From: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org (sycophant-digest) To: sycophant-digest@smoe.org Subject: sycophant-digest V5 #53 Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org Sender: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk sycophant-digest Wednesday, April 12 2000 Volume 05 : Number 053 Today's Subjects: ----------------- sycophant Lisa, John, Martin and Christian Marclay ["Christian Boyon" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:22:14 GMT From: "Christian Boyon" Subject: sycophant Lisa, John, Martin and Christian Marclay You wrote exactly what I would like to say about Lisa’s music, and above all her musical arrangements. Some years ago, I wrote some letters to her where I tried to explain that it would be nice to see her at The Knitting Factory or another place in Downtown New York to play with some avant-garde artists there. I talked about John Zorn, even if his saxophone would be to nervous for her, but Dave Douglas could be great, but I said she could be a fine artist to record something for Tzadik, Zorn’s record company. I wrote she is able to improvise or to compose only instrumental music. I was sure it could be good for her to make that kind of music for awhile and disconnected a bit from the pop business. Her music has a strong experimental part in it and I also noticed that when you listen to her music attentively (and with headphones especially) you can hear sounds from everywhere, her music is really multi-layered, so rich. But on the first hearing, you don’t get that : you hear fine songs, rather simple, almost naïve musically, and a bit dry too, nude even, raw why not,… More you listen to them, more you find details. The richness can be almost without limits. A very strange impression. In French we say « une mise en abîme » : there are always something you didn’t hear before. I would like to see her working. I asked her. I’m a bit naïve too. In fact, the sounds you find in her music looks like those from turntablists like Christian Marclay or Martin Tétreault, to mention only them. But I never see any turntablists on her cd booklet, so I think she is using reverse tapes (that’s why I said rather rudely she is the Van Dyke Parks of the reverse tapes) and other devices (analogical synths, distorsions, natural sounds, etc). Christian Marclay is a turntablist veteran, one of the great innovator in music of the last twenty years. He worked a lot with John Zorn, he made solo albums and lately he played on the last Sonic Youth’s record « Goodbye 20th Century », a double cd where the famous band is covering JohnCage, Cornelius Cardew, Steve Reich, etc. A very good record. Martin Tétreault is a bit younger and Canadese (from Québec) and he is one of the most famous turntablists of the moment. A bit eccentric also. His music stands between improvised music and musique concrète. He made some very good records on a record company in Montréal called « Ambiances Magnétiques » : two of them « Dur Noyau Dur » (in English ‘Hard Hard Core’ but it’s not so hard) with guitarist René Lussier and « Ile Bizarre » with samplist Diane Labrosse and electro-percussionist Ikue Mori (Someone who is working a lot with John Zorn) are masterpieces, but pretty dark (« Ile Bizarre » above all). You’re gonna find Lisa very, very lighty. And if you want something hotter, you can try some Fat Cat artists (Fat Cat is a record company too) with the-turntablist-to-check Janek Schafer. I only heard him on a Fat Cat compilation, and that’s quite interesting, but pretty few (one track is few). Sometimes I think it could be less work for Lisa to work with one of them. Although I’m sure she find it nice. I wonder if someday she will try to turntable. Maybe she did it already. I’m sure she’s gonna find it nice too. No, I’m not so sure. Christian p.s.: About my "mainstream information", it will be for another day I'm afraid. But in one sentence. Last summer I went to the Jazz Middelheim Festival in Antwerp. That's a big jazz festival, with great names. John Zorn's Masada was top of the bill and it was hysterical, almost a rock concert, almost Oasis or Radiohead. But beyond that, John Zorn is one of the most essential artists of the end of the 20th century. >From: Ricardo Reis >Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org >To: sycophant@smoe.org >Subject: Re: sycophant the slow sound of cd turning... >Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:26:55 +0100 (WET DST) > > > I'm just getting acquainted with jonh zorn so was interested in >your mainstream affirmation. could you be more specific? i don't know the >other two folks you mentioned, Cristian Marclay and Martin Tetreault. > anyway, the connection with Lisa is, from my point of view, >strong. maybe (i'm not such a "freak" on lisa to know this) not on a >formal basis, like noticiable influence from this guy or that, but the >experimentation i surprise in it's music. i think someone that hasn't >tryed to listen to Lisa's music in a good stereo, not doing anything else >but just listening to it, and finding out a lot of hiden sounds that >escape on a light listening, is loosing a lot of things. this is the >experimentation i'm talking about... but even on a light listening are >things that one can't let to notice (look at "... a psychopath" for >instance, from geek the girl). well, just some thoughts to fill >bandwidth... > > salut, > > Ricardo Reis > >ps: there is no negative connotation to the word "freak" in the way i used >it, up there :). > "NON SERVIAM" > > > > > > >------- >The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ >------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >unsubscribe sycophant > >If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, >they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list >address. 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AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:45:42 MDT From: "efrain schunior" Subject: sycophant found new/old lisa i was shopping, and i came across a band called THE MYSTERIES OF LIFE and the packaging struck me, so i bought it and loandbehold, lisa is singing on the last track... southdowns, i believe is the song (don't have the cd with me now) did anyone know about this????? e ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. 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