From: owner-the-landing-digest@smoe.org (the-landing-digest) To: the-landing-digest@smoe.org Subject: the-landing-digest V2 #106 Reply-To: the-landing@smoe.org Sender: owner-the-landing-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-the-landing-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk the-landing-digest Thursday, May 13 1999 Volume 02 : Number 106 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: SNZ on Jeopardy ["Kunkel, Robert G" ] And the correct list archives URL is? [Bryan Stover ] Re: JAZZ [Jessica Brandt ] Re: official page. ["Tyler Adams" ] Re: JAZZ ["Ryan Sargent" ] Re: JAZZ. [kobyc@softhome.net (Peter Destructo!)] Re: JAZZ. ["Matty J." ] Re: JAZZ. ["Tyler Adams" ] Re: JAZZ. [Dragoon716@aol.com] Re: discography [bob pigeon ] Re: discography [nicole blue ] High School Jazz [Andy Harman ] Re: JAZZ [Andy Harman ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 08:21:13 -0400 From: "Kunkel, Robert G" Subject: RE: SNZ on Jeopardy Just for accuracy sake (and cuz I'm bored), I saw the show and none of the contestants knew the answer of SNZ. They all just stood there with dumb looks on their faces (while me and my fiancee yelled at them for being so woefully ignorant). And then Alex Trebek read the answer-question as you mentioned, the audience chuckled, and the contestants continued to look like they hadn't a clue. Get your noses outta those books every now and then people! I woulda cleaned up on that category I tell ya, Rob =) > -----Original Message----- > From: Jessica Brandt [SMTP:jbrandt@kent.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 4:58 AM > To: the-landing@smoe.org > Subject: SNZ on Jeopardy > > A very alert friend of mine, you may know him as FactBoy of Shrubbery > fame, > called me today to tell me that on today's Jeopardy (college champions), > there was a "neo swing" category. > > No one knew any of the answers, except Brian Setzer and maybe RCR > (question: this band is in a name dispute with a cola company). > > SNZ was the answer to one of the questions (or, a question to one of the > answers) which was something like "This North carolina band got it's name > from a chewy peanut candy." The guy answered "Who are > Squirrel...Nut...Zippers?" and the audience had a nice giggle and he got > the points. > > My my, back to that "neo-swing" category again, aren't we? And it's nice > to > see that these genius college students are keeping up with current fads ;) > > Jess > *********************************************************** > * --+-READ THE SHRUBBERY-+-- * > http://www.theshrubbery.com > --New Every Month- -Humor, Music, News and More-- > *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 08:25:56 -0500 From: Bryan Stover Subject: And the correct list archives URL is? Hi friends, I'm new to the list and would like to read the archives to get a sense of what has already been discussed. Attempts to access the archive URL listed in the welcome message for this list resulted in the error message, "Member Page Not Found!" The listed URL is: http://members.xoom.com/ZipperJJ/list.html Would someone please post the correct URL to the list archives? Thanks for your assistance! Cheers, Bryan -+- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:25:21 -0400 From: Dishon Gerald Robert Subject: Jazz & Discography (Discography Duck?) Still no word from SBC. I might get lucky and get it here before the end of the week, but if not, the college will have to forward it to my home, 'coz I'm leaving Saturday for the great Des Moines. The Mammoth site has this posted on their main page next to the SNZ logo: Order any Squirrel Nut Zippers title from the Mammoth Online Store and get a free "Suits Are Picking Up the Bill" remix CD! Has anyone heard this CD? And should it be part of the Discography? Ryan: Unfortunately, not all jazz played in jazz band is "Big Band" style music. A lot of groups will play a good deal of fusion and cool jazz, which is nice sometimes, but sucks when you just want to play swing. (Some of the fusion is actually pretty cool, like Birdland, or Watermelon Man, but some of it is pretty awful; same with the cool jazz. But then there are some crappy transcriptions of swing tunes, like the copy of Moonlight Serenade we played this year, so you learn to grin and bear it.) But being in the group is more than worth it, just so you can play and learn. I love playing jazz, even though I basically suck at it, because you get to be part of the process. Happy playing! (What part will you be playing, by the way?) Gerald ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:20:18 PDT From: "Ryan Sargent" Subject: official page. Ken updated the official page again. With "The Tom Maxwell Experience", and the Zippers on JEOPARDY. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:24:36 -0500 From: Jessica Brandt Subject: Re: JAZZ Hmm...I've been in jazz band since 8th grade (holy cow, 7 years!). We play all sorts of stuff. My college band plays a lot of Basie, and Miles Davis. We did 3 Les Hooper tunes this year, which were pretty out there. I've also played some Glen Miller (usually just for dances, like "In The Mood" and "String of Pearls")...Herbie Hancock, Tower of Power, and those silly classics like "Satin Doll," "My Funny Valentine," "Volga Boatman" (okay that one isn't silly, it's seriously tough), "God Bless the Child," "Imagination," and so on and so forth. I don't think I've ever played any serious Ellington, but I could be wrong. I've been fortunate to be in some really great bands. As a freshman we were playing college-level stuff. It helps when your director is a professional jazz musician (in high school) and my college director is also a professional jazz musician (he plays with the cleveland jazz orchestra.) Just my luck, they are both professional trombone players, which is what i play. So it's tough to be so shitty like me. Luckilly, i have "panache" and have been first chair most of those 7 years But trust me, I suck. Jess *********************************************************** * --+-READ THE SHRUBBERY-+-- * http://www.theshrubbery.com --New Every Month- -Humor, Music, News and More-- *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:38:17 -0700 From: "Tyler Adams" Subject: Re: official page. The title banner has also been updated, and still says "Squirrel NOT Zippers" leading us to believe it wasn't an innocent typo... I wish we could get some kind of comment on this from Ken. He says he reads what people post on the bulletin boards on the "two unofficial pages"...does anybody know wich two he's refering to? T - ----- Original Message ----- From: Ryan Sargent To: Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 10:20 early Subject: official page. > Ken updated the official page again. With "The Tom Maxwell Experience", and > the Zippers on JEOPARDY. > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:42:43 PDT From: "Ryan Sargent" Subject: Re: JAZZ There are some really good Miles tunes, such as "So What" and "Freddie Freeloader". I always wanted to play Dizzy's version of St. Louis Blues (from the timex jazz show with Louis Armstrong). I which I could be in a band like that. One that plays stuff like Brubeck's Take five and Blue Rondo A La Turk, Dizzy's Salt Peanuts, down to Basie big band stuff. Has anybody heard the song Wild Man by Duke Ellington/Count Basie & thier orchestras???? I can't wait to see who Tom's going to tour with (Hey, that could be one of the questions) _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 19:11:38 GMT From: kobyc@softhome.net (Peter Destructo!) Subject: Re: JAZZ. On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:20:35 PDT, you wrote: >I have been playing trumpet for many years now, but have never been >in any kind of school band. My school just got a jazz band though. >What kind of stuff do you play in jazz band???? Every time somebody >mentions jazz band I always think of them playing Ellington...or >stuff like that. It really depends on what the director wants. I've been through four directors for various jazz bands in middle and high school, and each have different emphases -- swing, more modernish jazz [feh], latin, funk, whatever. - -Peter Destructo http://members.xoom.com/pdestructo/sg - The Ghost Quasar Space Ghost reviewed links, icons, fanfic, pictures Call 212-258-7579 and tell Nickelodeon to bring back Pete & Pete reruns! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:20:29 -0400 From: "Matty J." Subject: Re: JAZZ. Am I the only one getting double messages? Matt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:22:32 -0700 From: "Tyler Adams" Subject: Re: JAZZ. Yes. Or at least I'm not. T - ----- Original Message ----- From: Matty J. To: Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 12:20 late Subject: Re: JAZZ. > Am I the only one getting double messages? > > Matt > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:48:10 EDT From: Dragoon716@aol.com Subject: Re: JAZZ. I'm not either ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:08:44 -0700 From: bob pigeon Subject: Re: discography >>there's a carolina xmas single, but maybe it's a promo >>i have a copy and i don't really want it >>anyone want to buy it? email me > >What's on it? 1. carolina xmas 2. holiday id (15 secs) 3. holiday id (30 secs) the holiday ids are weird spoken word things by tom and ken any collectors out there? haha email me ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:03:15 -0700 (PDT) From: nicole blue Subject: Re: discography i don't recognize the bottom two from the cd... how much are you selling it for? nicole - --- bob pigeon wrote: > >>there's a carolina xmas single, but maybe it's a > promo > >>i have a copy and i don't really want it > >>anyone want to buy it? email me > > > >What's on it? > > 1. carolina xmas > 2. holiday id (15 secs) > 3. holiday id (30 secs) > > > the holiday ids are weird spoken word things by tom > and ken > any collectors out there? > haha > email me > > > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 00:06:26 -0400 From: Andy Harman Subject: High School Jazz Back when I was in high school (72-75) I played trombone in the jazz ensemble. We played a variety of stuff from cool to big band and some balls-out rock tunes with more of a Blood Sweat & Tears sound. We usually did at least one "fund raiser" gig per year, usually for a bunch of retirees who wanted to hear big band era stuff. Most of the standards were easy enough to learn at least in the arrangements we had, all the Glenn Miller stuff like "In The Mood", "String of Pearls", etc. We also did a few of Hank Levy's odd-time tunes like "Hank's Opener" (7/4) and "Chiapas", a 5/4 tune at breakneck tempo. We had a DREADFUL "cool jazz" arrangement of "Riverside" which in the three years I sat in jazz band was probably the sorriest piece of crap we ever latched onto. Our director, in my senior year caved in to pressure and did us a huge favor by allowing us to drop that drek (which he called "real jazz") in favor of a rock blaster tune called "PC WALLBANGER" by J. Hill. What a monster tune that was, I've never found a recording of it anywhere and our band recordings are probably gathering dust in someone's closet. It had an opening on par with BST's "Lucretia MacEvil" in terms of sheer excitement and a ripping, Killer-like piano solo from Billy Larkin. I'd love to just get my hands on the sheet music for that one. Coupled with our other numbers, we took first place at the OSU competition in May of '75, the last performance we did as a group. I haven't been in a band since unfortunately. The good news is the bari sax part was even better than the trombone part in "Wallbanger". I'm willing to track the whole thing and play all 5 trombone parts (including bass), all 5 sax parts (2 alto, 2 tenor, bari) but I need a nimble-wristed drummer, 5 trumpets, and Billy on the piano which is likely to cost me.... Opener for the senior variety show was Thad Jones' "Tow Away Zone", a neat little number with an electric piano opening. Then there was the K. Welsh (our beloved director) arrangement of a Quincy Jones / Bill Cosby theme called "Chump Change" which has got to be the best opener since "Ghostbusters". I know Quincy recorded that tune, but I've never been able to find it. Another very popular tune that just wouldn't die was an arrangement we had of "Mercy Mercy Mercy" (old song originally recorded by the Buckinghams). This was the chance for the trumpet section to show off their funk n' screech capability. The popular recording gives you some idea of the trumpet part, but imagine it with 5 bones and 5 trumpets... we even had a "doubletime" take on it where we boosted out of funk tempo up into rock territory. Very cool, and yet so easy to play that when the school started up a junior high jazz band, this was the first tune they played (again by popular demand). Best high school jazz band I ever saw was from Frankfort KY; Franklin County High School at Moorehead College in 1974. Cannonball Adderly was our host and judge. While our band dominated Ohio - trading first place trophies with some pretty fine bands like Amelia and Dayton's Chaminade-Julienne, we got our comeuppance in Kentucky and ended up tied for third thanks to a last minute accoustic bass solo on "Chiapas" by a guy who is now a doctor I think. Cannonball preached the importance of the bass fiddle as a "real jazz" instrument, and Eddie was our ace in the hole - -- we were the only band that had one. Andy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 00:15:07 -0400 From: Andy Harman Subject: Re: JAZZ At 10:42 AM 5/12/99 PDT, you wrote: >(from the timex jazz show with Louis Armstrong). I which I could be in a >band like that. One that plays stuff like Brubeck's Take five and Blue Rondo I bought the sheet music for the alto sax for "Take Five" - actually written by saxophonist Paul Desmond. That's a pretty difficult number even though it's a catchy, fairly simple sounding tune. It's in an odd key for sax and the 5/4 time is strange but has a steady rythm at least. Another pretty durn difficult sax number is Boots Randolph's "Yakkety Sax". It's hard enough just to hit the notes at that speed, much less punch out all the gliss, tonguing and general "mouthpiece talk" he does. I can play the main line of it at about 2/3 tempo but botch the jump from E to high F# 98% of the time. And that's just nailing the F# straight, not leaping up to it in a continuous 1/100th of a second slide - actually a full 10th - the way Boots does it. Zippers stuff OTOH is a bit easier, although I'm still trying to totally NAIL the alto sax lick from HELL. Probably my favorite sax lick in all of Zipperdom is the baritone carrying the melody on "Twilight"... I just love that song, especially when Kenny's solo notes twang right into the banjo. Took me 2 months to learn that riff, it's quite a bit harder than it sounds. Andy ------------------------------ End of the-landing-digest V2 #106 *********************************