From: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org (sycophant-digest) To: sycophant-digest@smoe.org Subject: sycophant-digest V5 #116 Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org Sender: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk sycophant-digest Saturday, December 9 2000 Volume 05 : Number 116 Today's Subjects: ----------------- sycophant Lisa Germano Christmas song!!! ["efrain schunior" ] Re: sycophant Lisa Germano Christmas song!!! [Kevyzim@aol.com] Re: sycophant Lisa Germano Christmas song!!! ["Marc Tobolski" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 07:33:05 -0700 From: "efrain schunior" Subject: sycophant Lisa Germano Christmas song!!! hi guys. i just wanted to let everyone know what i found while toodling around napster. a track called "Rudolph had a Bad Day" by Lisa Germano. i don't know if it's just been recorded, or if it's been in hiding for a while, but it comes to us just in time for Christmas. :-) anyhow, what it is is an instrumental version of "Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer" incorporating a lot of different sounds. it's really really cool. so if you get a chance, look around for it... :-)be well eef _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 07:42:01 -0700 From: "efrain schunior" Subject: Re: sycophant Bowie album... welcome to the list!! i hope you enjoy your stay :-) >First, I heard that Lisa Germano quit making records over a year and a half >ago, but when I tried to get information on it recently, I could find no >reference to this. well, there was either a press release or an interview (i can't remember which at the moment), but within she stated that she no longer felt the desire to be a part of the music industry. i think it was the industry that frustrated her, more than actually making records. she did state that she no longer lived for music as she once had and at the time of the interview/press release she felt she had nothing more to contribute. and she didn't want to just make stale records. soooo.... but maybe that's all changed. there is a brand new track called "Starfish" which appears on the Pet Sounds Vol. I CD. i don't think she has a label at the moment, but 4AD i think went under (anyone have any info on this???). she might be working on a new record, she might not. she might just be keeping it to herself which is absolutely fine. >Next, I heard that she is actually contributing to the new Bowie album on >Spin's Web site. Has anyone heard specifics? haha, i think this is news to all of us too! thanks for the information!! eef _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 10:07:27 EST From: Kevyzim@aol.com Subject: Re: sycophant Lisa Germano Christmas song!!! Lisa's "Rudolph..." came from an Indiana radio station (WTTS-FM 92.3) Christmas compliation disc that came out in 1994. It's probably only available in used record stores in Indiana, if at all. The rest of the stuff is kinda intersting too, but Lisa's song is the only reason I keep hold of my copy. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 10:21:08 -0600 From: "Marc Tobolski" Subject: Re: sycophant Lisa Germano Christmas song!!! Yep..that's it. I knew it was from something like that. And you are right, those CD's rarely show up anywhere. Marc - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 9:07 AM Subject: Re: sycophant Lisa Germano Christmas song!!! > Lisa's "Rudolph..." came from an Indiana radio station (WTTS-FM 92.3) > Christmas compliation disc that came out in 1994. It's probably only > available in used record stores in Indiana, if at all. The rest of the stuff > is kinda intersting too, but Lisa's song is the only reason I keep hold of my > copy. > > > > ------- > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > ------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe sycophant > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list > address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before > unsubbing. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Dec 00 07:56:34 -0800 From: Eric Draht Subject: Re: sycophant Lisa Germano Christmas song!!! Agg! i don't have napster, but i *really* want that song. Is there any way you can upload it to your website or send it to me via e-mail? eric >hi guys. i just wanted to let everyone know what i found while toodling >around napster. a track called "Rudolph had a Bad Day" by Lisa Germano. i >don't know if it's just been recorded, or if it's been in hiding for a >while, but it comes to us just in time for Christmas. :-) >anyhow, what it is is an instrumental version of "Rudolph the Red Nosed >Reindeer" incorporating a lot of different sounds. it's really really cool. >so if you get a chance, look around for it... > >:-)be well >eef >__________________________________________________________________________ >___________ >Get more from the Web. 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AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 10:04:13 CST From: "Rob SchiferlJr" Subject: Re: sycophant Lisa Germano Christmas song!!! since where i work banned napster (it eats up so much bandwith) and the cd would be nearly impossible to find, i would greatly appreciate it if you could send the rudolph song to me on mp3. if you can't or choose not to, that is fine, too. i'd be willing to send "the mirror is gone" to you on mp3 if you don't have it already. rob rob@carthage.edu - ---------- Original Text ---------- From: , on 12/8/00 9:21 AM: Lisa's "Rudolph..." came from an Indiana radio station (WTTS-FM 92.3) Christmas compliation disc that came out in 1994. It's probably only available in used record stores in Indiana, if at all. The rest of the stuff is kinda intersting too, but Lisa's song is the only reason I keep hold of my copy. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 23:38:37 +0000 From: R M Seeney Subject: sycophant Re:Sycophant and 4ad Yup, Efrain basically said it all, but 4AD is far from 'going under' they did experience financial difficulties about the time they lost Lisa and have now retracted to being a label under Beggars Banquet from which they were first created, there had also been a virtual complete change of staff but 4AD are very much alive and kicking. 4AD have recently put out some stuff by new people Magnetophone which hasn't gone down too well and a lot of people got a bit moody cos it didn't seem justified to lose someone like Lisa and then put out crud. "What happened t Lisa Germano" crops up on the 4AD message board every now and then and then the debate starts all over...you can see that at 4ad.com As for the statement about why they departed, I for some reason have this on my hard drive which is quite enjoyable to read if you can be bothered..... Rob .......Lisa Germano considers life beyond the music game By Kim Hughes (taken from NOW, April 15-21, 1999, Vol. 18, No. 33) It's sad but true. So steady yourselves, you fiercely devoted followers of Lisa Germano. After recording a handful of absolutely lovely, achingly candid nighttime albums, the Indiana-based singer, songwriter and violinist has decided to quit the music business. Or, more precisely, to quit music. Period. Just like that and without regret. While it would be easy to chalk up her decision up to industry inequities - radio didn't respond to her hushed sonic silhouettes, so she didn't sell enough albums to maintain her hear deal with 4AD - Germano offers a more sanguine view of why she's getting out. She simply doesn't have anything else to say right now. While she admits that could change, for the moment, her current tour opening for, and playing violin with, the Latin Playboys is foreseeably her last. Then it's back to her day job in a Bloomington bookshop until she figures something else out. But don't expect to find a mopey Germano on stage at Lee's Palace on Wednesday. She may be saddened that her records didn't do more business, but she's more resilient than her fragile songs suggest. And more upbeat, too, as she gabs down the line from L.A. "I'm trying to find some other career to follow, but I'm not really coming up with much," she admits with a chuckle. "The truth is, I can't make a living doing music anymore. I don't know what else to do but I *don't* feel like the tortured artist, that if I don't play music I might as well just die. I used to feel that way but I don't anymore. "The world is full of opportunities and the skills I learned as musician can be taken to another job. I just haven't figured out where to take it yet. But I'm open. Right now, I don't have a record deal, I don't have management and I just don't think anyone's interested in what I'm doing musically. "The thing about 4AD is, it's a small label and we all love each other but they don't have the resources to push me. So we decided that, if in the future I decide I make a record at home for free, they'd probably put it out. But they can't put anymore into me because they just don't have it." "And I knew this was coming. I actually thought they'd drop me after Love Circus. But I've always kidded around with the label and told them that when they had to drop me we should all have a party." "I just don't want to feel weird about things. After this last record" - last year's gorgeous Slide - "it was a situation of 4AD can't sell my records and I can't make records they can sell." "So there're no hard feelings. It was just like a divorce, and similar to my own divorce, which both my husband and I wanted. It was no less heart-wrenching but we pulled through and now we're friends." Such stunning pragmation - no, stoicism - is typical of Germano, who's never let anything like commercial considerations stand in the way of making exactly the kind of career moves she felt were right. There can be little doubt that when she stepped out from behind John Mellencamp to write and record on her own, people thought she was nuts for giving up a regular paying gig. And yet now, looking over body of solo work, Germano's talent as a composer and player are obvious. Like that old chestnut "Nobody looks as beautiful as when they're walking out the door," nobody distills the essence of loss and alienation quite like Germano. Listen to commercial radio, though, with its endless, colourless stream of ThirdEyeSmash Box20's and you wonder why music as weird and arresting as Germano's isn't cutting through - perhaps a good question to pose to your fave station's program director. "You know," Germano offers, "I really haven't been listening to music much lately, because everything I hear, I hear 'record company' in it. Or I hear the artist's conversation with the manager or producer in it. I'm having a hard time hearing stuff that I find to be completely genuine." "But I know it's out there, stuff like Sparklehorse and Elliot Smith and Cat Power. But CD's are so expensive, so unless I know I'm going to love something, I can't afford to buy it." "With all my records, I always felt they should be present in the world. But I'm just not writing right now. I'm not focused, and I'll only do it if I feel there's another record that should be present in the world. I never thought my records would make money, so I've never done this for any other reason than that." "And if I write another record at some point, I'll look to any means of putting it out - maybe through the internet. I don't even own a computer and I'm too broke to buy one right now. But eventually I'd like to learn more about it. I think in the long run we're not going to need record labels anymore." "I mean, online, can't you listen to music and read some background about the artists? Going into a record store is just too overwhelming. There's too much choice." "What do we really need record labels for, anyway?" - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ End of sycophant-digest V5 #116 ******************************* ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to sycophant-owner@smoe.org