From: owner-the-landing-digest@smoe.org (the-landing-digest) To: the-landing-digest@smoe.org Subject: the-landing-digest V2 #88 Reply-To: the-landing@smoe.org Sender: owner-the-landing-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-the-landing-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk the-landing-digest Sunday, April 25 1999 Volume 02 : Number 088 Today's Subjects: ----------------- TOM & KEN. ["Ryan Sargent" ] Re: DUKE. [bob pigeon ] Re: TOM & KEN. ["Matty J." ] Re: TOM & KEN. [Andy Harman ] Re: OLD CONAN. [Andy Harman ] Playing SNZ Licks [Andy Harman ] Re: banner, DC, NPR [Jessica Brandt ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 07:28:22 PDT From: "Ryan Sargent" Subject: TOM & KEN. I know that Tom and Ken were touring with Ben Folds Five. And Ben Folds Five is on Letterman this wednesday...do you think that Tom and Ken will do the horns on that???? _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:26:41 -0700 From: bob pigeon Subject: Re: DUKE. >Did anyone get to see Wynton & orchestra's tribute to Duke >ellington???? speaking of ellington, to anyone in new york city (and surrounding areas?) 89.9 FM, columbia's radio station, is doing a week long festival...216 hours of ellington... it started already goes to may 1st i think - --- "The Kingdom of the heavens is like a treasure hidden in the field, which a man found and hid; and for the joy he has he goes and sells what things he has and buys that field." -- Matthew 13:44 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:54:18 -0400 From: "Matty J." Subject: Re: TOM & KEN. >I know that Tom and Ken were touring with Ben Folds Five. Is that true? I just saw them a week ago and they weren't there. There was a guy who was with the opening act (Flemming & John)(his name was John) who came out and played a 30 second solo on their first song with some weird horn. Also strange, during his actual performance, he had a trombone that had trumpet keys. Also weird, the guy looked remarkedly like Tom, but i know it wasn't him. Somehow I doubt with all that is going on they would be hitting the road... Matt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 00:13:48 -0400 From: Andy Harman Subject: Re: TOM & KEN. At 01:54 PM 4/24/99 -0400, you wrote: >Is that true? I just saw them a week ago and they weren't there. There >was a guy who was with the opening act (Flemming & John)(his name was >John) who came out and played a 30 second solo on their first song with >some weird horn. Also strange, during his actual performance, he had a >trombone that had trumpet keys. The latter is a valve trombone. Has the same sound and projection of a trombone, but the valves allow faster transitions impossible with the slide. Of course you lose the ability to slide from one note to the next. Can you describe the "wierd horn" in a bit more detail? Size? Material? Shape? Type of action (valves, keys, etc). Andy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 00:15:02 -0400 From: Andy Harman Subject: Re: OLD CONAN. At 05:29 PM 4/23/99 PDT, you wrote: >Does anybody have the first SNZ spot on Conan O'brien???? ("lover's >lane") If so, i'm looking to trade. I don't have it but I'd love to get my hands on it. The short video clip of it on the HOT multimedia CD looks really hot... if it's that good it's one of their best TV performances ever. Andy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 00:36:07 -0400 From: Andy Harman Subject: Playing SNZ Licks At 02:42 PM 4/21/99 PDT, you wrote: > >I'm right now memorizing the horns off LEGACY. Does anybody on this >list ever try to play SNZ songs???? (what instrument?) Sure. I started playing sax on account of SNZ. True! First thing I ever learned was the bari solo from "Put a Lid On It". I've pretty much played as many songs as I can find a distinct alto or baritone sax part - "Suits", "Got my Own Thing Now", "Twilight", "Bad Businessman", the alto solo from "Hell", the melody part from "Memphis Exorcism". Back in Cincinnati last Sept. Ken even invited me to blow a few licks on his horn... I declined - I'm still pretty bad now and was worse then :-) I've only been playing sax since Christmas of '97 but it has been a lot of fun to rediscover music. I grew up with music - both parents taught music lessons, dad was a former symphony clarinetist. But since high school I've pretty much just been a listener (and critic). SNZ changed all that. I still play trombone (as I did in high school) but I'm very rusty... most of the effort has been sax - alto, tenor, bari with emphasis on bari. I've also played Tom's bone solo from "Fascinating Thing" (ain't hard, just takes a bit of lip building) and Duke's fabulous trumpet solo from "Got my Own Thing Now" on alto sax (can't get squat out of a trumpet). Basically I practice my various exercises, my playalong CD of songs and blues chord lines for improv (what my teacher is mostly having me work on now) and then end the session with "Play along with Ken". Surely we've got a guitarist out there who has given a whirl to "Pallin' with Al" or "Whing Whang" or "Interlocutor". BTW, I think Ken's Conn bari is still for sale for $1700. I passed on it... maybe someday I'll buy it if it's still around when I have the $$ for that kind of souveneer. Most of the CD's were recording using Chris' brother's old Buescher bari; Ken bought the Conn (70's vintage) for the tour in late 96 sometime, used it for maybe 6-8 months(?) then they got the Selmer endorsement and all the new hardware. I play Selmer alto and tenor (S80 II and III respecitvely, same as Ken & Tom) and a Yanagisawa B990 baritone which blows the current Selmer S80-II bari into the weeds. Ken said it took a bit of adjusting to get used to the Selmer bari, it sounds like a clarinet in the upper register (true) but a good player can make the horn sound his own unique sound. If we get together again I wanted to let him try my Yanagisawa bari, but he might not want to put it down --- then they'd lose the Selmer freebies . Anybody out there tried to chart SNZ tunes? I can chart the licks I know, but that's about it. Full scoring would be cool, but the band isn't going to do it... need to find someone with a good ear and lots of experience charting. In the 20's and 30's guys used to sit in the audience and chart live performances on the fly, they'd have the sheet music on the stands in a week! Andy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 03:51:22 -0500 From: Jessica Brandt Subject: Re: banner, DC, NPR >If you make a banner, I'll put it on my page, but only if there's a >non-animated version. I'm too dumb to do amination. So I was in DC the last 2 days. ugh, what a mess. I know what you're thinking -- No, i'm not in NATO. :P I saw the Ben Folds Five show at American Univ. (w/BBVD, strangely enough). Scotty was bowing down to Ben. DAMN STRAIGHT! Anyway, I was talking to Darren (of BFF) after the show and I brought up the Zippers (i had to break it to them that i like SNZ more than BFF> but it's a small margin.) and Darren said "oh they were in DC just yesterday doing a thing for NPR"....i didn't ask him to elaborate. I don't listen to NPR but i'm sure someone out there does...I emailed the station but who knows what i'll get. keep your ears open. Ryan, I have Andrew on NPR, and so does Dawn. You can trade with her if she wants to, or i will trade (but i am slow). email one of us. Oh, and see, Dawn agrees with me. No rude letters to Squirrel Brand. Let Koby write an inquiry, and then we can shell 'em. Jess *********************************************************** * --+-READ THE SHRUBBERY-+-- * http://www.theshrubbery.prohosting.com --New Every Month- -Humor, Music, News and More-- *********************************************************** ------------------------------ End of the-landing-digest V2 #88 ********************************