From: owner-the-landing-digest@smoe.org (the-landing-digest) To: the-landing-digest@smoe.org Subject: the-landing-digest V2 #269 Reply-To: the-landing@smoe.org Sender: owner-the-landing-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-the-landing-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk the-landing-digest Wednesday, November 24 1999 Volume 02 : Number 269 Today's Subjects: ----------------- chat ["Joshua Edwards" ] Re: chat [Daniel F Jarvis ] Re: chat ["David Shreffler" ] Re: chat [Andy Harman ] Re: chat [Andy Harman ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:28:31 PST From: "Joshua Edwards" Subject: chat why is everybody freakin out over all these different chat protcols and what not, I mean I'm not a friggin computer genius or anything but, why don't we just use yahoo messenger or AOL Instant Messenger. Both are free from their respective websites, extremely easy to use, and I pirated the un-released AOL Instant Messenger 3.5 that has voice options, which I would be more than happy to send to anyone who has a microphone. You create your own chat room when you invite people and you don't have to worry about unwanted guests. It seems like the only sensible option to me, but I'm just a graphic designer computer guy, and not really a tech guy. pezboy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 14:45:43 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel F Jarvis Subject: Re: chat Well, I must say, I agree with pezboy. With AOL Instant Messenger, you can also save chat sessions, etc, so transcription would be effort-less! Dan On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Joshua Edwards wrote: > > why is everybody freakin out over all these different chat protcols and what > not, I mean I'm not a friggin computer genius or anything but, why don't we > just use yahoo messenger or AOL Instant Messenger. Both are free from their > respective websites, extremely easy to use, and I pirated the un-released > AOL Instant Messenger 3.5 that has voice options, which I would be more than > happy to send to anyone who has a microphone. You create your own chat room > when you invite people and you don't have to worry about unwanted guests. It > seems like the only sensible option to me, but I'm just a graphic designer > computer guy, and not really a tech guy. > > pezboy > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:50:30 PST From: "David Shreffler" Subject: Re: chat Hey all. About the AOL IM thing. Thats more complicated than IRC. You have to register screen names for everyone on top of downloading the program. You are right it would be easier, if everyone had it and had a screen name. Again, may I propose we use the HTML chat that I have, everyone has a browser, everyone can view a HTML page. No messy protocols, no downloading, just one simple website to go to. So, how about those zipper's? Anyways... David ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 01:14:01 -0500 From: Andy Harman Subject: Re: chat At 11:28 AM 11/23/99 PST, you wrote: > >why is everybody freakin out over all these different chat protcols and what >not, I mean I'm not a friggin computer genius or anything but, why don't we >just use yahoo messenger or AOL Instant Messenger. Both are free from their >respective websites, extremely easy to use, Because what you don't have isn't "easy to use". I'd like you all to try an experiment. You don't need any software, you don't need to download anything, you don't need to install anything, or even learn anything other than this: 1) Go to your START menu if you are in win95 or win98, and click on RUN. 2) Type in the box: telnet hhcustom.hhcustom.com and hit ENTER. You should get a window with a login prompt within a few seconds. Just click the X in the upper right corner to clear the screen... you have passed the test! Let me know how many of you can get that to work; if you can't let me know what system you are using - you should be able to do it on virtually any system with an internet connection but I'm most familiar with Unix and Win9x. If you do, guess what... you can participate in a chat that I can host whenever we want to. The problem with all this high-falutin' stuff is we all have to use somebody else's server and play by their rules and usually they have all kinds of spurious things we don't want. I can write a chat program (with archiving) and be ready next time we want to do this, whether or not we can get Tom or Ken back right away. Transcripting is also automatic. Telnet is the easiest program in the world to use... you read, and type. It's also older than dirt (one reason it works so well??). Absolutely nothing remotely state-of-the-art about it, it is made to do the job. There is nothing to learn about telnet, and in fact it works pretty much like any other chat except that you don't have to install anything - if you're running windows, and you're on the net, you already have it. Not sure about webTV - have never seen one in operation. My guess would be it wouldn't work. If we do this, I'll give a login access for chatting which will work during scheduled chats. Then it will ask for your name so we know who you are. That's about all there is to it! Just an offer, you all can tell me to take a hike. I just don't want to miss another opportunity like we had before. Andy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 01:16:19 -0500 From: Andy Harman Subject: Re: chat At 11:50 AM 11/23/99 PST, you wrote: >Again, may I propose we use the HTML chat that I have, everyone has a >browser, everyone can view a HTML page. No messy protocols, no downloading, >just one simple website to go to. So, how about those zipper's? Anyways... How does this work? What is the url? This would solve the problem of installing and would work for even WebTV users. Would not work for Juno though. Hotmail I'm not sure about - never used it so I dunno if it's a dial-up mail-only ite like Juno or if it's a real service with web access. I doubt if telnet would work with Juno either... *if* your only access is Juno. Andy ------------------------------ End of the-landing-digest V2 #269 *********************************