From: owner-the-landing-digest@smoe.org (the-landing-digest) To: the-landing-digest@smoe.org Subject: the-landing-digest V2 #29 Reply-To: the-landing@smoe.org Sender: owner-the-landing-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-the-landing-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk the-landing-digest Friday, February 19 1999 Volume 02 : Number 029 Today's Subjects: ----------------- too many posts by jess [Jessica Brandt ] Je or Duke? ["Ryan Sargent" ] Re: Je or Duke? [Abednego83@aol.com] Re: Je or Duke? [Andy Harman ] Swing Time [ProfPlum97@aol.com] Re: Je or Duke? [ProfPlum97@aol.com] Re: Swing Time ["Ryan Sargent" ] Re: Je or Duke? ["Ryan Sargent" ] Re: Swing Time [ProfPlum97@aol.com] Re: Je or Duke? [Andy Harman ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:46:35 -0500 From: Jessica Brandt Subject: too many posts by jess Damn, i didn't realize I sent 3 posts last night. Somebody stop me! :) Mammoth mailed me back about that Stacy Guess album. Here's the scoop: It'll have 2 SNZ songs, as well as tracks by Stacy, Sex Police, Soma, Kismet, Venus Flytrap Girls, and more. Proceeds for the album will go to the Stacy Guess Memorial Fund to benefit a local "rising high school senior" It's out March 23, here's the URL to pre-order it, and i'll remind everyone again when it actually comes out. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000I8J0/theshrubberyezin IN OTHER NEWS: Those crazy, wonderful guys of Cigar Store Indians have been asked to write, sing, and appear in the promo TV video spot with and for the Atlanta Braves. This means some great national exposure for one of the best lil' bands ever to drive a van out of Georgia (next to REM, that is ;) ) This is really great for the band, so everyone keep an eye out for those spots, coming up, of course, with baseball season. The Braves games are inescapable on TNT and TBS, so we'll all get to see them! Especially during the World Series, when the Indians are whomping the damn Braves...hehe Jess *********************************************************** * --+-READ THE SHRUBBERY-+-- * http://www.theshrubbery.prohosting.com --New Every Month- -Humor, Music, News and More-- *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:38:55 PST From: "Ryan Sargent" Subject: Je or Duke? I wanted to know this, but couldn't figure it out. In the little picture booklet that comes with the HOT cd, are the pictures of the trumpet players Je widenhouse or Duke Heitger???? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:59:14 EST From: Abednego83@aol.com Subject: Re: Je or Duke? Everybody - That is DUKE inside the liner notes... JE never actually performed on album with the Zippers until PERRENNIAL FAVORITES. Je - i believe and (somewhat) know to be fact - that he was simply the touring trumpeter (coronetist?!)... That is indeed him in the middle of the book though, with the band live... Je is now officially the trumpet player of SNZ. Don't ask how it happened, but it did. But, my question is - what happened to Don Raleigh (the original bass player)??? I notce that he performed on some PF tracks and the entire HOT album, but what happened? I am just wondering, maybe you guys know, maybe you don't... And I think I got the name right - I may have confused it with the current bass player (that would just be dumb...) - I don't have my CDs nearby so I'm gonna go with that for now... Well, maybe I'm right - hopefully I am... =Jason= making no sense at all tonite... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:42:16 -0500 From: Andy Harman Subject: Re: Je or Duke? At 09:59 PM 2/18/99 EST, you wrote: > >That is DUKE inside the liner notes... JE never actually performed on album >with the Zippers until PERRENNIAL FAVORITES. Je - i believe and (somewhat) >know to be fact - that he was simply the touring trumpeter (coronetist?!)... Duke Heitger apparently was a one-shot deal. At the time HOT was recorded, Je had not yet joined the band and I assume Stacy Guess was unavailable. Jim has some comments on an interview I saw on a web site somewhere talking about Duke... says he basically was hired to do the album, walked in, learned the tunes by osmosis in little or no time and blew some wonderful stuff. I don't know anything else about him. He totally won me over just by hitting one note over and over - those wonderful falls he does at the end of "Got My Own Thing Now". I'd describe Duke as kind of a Bix Biederbecke kind of player... very loose and effortless sound. Je (and Stacy too) have more of a bawdy Harry James kind of sound. I suppose my favorite Stacy solo is on "Found a New Baby" where he plays over the drums reminiscent of Harry James and Gene Krupa in "Sing Sing Sing". Je has some real hair-raising stuff on PF... the opening blast on "Soon" is awesome, and he has some neat little riffs on "Evening at Lafittes" and a wonderful fat juicy sound on "That Fascinating Thing". I suppose if I had to pick a favorite spine-chilling trumpet riff, it would have to be Harry James and Ziggy Ellman right at the opening of "Sing Sing Sing". George Rock, who was Spike Jones' trumpeter for many years, is a terribly neglected and underrated player. He has played some of the most fabulously expressive stuff I've ever heard out of a trumpet... from a sweet, rich tone to spitting and crackling all wonderfully in tune and in time. He has a wonderful solo on "Liebestraume" -- switches from honey to side pipes on a '32 Ford roadster at will. Just an incredible musician, if not for Spike collections would be long forgoten. >did. But, my question is - what happened to Don Raleigh (the original bass >player)??? I notce that he performed on some PF tracks and the entire HOT >album, but what happened? Don Raleigh left the band during the making of PF due to "creative disputes" and not much more has been told. Have no idea what he's up to, even if he's still playing. Andy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:41:01 EST From: ProfPlum97@aol.com Subject: Swing Time Hey Gang, According to my mom, SNZ are the coverstars of Swingtime this quarter. So head on out and find a copy. The reason my mom has this info and not me is because I get my subscription at home and not at school... Anyhow, go BUY it! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:46:54 EST From: ProfPlum97@aol.com Subject: Re: Je or Duke? Hmm..something about creative differences I think. it was on the FAQ on the official site. you might wanna check.. doo-dah, - -Gats ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:56:24 PST From: "Ryan Sargent" Subject: Re: Swing Time What is Swingtime???? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:07:10 PST From: "Ryan Sargent" Subject: Re: Je or Duke? >by hitting one note over and over - those wonderful falls he does at the >end of "Got My Own Thing Now". I love playing those high notes...but have laid off them a little do to some lip/mouth problems i'm having. It's a good thing I like playing really low too, because It loosens the lips (the all mighty buzz!!!!) Yeah, I love duke's solo on "put a lid on it"...the plunger is always fun. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 23:08:19 EST From: ProfPlum97@aol.com Subject: Re: Swing Time A magazine ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 01:42:38 -0500 From: Andy Harman Subject: Re: Je or Duke? At 08:07 PM 2/18/99 PST, you wrote: > >I love playing those high notes...but have laid off them a little do to >some lip/mouth problems i'm having. It's a good thing I like playing >really low too, because It loosens the lips (the all mighty buzz!!!!) >Yeah, I love duke's solo on "put a lid on it"...the plunger is always >fun. The notes aren't really that high though, nothing that would blow the mind of a fairly decent amateur trumpet player. That's why I like SNZ - they don't show off with pushing the limits of the instruments and ear-piercing screeches, just style and flair and that SNZ magic. Even the sax solo in "Hell" doesn't go to altissimo. At least if you play it on the right instrument :-) There's nothing intimidating about Zipper music, it's the first music I've heard in like, forever, that invites me to join in instead of just standing in awe of the impossible riffs. Nothing against impossible riffs either... but I like the sax solos on "Put a Lid on It" which I was able to learn (however badly) within my first couple weeks playing sax, and "Twilight" which took me 6 months of intermittent frustration. Oh yeah, Heitger's trumpet solo on "Got My Own Thing Now" can be played quite nicely on an alto sax. Starts on the middle G. A bit harder to do the falls though, haven't mastered the art of lipping more than a half tone at a time. Andy ------------------------------ End of the-landing-digest V2 #29 ********************************