler > -"inspiration" > > Peter Fiebig ~ occy@camtech.net.au ~ ICQ 3596528 > > "everything that's good about now, might just > glide right past" > > Beth Orton -"central reservation" Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:08:54 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Peter=20Westlake?= Subject: Re: i'm not overbearing!! :( didactic is a nicer word. Which episode was it? S.P.P.P. p.s. Yes, Chris, I know that this has nothing to do with Beth, but sometimes that's the best way. When the album comes out we'll all get bored eventually with "which song is best" and "what do you think this means, blah, blah, blah". I'm sure that you wouldn't talk TO Beth about her music (if at all) and nothing else, would you. If you want, we can discuss the *value* of the Hear'Say album. - --- *octagonal* wrote: > Vis a vis my last email, I was having one of those > lost and restless nights, > Ally McBeal nearly made me cry... which doesn't say > much for my emotional > state.. hehe... Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:03:35 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Peter=20Westlake?= Subject: Re: aaaand another thing *hehe* I have a friend who lives in Clarendon. Not at all relevant, but I just thought I'd mention it. S.P.P.P. - --- *octagonal* wrote: > At 10:55 PM 3/25/01, you wrote: > >I started listening to Beth when Central > Reservation came out and bought > >Trailer Park almost immediately after. I've seen > Beth twice, at the Big > >Day Out in Adelaide on a 40 degree Celsius Day - > despite the heat she was > >amazing, though I'm sure she doesn't remember the > gig very favourably. > > One of her greenhouse tomatoes! Hiya... > That day so wasn't 40 degrees, it was supposed to > be, but it was overcast and > hence must have fallen short. I went this year and > it was friggin 40 degrees > I'm sure of it, the sun was out this time. I saw > Augie March on the same > "greenhouse" > stage as the year before, and wished it was the year > before again and I was > seeing > Beth! All those memories flooded back. Why > wouldn't she remember the gig > favourably? 'Cos someone threw water at her? I'm > sure it wasn't the end > of the > world. Wish she'd tour again, a non-festival tour, > I'd die for that!! > > Now Miss Fellow Adelaidian... > > You said: > >coming from talent starved Adelaide this isn't > that impressive > > I can't believe you'd say that? I live close to the > music scene and in the > past > year I've really got into the local acts... And I > hate it when people say > things > like that. I think the local acts are the most > important, it's our art, > it's our culture.. > and if you don't have a local culture you really > lose something special and > unique. And the Adelaide band scene is in trouble > thanks to council's bylaws > and regulations and inner city development and > yuppies who move into > "happening" areas of the city then whine about the > noise and get everything > shut down, bands aren't even allowed to put posters > up on the streets anymore. > I think there is sooo much unique and special honest > talent in Adelaide and > we're going to lose it if we don't fight for it. > People are so fucking > apathetic. > There are many many Adelaide artists who are worth > seeing.. > In the past year here are a few names: > Masongreystrange, Fiona Beverage, Parlour, Brunatex, > Baterz, The LiftDwellers, > Heather Frahn, Sarah Masters, TommyGun, > Kaleidoscope, J-Ded, > Bergerac, Avon... hmm?? > And every week there are fabulous bands from > interstate who tour through > Adelaide... > And the international bands usually come through as > well... > How can you complain about little old Adelaide re. > Music??? > There's more music than there is punters. Get out > and support it, > DON'T whinge that nothing is happening, it's kinda > counter-productive I rex. > > then you said: > >40' end of rage to see her stuff. Also does anyone > agree that JJJ has > gradually been on the >decline in the past couple of > years? > > Rubbish, rubbish!!! Put it into perspective, it's > the best fucking radio > station on > earth. We are so lucky to have it. The situation > at the ABC is pretty bad, > they are running the entire station on the budget of > one commercial > breakfast show, and the funding is getting worse, > and people complain about > Triple J for some reason. I think that's really not > a good idea, that gives > the message to the politicians that we don't want > it, then they'll just end up > funding it less... My five favourite artists are The > Whitlams, John Butler, > Machine Gun Fellatio, Dave Graney, and Beth Orton. > Triple J introduced > me to all of these and I'm so fucking happy they > did. No other radio station > could have. What about all the other Australian > acts they have supported?? > Powderfinger, Something for Kate, Pollyanna, > George.. umm endless names. > What about Wil Anderson and Adam Spencer, they make > me laugh > every morning. What about the Morning Show? It's > excellent in terms > of radio jounalism and current affairs. What about > Richard Kingsmill on > the Oz Music show and the Sunday evening thing. All > those interviews > with everyone who is wandering around this country > playing music and > releasing NEW music. What about Live at the > wireless? What about > Roy&HG!! I fucking love Roy&HG. What about Artery > on Sunday night > with Fennella Kernebone?? Just because Limp Bizkit > and Blink 182 > happen to be on the play list of the station doesn't > mean the station > is going downhill. It's still the most eclectic and > diverse and brilliant > and IMPORTANT radio station. > So don't bag it!! > > > "i'm riding through this valley, all the way, yeah > on my own, > goin' to learn to say live by myself, gonna learn to > be alone" > John Butler -"inspiration" > Peter Fiebig ~ occy@camtech.net.au ~ ICQ 3596528 > "everything that's good about now, might just > glide right past" > Beth Orton -"central reservation" Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ End of trailer-park-digest V2 #41 *********************************