From: owner-the-landing-digest@smoe.org (the-landing-digest) To: the-landing-digest@smoe.org Subject: the-landing-digest V2 #285 Reply-To: the-landing@smoe.org Sender: owner-the-landing-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-the-landing-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk the-landing-digest Friday, December 10 1999 Volume 02 : Number 285 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: SNZ NEWS. [Andrea Gutierrez ] Re: SNZ on Regis and K. Lee [Andrea Gutierrez ] Re: the-landing-digest V2 #277 [Andrea Gutierrez ] Re: Cradle Will Rock [BlowRedBlow@aol.com] BOF show meeting [Dawn Carr ] Re: SNZ on Regis and K. Lee ["Dave Doll" ] Re: SNZ on Regis and K. Lee ["Dave Doll" ] Re: SNZ on Regis and K. Lee [Andy Harman ] Re: SNZ NEWS. [Andy Harman ] Re: the-landing-digest V2 #284 [TwoJoplins@aol.com] re: BOF, reese, uhm.. [Jessica Brandt ] Others' tunes [Bryan Stover ] Re: The Bowl of Fire in Montreal ["rev. bob pigeon" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:46:12 -0800 (PST) From: Andrea Gutierrez Subject: Re: SNZ NEWS. > And I was wondering why they called the > "neo-swing" bands today > swing? Swing music was nothing like what those bands > play. That's what I've been saying all along. I've come close to beating people up over this (OK not really but they got a good talking to...). The worst of them is CPD, yup. There's nothing worse that so-called "neo-swing" bands who bill themselves as such, with the zoot suits and all. Anyway, that's old stuff. It's just the labeling that bothers me. Agreed? *~Andrea~* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:29:23 -0800 (PST) From: Andrea Gutierrez Subject: Re: SNZ on Regis and K. Lee - --- BlowRedBlow@aol.com wrote: > I caught the performance this morning.. My parents had strict instructions to film the performance this morning! My dad even said that it looked like a completely different band. Then I had to explain everything to him... > the band was > there for the whole show > at the house band, they talked about Kat's pregnancy > for a few seconds, then > the band played a jumped up, dixie kinda version of > "I'll Be Home For > Christmas", That was cool. I liked that. She was big for just four months! Healthy baby! > then closed with Winter Weather, but > sponsors cut in on it. And Kat was just about to sing, too! > Chris > was dressed like Santa Claus, and they mentioned > Reese Gray only being 19?? > is that true? I was wondering the same thing... Awfully young! It's cool though. I liked the new addition of the piano. > Anyhow, a little disappointed on the > lack of long performances > but it was cool to see them again. However, I do not > think Tim Smith is as > good as Tom and Ken... he does not have that full > tenor tone that Tom does. Yes, we'll never be satisfied. At least I won't. You can't help but to compare them. Tom & Ken... what can I say? They are THE men. > Oh, well. Life goes on. I guess so. Did anyone else notice that Regis kept saying "from their new Xmas album..."? Great that he knew all the info. OK. I'm just being a bitch now. Time to stop, Drea. *~Andrea~* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:59:28 -0800 (PST) From: Andrea Gutierrez Subject: Re: the-landing-digest V2 #277 > too bad Squirrel Nut Zippers werent much over a > trend. though i heard "Hell" once on a new rock > alternative radio station... Really? The played the hell out of "Hell" (pun intended) out here on KROQ (L.A. alt rock station). I have SNZ's performance on the morning show from last summer on a tape. "Stephen Foster" and "Suits" minus the horns (Tom and Ken and Chris weren't there)-- sounded cool. SNZ's "Santa Claus is Smoking Reefer" was on KROQ's Xmas CD for something like three years. KROQ really seemed to like them, but then again, do we trust the radio? *~Andrea~* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:36:50 EST From: BlowRedBlow@aol.com Subject: Re: Cradle Will Rock In a message dated 12/8/99 8:32:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, rms573@hotmail.com writes: << The weird thing is that down beat magazine and a couple of other sources said Andrew and Paquita de Riverra (sp?) did the score. >> Right, as does his page at Rykodisc. I checked out the soundtrack on Amazon.com, and there is no listing for Candy Shop... I was pretty sure he was going to be playing at various points throughout the movie. - -Mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:53:26 -0500 From: Dawn Carr Subject: BOF show meeting in why-do-I-bother land, I thought I'd ask again if anyone was interested in meeting up at the NJ/NY AndrewBirdcat shows... Looks like I'm riding solo on Friday. I will be the one up front with blue glitter in my hair. C'mon over and shout B'GAK! I'll introduce you to Brenda and Neville... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 06:52:35 PST From: "Dave Doll" Subject: Re: SNZ on Regis and K. Lee >Chris was dressed like Santa Claus, and they mentioned Reese Gray only >being 19?? is that true? I'm not sure, but I think Regis made the 19 comment in reference to Chris being too young to be Santa Claus. The dialogue went something like this. (I'm paraphrasing) Jimbo: "We have Santa Claus on drums" Regis: "He's too young to be Santa. He looks 19. He's the new member of the band." Jimbo: "Oh no. That would be our piano player." Regis: "He looks 14." I thought Kats' comment on her pregnancy was really cute. She said, "Jimbo ran me down and got me." Then Regis called Jimbo a "nutty squirrel". I was really disappointed that we didn't get to hear Kat sing! The band sounded really good. Je was awesome, as always. It's just not the same without Tom and Kenny though. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 07:25:25 PST From: "Dave Doll" Subject: Re: SNZ on Regis and K. Lee I recently received an e-mail from Kenny. I'd asked him how he got that tone for his solo on Toms' song "Can't Sleep". He told me that among other things, (his playing style, etc.) he played Toms' tenor on that song. He explained that this instrument is unusual in that it overloads in a very special way. I'm in no way putting down Toms' playing ( he's great), but i have a feeling that what you refer to as Toms' "full tenor tone" is due in some part to this exceptional instrument. Peace, Dave >However, I do not think Tim Smith is as >good as Tom and Ken... he does not have that full tenor tone that Tom does. >Oh, well. Life goes on. >- -Mike ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 12:30:27 -0500 From: Andy Harman Subject: Re: SNZ on Regis and K. Lee At 07:25 AM 12/9/99 PST, you wrote: > He told me that among other things, (his playing style, etc.) >he played Toms' tenor on that song. He explained that this instrument is >unusual in that it overloads in a very special way. If he's refering to Tom's '51 Super Balanced... well all I can say is that I have played one of these horns... once. Guy wanted $3700 for it, and I still kick myself for not grabbing it. My new Selmer Series III cost about the same and it has a lot of potential but the vintage '51 was nicely "broken in". Andy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 12:44:26 -0500 From: Andy Harman Subject: Re: SNZ NEWS. At 09:46 PM 12/8/99 -0800, you wrote: >That's what I've been saying all along. I've come >close to beating people up over this (OK not really >but they got a good talking to...). The worst of them >is CPD, yup Even Brian Setzer Orcheastra isn't even remotely close to swing. Actually if you want to see they style that Setzer & co. are emulating, check out a little old band from the 50's called "Bill Haley and the Comets". Their sound, if you take away all the extra horns, is nearly identical - from the style of the vocal to the style of the rhythm, the tick-tock beat, etc. Of course Bill Haley is considered the Godfather of rock n' roll so guess what that makes Brian? It also doesn't help that SNZ's only hit single was calypso, and not really an exemplary tune for them. I talked to Tom & Ken about this last year, and it was for this reason that Tom yanked "Trou Macacq" off the program (although I did get to see them do it in the sound test). If SNZ has a true "signature tune", one that both defines and qualifies the band as to what they are, I'd have to pick "Put A Lid On It". It's got Kat's vocals, Ken's bari sax, Tom's guitar and vocals, Duke's trumpet... and an almost neck-breaking backbeat powered by ethereal energy instead of 52 tons of nitroglycerine like Setzer uses. Don't get me wrong, I like BSO - - I like rockabilly, I'd even go see 'em if I had the chance. Ken is even a fan of BSO... but it ain't SNZ. Another genre of music that is all but forgotten and directly related to swing is Rag Time. SNZ is *strongly* influenced by ragtime composers of the 'teens, like Jelly Roll Morton, etc. Ragtime has lots of crossovers too, to Dixieland and even some of the more tame pop music of this century. BTW, for all of you who have SAMSARA... Tom, being a Fats Waller aficianado, wasn't the first to think of using a pipe organ in jazz. My brother has a whole CD of Fats on the pipe organ... it is just awesome stuff. Find, if you can, Fats Waller's "Savannah Blues". I'm not an "oldies snob" by any means, in fact some of the oldies that are idolized (like Ellington) really don't do anything for me. But Waller, Calloway, Armstrong, Don Redman... basically anybody who ever sound-tracked a 1930's Betty Boop cartoon... all cool. Andy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 17:37:04 EST From: TwoJoplins@aol.com Subject: Re: the-landing-digest V2 #284 I might be too sick to see Bird tomorrow. Im not a happy little man. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 17:51:16 -0500 From: Jessica Brandt Subject: re: BOF, reese, uhm.. We all got the info that Andrew was doing "Cradle Will Rock" from the Ryko BOF page. http://www.rykodisc.com/RykoInternal/Features/342/grandeur/info2.htm is says: In other notable news, Andrew is a featured performer on the score + soundtrack to the upcoming Tim Robbins film, "Cradle Will Rock." FEATURED PERFORMER, not writer. However, before i went back and read this, i was under the impression he was arranging too. But I guess we're all dumb :P As for Reese Gray: yup, just 19. When i first saw him, i thought he was 15. He is much cuter in person. He looked bad on TV. My boyfriend's mom is friends with him and said she is "worried" about him and he's been getting thin. I hope he's okay... as for the stolen charts: Did any of us go to the Irving Plaza show? I am sure everyone on this list is a big enough fan to know not to do that. I hope they get their shit back. interestingly, tho....i guess now that the new horns are in the band, they had to finally write that stuff down, eh? But i know that Dave and Tim are good enough players to wing it for a bit until they get it back. Dave is incredible. my take on regis & kathie lee: by god's amazing grace, i was actually up early on weds. and i got the landing and thanks to whoever posted that reminder! I didn't really like the performance...the in and out music was cool, but Regis kept saying "Christmas Caravan" was NEW ...Kat looked funny. she is still beautiful and i know she is preggers, but she looked too stone-faced.i don't like the way she poses. I also don't think the band looks as happy and fun w/o tom and ken :( And "i'm coming home for christmas" wasn't the best version ever. i wish they played "winter weather"... but i 'spose that's not their own song and they want to show off their own stuff, so that's understandable. But "i'm coming home" seems more like a nice song for just guitar-bass-drums. And they couldn't do 'carolina christmas' cuz it's tom...but....yuck. Jess *********************************************************** * --+-READ THE SHRUBBERY-+-- * http://www.theshrubbery.com --New Every Month- -Humor, Music, News and More-- *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 17:31:44 -0600 From: Bryan Stover Subject: Others' tunes At 05:51 PM 12/9/99 -0500, Jess wrote: >And they couldn't do 'carolina christmas' cuz it's tom... True? According to the set list of the Philly show that was posted the other day, they're doing one co-Maxwell song and a Mosher and a couple of co-Moshers. I hope they aren't precluded from playing Tom's stuff. That list again, with authors: Ghost of Stephen Foster Mathus Club Limbo Maxwell/Ensslin Bedlam Ballroom Guess Prince Nez Mathus Keep it Hot ??? (from new album) Danny Diamond Mosher Do It ??? (from new album) Bad Business Man Mosher/Mathus Low Down Man Mathus Stop Drop & Roll ??? (from new album) Bent out of Shape ??? (from new album) Memphis Exorcism Mathus Bed Bugs ??? (from new album) Flight of the Passing Fancy Mosher/Mathus Lover's Lane Mathus Dark Eyes ??? (from new album) ### ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 19:01:08 -0500 From: "rev. bob pigeon" Subject: Re: The Bowl of Fire in Montreal >>that's what i'm saying! i keep looking at every record >>store i go to, even tower in hollywood (they have >>everything) but to no avail. can anyone help us out? >>(we're talkin bout the Quality 6 cd) go to cdnow... or amazon or any other of the tons of on-line stores everybody's doin it... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 18:43:28 PST From: "Ryan Sargent" Subject: Re: SNZ NEWS. >in fact some of the oldies that are idolized (like Ellington) really >don't >do anything for me. But Waller, Calloway, Armstrong, Don >Redman... >basically anybody who ever sound-tracked a 1930's Betty >Boop cartoon... >all cool. AHHH!!!! Ellington is a God!!!! You just need to listen to the right recordings. He wrote more music than any composer that ever lived, more blues's, you name it he played it. And he did do many soundtracks to many cartoons. He also did an album with Louis. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of the-landing-digest V2 #285 *********************************