[Last updated on: Sat Jun 13 16:30:17 1998] *****PLEASE NOTE***** If you are reading this, you do *not* need to subscribe. You are *already* subscribed :) Subscription info for ToriNews, a Tori Amos mailing list, last updated 9 June 1998 **Welcome new subscriber!!** Contents: 1. Welcome 2. Subscriptions *ONLY* [no charge of course ] 3a. List purpose [IMPORTANT! PLEASE READ!] 3b. What to do if you have a problem 3c. Common problems :) 4. Explanation of other Tori lists 5. No digests 6. No archives 7. Important legal stuff 8. Questions, comments, etc. 1. Welcome Welcome to the Tori Amos *news* mailing list, ToriNews [thanks to Steve, ombo@aol.com, for the name] We started operating on 22 January 1996...and took a rather long hiatus for several months [smile] in the summer of 1997 while yours truly went through the "let's remodel a house!" phase of his life. Fortunately this insane project is nearly done, which will give me back parts of my life, including this one :) Many thanks to the fine folk at smoe.org for hosting this list after it lost its original home at Chihuly Studio. Without them, many, many musicians' mailing lists would not exist. As of 9 June 1998 we had 834 subscribers, from twenty-two countries, four continents, and a whole lot of time zones :) ToriNews knows no boundaries, that's for sure. PLEASE SAVE THIS SUBSCRIPTION INFO!! That way, if you want to sub or unsub or want to look up info, you can do so without asking me directly. Thank you for your cooperation :) 2. Subscription Information This list is limited to subscribers only. If you try to post to the mailing list address, torinews@smoe.org, and you are not subscribed, your message will be bounced. So make sure you subscribe *before* you try to post :) If you want to be able to post from more than one address, you will need to subscribe from each of those addresses. Please contact me at stewartj@seanet.com if you have difficulties. *TO SUBSCRIBE*, please e-mail torinews-request@smoe.org with a message body of subscribe. Majordomo will send you a confirmation request, please respond to it promptly, and then you're in! *TO UNSUBSCRIBE*, please e-mail torinews-request@smoe.org with a message body of unsubscribe. Again, Majordomo should send you a confirmation request, please respond promptly, and then you're gone :( *TO POST*, please e-mail torinews@smoe.org and write to your heart's content :) (See #3) 3a. List Purpose The purpose of the list is to disseminate information about Tori Amos...concerts, live appearances, TV/radio gigs, press/articles/etc. Or if you're trying to find someone with tickets to a particular show, or someone who taped something, or have Tori-related rarities to sell or trade, use it for that as well. PLEASE DO *NOT* use this list for discussions of what Tori's music means to you, etc. There is already a mailing list for that (Really Deep Thoughts Right Now) and I'm not trying to compete with that list, which does a great job at what it does best. There is another list, Precious-Things, which also deals with general Tori chatter. I understand that there are different interpretations of "news" about Tori, and I will try to be as understanding as possible. However, *please* respect the intended nature of this list. If you do not, you will be unsubscribed. If you have a question about something you think you want to post, *please* ask me first. Many of our subscribers pay for their e-mail, and are on this list precisely because it doesn't have the chatter that some other Tori lists do. They are also very sensitive to posts here being *news*. Oh yeah...and if you're posting about something related to a particular geographic area, *please* mention the location in your subject line. That way, if you're in New York, people in Australia can just delete your post without reading it if it's about tickets for a NYC show. Think of it as a "netiquette" thing. 3b. If You Have Problems Please let me know! I like to know about bounced mail, delivery problems, etc. If you are having a bad hair day or flunked a big exam or didn't get a raise, I'll listen, too :) If for any reason you get errors while trying to post, please forward them to me, stewartj@seanet.com. If you have a problem with something that happens on this list, *please* e-mail me directly, stewartj@seanet.com, rather than mailing the list. I know tempers can flare very quickly, but in the long term it's easier to let me deal with things than to drag out discussions on the list itself. "Old-timers" here will tell you I usually get problems addressed quite quickly. I would really appreciate it if you can follow this policy. 3c. Common Problems :) Common problems include using words that aren't supposed to be used in message headers including s*bscribe, uns*bscribe, and h*lp. Another common problem is forgetting how to leave the list [see #2 above]. PLEASE don't write ToriNews asking to be uns*bscribed. Follow the directions above. Thanks :) Yet another common problem is overflowing mailboxes. Folks on WebTV, Hotmail, and other Web-based mail services, as well as folks on Juno, are particularly prone to this. ToriNews *can* generate a lot of traffic quickly if things develop, so you need to keep a close eye on your mailbox. If for some reason your mailbox is full for over 48 hours, you will be unsubscribed from the list. 4. Explanation of other Tori Lists As mentioned above, there are other mailing lists related to Tori. Really Deep Thoughts Right Now (RDT(RN)), a more-or-less no-holds-barred discussion of all things Tori, is one; Precious-Things, a list designed to cut out some of the chatter of RDT, is another; and a third, Tori-Boot, is dedicated to fans looking for recordings of Tori's many performances. *Please* avoid cross-posting the exact same message to all these mailing lists; at the very least, think about what you're trying to accomplish before doing so. A lot of people are members of more than one list, and threads tend to develop across the lists that really don't accomplish much. Your cooperation is deeply appreciated by *all* the list owner folks. NOTE: An easy way to get signed up to these lists is to point your Web browser to http://members.aol.com/jlitges/toria.htm [Thanks Joerg!] For more information about RDTRN: E-mail violet@slip.net, and she'll take care of you [waves to Violet] For more information about Precious Things, please contact (For the bounce list): precious-things-request@smoe.org, with the word 'subscribe' in the body of the text. OR For the digest: precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org, with the word 'suscribe' in the body of the text. For more info on Tori-Boot: To subscribe to tori-boot: Send e-mail to majordomo@world.std.com The body of your message should read EXACTLY LIKE THIS: subscribe tori-boot To unsubscribe to tori-boot: Send e-mail to majordomo@world.std.com The body of your message should read EXACTLY LIKE THIS: unsubscribe tori-boot To make postings to the mailing list: Send e-mail to tori-boot@world.std.com 5. No Digests The purpose of ToriNews is to disseminate, in a *very* timely fashion, information about upcoming Tori events and items. A digest-based list is great for intellectual discussions, but not so good for quick updates. Because of this, this list will *not* have a digest mode. Please do not ask to be put on digest mode...it's not possible and wouldn't make sense. Think of this list as a "bounce" list...as messages are posted, they will be distributed. No manual intervention on my part...once you're subscribed, you're in until you unsubscribe...or you are unsubscribed, God forbid. 6. No Archives Due to the timely nature of this list, there's no way to archive this list. That shouldn't matter, as RDTRN digests are stored by some members of that list, and there are several Web sites related to Tori as well. Everyone's favorite seems to be [for good reason] Mikewhy's Dent in the Tori Universe. 7. Important legal stuff The opinions sent to this Tori Amos mailing list are not necessarily those of the list operator, his employer, or his ISPs; nor do they necessarily represent the mailing list members or those who post here. The list operator, smoe.org, and any others involved with the managing of this mailing list shall not be held responsible for any damage resulting from or caused by this mailing list. Subscription and posting to this list are "At your own risk". The list operator reserves the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason. Have a nice day. ;-) 8. Questions, Comments, etc. Send 'em to me direct, stewartj@seanet.com, and I'll be happy to reply when I have time. Please feel free to spread the word about this list! Yours in Tori, John Stewart stewartj@seanet.com