From: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org (sycophant-digest) To: sycophant-digest@smoe.org Subject: sycophant-digest V5 #43 Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org Sender: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk sycophant-digest Friday, March 24 2000 Volume 05 : Number 043 Today's Subjects: ----------------- sycophant About "Mellon Collie" ["Christian Boyon" ] Re: sycophant Depression [Pedro Borges ] Re: sycophant About "Mellon Collie" [Pedro Borges ] Re: sycophant Depression [kleinemans ] Re: sycophant Depression ["Christian Boyon" ] Re: sycophant Depression [Pamela Meyer & John Haney ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:15:40 GMT From: "Christian Boyon" Subject: sycophant About "Mellon Collie" Okay, I get the "Mellon Collie" album. I'm gonna read the lyrics without listening to the music, which is too heavy for my stomach. I never read or even listen to the lyrics because of the music. I thought the words would have been as thick as the arrangements, and my ears, even my eyes, are too sensitive to swallow too big notes or words. Anyway I will try. Christian >From: kleinemans >Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org >To: sycophant@smoe.org >Subject: Re: sycophant Depression >Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:45:45 +0100 > >i listen to lisa germano 'cause i'm a depressed nutcase. i rather use the >word sad though. there's sadness in my heart. i don't feel the desire for >treatment though. all my favourite artists are kinda sad. i've found that >listening to them is a good thing for me. for me it seems to be an outlet >for my emotions. i don't know that much about depression though, and i >think there's loads of different kinds of it. i couldn't see why listening >to sad music is bad for anyone though. i don't think you should shove your >shit away. sometimes you just need to let it all get out. i beg all the >pple like tim out here to give mellon collie and the infinite sadness by >the smashing pumpkins a listen. i ignored the pumpkins for years, thinking >that they were just a boring pretentious alternative rock thing but i met >someone on the eels list who forced me to give it a listen and i have to >tell you that as far as lyrics are concerned, mellon collie is the most >stunning thing i have ever heard. you haven't heard anything yet if you >heaven't heard that one. it's a bleedin' shame i have to defend my love for >the pumpkins over and over again (even though their new album is a bit >crap). some pple will never understand. > >kleinemans > > > > > >------- >The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ >------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >unsubscribe sycophant > >If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, >they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list >address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before >unsubbing. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:30:52 +0000 From: Pedro Borges Subject: Re: sycophant Depression > . There are times when I can't listen to her because it's just too close, you know? Well, I usually listen to Lisa when I'm a bit down. But it depends on the mood. I have made different lists of MP3's, copied from my CD's, with different songs of Lisa, according to the Mood: Lisa Sad; Lisa Sorrow; Lisa smooth; Lisa Happy. Therefore, I can play the list I want according to my mood. Of course, "Lisa Happy" is relative. It's a bunch of more enthusiastic songs from her (Baby on a Plane, Energy, etc.). I've been quite happy lately, and that caused me to listen less to Lisa's songs. But when I get down again, I'm sure I'll rush to them again. Lisa is good therapy when you're down. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:45:32 +0000 From: Pedro Borges Subject: Re: sycophant About "Mellon Collie" > Okay, I get the "Mellon Collie" album. I'm gonna read the lyrics without > listening to the music, which is too heavy for my stomach. > I never read or even listen to the lyrics because of the music. I thought > the words would have been as thick as the arrangements, and my ears, even my > eyes, are too sensitive to swallow too big notes or words. > Anyway I will try. Well, we'll be waiting for your opinion afterwards. The music's heavy? Not smooth, like Lisa's? - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:11:46 +0100 From: kleinemans Subject: Re: sycophant Depression >On meeting Germano, the mystery deepens. The elliptical and >melancholic character of her recordings is belied by a sunny and >bewilderingly straightforward presence. As she recounts an >unhappy recent return to jobbing musicianhood with The Smashing >Pumpkins, her good humour seems even more surprising. Having >been assiduously courted by chief Pumpkin Billy Corgan, she >rehearsed with the Chicago glum rockers for a month in London >earlier this year, only to be fired for no reason the day before the >first gig of the tour. "They're just really miserable people", Lisa says >cheerfully. "My friend Kenny Aronoff was playing the drums with >them, too, and I guess the two of us were so positive it was just >too much for them". yeah.. if i where billy i'd rahter mary lisa then fire her. from all the things i've heard about mr corgan i concluded that he is actually a nice guy, but when it comes to his music he's an asshole. wish he had not done that though. but i got used to billy corgans bad sides. he's a bit too serious about his success. it won't stop me from playing his music though. chris, good luck with your try on mellon collie. i still remember me struggling with accepting the loud music bit, but i got over it after a few months and now his music can't be loud enough for me. kleinemans - ----------- a hidden diamond you can not find a secret star that can not shine over to you - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 16:35:02 GMT From: "Christian Boyon" Subject: Re: sycophant Depression You wrote: >i still remember me >struggling with accepting the loud music bit, but i got over it after a few >months and now his music can't be loud enough for me. > Loud music isn't quite the problem for me; I'm a big fan of Barkmarket or Penthouse, but "Mellon Collie" misses the lightness of their incredibly good first album. Christian ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:37:53 -0500 From: Pamela Meyer & John Haney Subject: Re: sycophant Depression Hi All, Well, I need to listen to music like Lisa's when I'm feeling depressed. It never works to put happy music on, it just makes me want to smash something! But I will say that the song 'Singin to the Birds' got me through a very depressing time in my life, and what I really needed at that time was Lisa's song. Listening to Lisa's music when I'm depressed kind of helps me go through the process. As far as working creatively when I'm depressed - sometimes I get lots of creative work done when I'm depressed, because creativity is such major focus that it lets me put my depression 'on the shelf' so to speak, if only temporarily. I like this subject! Pam - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 20:42:21 PST From: "Miss Taci" Subject: sycophant depression topic A good topic because I think anyone who listens to music with any intensity will tell you that it is a remedy for what ails the soul. I love the simple language of Lisa's music, especially at times when the words in my head are not making sense, the ideas are not wording themselves at all. My latest example of this, after deciding that my miserable marriage needed to end, would be listening to "love circus" nonstop in December and concentrating especially on "bruises" because somehow Lisa articulated my feelings when I could not. It is so soothing to hear her voice, whispering with all the clarity in the world, "you are a nothing, but all I can think of is you../the sun could be shinin' but all I can see is the black and blue...". I have always come to her music in times before and still it is here for me, lucid and sincere. taci ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ End of sycophant-digest V5 #43 ****************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to sycophant-owner@smoe.org