From: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org (sycophant-digest) To: sycophant-digest@smoe.org Subject: sycophant-digest V4 #171 Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org Sender: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk sycophant-digest Tuesday, January 4 2000 Volume 04 : Number 171 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: sycophant ld's year-end list ["Stephen M.H. Braitman" ] Re: sycophant-digest V4 #170 [Sean T Barrett ] Re: sycophant-digest V4 #170 [bilbo hicks ] Re: sycophant-digest V4 #170 [bilbo hicks ] Re: sycophant-digest V4 #170 [nevermor@mhonline.net] sycophant questions [Joe_Horne@matrixresources.com] Re: sycophant questions [Pedro Borges ] Re: sycophant questions [Andy Campbell-Howes ] Re: sycophant questions [Chris Clough ] Re: sycophant ld's year-end list [Chris Clough ] Re: sycophant ld's year-end list [Chris Clough ] RE: sycophant questions ["Tobolski, Marc" ] Re: sycophant ld's year-end list [nevermor@mhonline.net] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 07:13:56 -0800 From: "Stephen M.H. Braitman" Subject: Re: sycophant ld's year-end list So, what about "Core of Enchantment" by Giant Sand? >hey ya'll - > >here's a complete version of my year-end list that was sort of mangled in >last week's issue of TIME OUT NEW YORK. they published it as a "best-of" >-- which it wasn't -- and left some stuff out... anyway, if you have any >questions about these mostly obscure things, ask me personally. > >xoxox and happy new year, >LD Beghtol > > > > >LD's Things You Probably Haven;t Heard (Or Haven't Heard Enough Of) >List for 1999 > >1. "ENDING UP" EP by Arco (Dreamy) > Slow, dreamy and intense songs from a fab new British group. > If you like Low or Red House Painters, this is for you. > >2. "SLOW RIOT FOR NEW ZERO KANADA" by Godspeed You Black Emperor! >(Kranky) > Inexplicably perfect soundtrack for plotting world domination > or maybe even your own private apocalypse. Two bass players, cello >and > violin and lots of loops and samples and voice-overs. Creepy, sexy > and sublime. > >3. "A DREAM IN SOUND" by Elf Power (Arena Rock) > Their best album yet, produced by Dave Fridman (Mercury Rev). > Lovely songs full of abstract yearning and surreal passion. > And it's not even twee! > >4. The Clientele (various 7-inch singles) > Hunt these down and buy every copy you can! Gail said it was like > falling in love in the rain, and she's right (of course). Sort of >like > vintage Zombies, but even more exquisitely, painfully beautiful. > >5. "HOPE & ADAMS" by Wheat (SGFR) > Brilliant second album from this Massachusetts quartet. Like the > nice parts of "sister" by Sonic Youth mixed with some My Bloody > Valentine textures and "Pet Sounds" harmonies thrown in for fun. > >6. "CHRISTMAS" EP & "SECRET NAME" by Low (Chair Kicker's Union/Kranky) > Their most satisfying recorded works to date - more pop *and* more >experimental > at the same time. "Starfire" and "Don't Understand" could change -- > or save -- your life. And the "Christmas" ep features the Optigan! > >7. "PEDALS" by The Aluminum Group (Minty Fresh) > More lovely, moving songs about architecture, modern design and the > impossibility of love. Guest vocals from Sally Timms & Edith Frost > make it all even more precious and affecting. Jim O'Rourke produced. > >8. "LOVE & HATE (In the English Countryside)" by Section 25 >(reissue/LTM) > Isn't it really all about "Looking from a Hilltop?" Here's both >mixes, > plus the elusive "Guitar Waltz" and "Slinky." > >9. "SHANTI PROJECT I" (Badman) > Benefit disc featuring rare and/or obscure tracks from Red House > Painters, Low, Hayden and Misc. It is excellent. > >10. "LOVE AT ABSOLUTE ZERO" by My Favorite (Double Agent) > "The Big Takeover" recently called this record by Long Island > modsters "the best record of 1985!" I'm inclined to agree: imagine > an irony-free world were passion and sincerity actually count, and > the working-class ethos isn;t just a marketing gimmic. > DId i mention the farfisas!?!?! > > >honorary mention: > >11. "The Floating World" by Darling (unreleased demos) >12. "Sky Motel" by Kristen Hersh (Four) >13. "Madonna" by ...And you Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead (Merge) > > > > > > > > > > > >------- >The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ >------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >unsubscribe sycophant > >If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, >they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list >address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before >unsubbing. *************************************** Stephen M. H. Braitman AMOROUS MEDIA SERVICES PMB 608 3145 Geary Blvd. San Francisco, CA 94118 415/626-3762 FAX 415/487-0504 braitman@mindspring.com *************************************** - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 10:20:27 -0500 From: Joe Wiencis Subject: sycophant Anyone here on the indiepop list? Did it die? - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 00 10:28:02 -0000 From: ld Subject: Re: sycophant ld's year-end list >So, what about "Core of Enchantment" by Giant Sand? well, they get more press than most of the people i listed, so like "good morning spider" by sparklehorse or "madonna" by ...and you will know them by the trail of dead or the betaband's "3 eps" i didn't include them, since it wasn;t a "best of" list, per se... i was going for more obscure bands and releases, or things that i though had been ignored unduly by the press. ldb - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:10:45 -0500 (EST) From: Sean T Barrett Subject: Re: sycophant-digest V4 #170 So what's the current status of Lisa Germano in the music biz? Everyone here was saying she's done, although we had at least one sighting mentioned. But I just bumped into this site "Turning Into Betty" (which, among other things, appears to run it's OWN LG mailing list), and found the comment: - Rumours about Lisa giving up her music-career began - to go about, but these were dropped in early 1999, when - 4AD announced a forthcoming new album by her. This - album is expected to be released sometime spring 2000. from http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Square/2568/biography.html But no sources are referenced so I dunno who to trust. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 09:09:06 -0800 (PST) From: bilbo hicks Subject: Re: sycophant-digest V4 #170 What is the address for that site 'turning into betty? - --- Sean T Barrett wrote: > So what's the current status of Lisa Germano in the > music biz? Everyone here was saying she's done, > although > we had at least one sighting mentioned. But I just > bumped into > this site "Turning Into Betty" (which, among other > things, > appears to run it's OWN LG mailing list), and found > the comment: > > - Rumours about Lisa giving up her music-career > began > - to go about, but these were dropped in early > 1999, when > - 4AD announced a forthcoming new album by her. > This > - album is expected to be released sometime spring > 2000. > > from > http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Square/2568/biography.html > > But no sources are referenced so I dunno who to > trust. > > > > ------- > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: > http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > ------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe sycophant > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an > infinite number of computers, > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub > messages to the list > address. AOL users please read the instructions six > lines up before > unsubbing. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 09:09:21 -0800 (PST) From: bilbo hicks Subject: Re: sycophant-digest V4 #170 What is the address for that site 'turning into betty? - --- Sean T Barrett wrote: > So what's the current status of Lisa Germano in the > music biz? Everyone here was saying she's done, > although > we had at least one sighting mentioned. But I just > bumped into > this site "Turning Into Betty" (which, among other > things, > appears to run it's OWN LG mailing list), and found > the comment: > > - Rumours about Lisa giving up her music-career > began > - to go about, but these were dropped in early > 1999, when > - 4AD announced a forthcoming new album by her. > This > - album is expected to be released sometime spring > 2000. > > from > http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Square/2568/biography.html > > But no sources are referenced so I dunno who to > trust. > > > > ------- > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: > http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > ------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe sycophant > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an > infinite number of computers, > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub > messages to the list > address. AOL users please read the instructions six > lines up before > unsubbing. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 12:13:39 -0500 From: nevermor@mhonline.net Subject: Re: sycophant-digest V4 #170 bilbo hicks wrote: > What is the address for that site 'turning into betty? > > > http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Square/2568/biography.html > - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:05:15 -0500 From: Joe_Horne@matrixresources.com Subject: sycophant questions This appears on the site...Is any of this true? A daughter? Husband? Texas? Lisa Germano will play her last gig at St. Louis' Diner in New Orleans today. She appeared throughout the summer at four Lilith Fair festivals, and since all this is about to take an end, she has decided to go home to her ranch in Texas with her husband and her two-year old daughter. She will not take a break from the music scene though, and she has stated that she is working on new material for her forthcoming next album. And, do people want to move forward with the tribute thing? - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 18:20:57 +0000 From: Pedro Borges Subject: Re: sycophant questions > This appears on the site...Is any of this true? A daughter? Husband? Texas? As for the stuf I've read, now I am confused. Remember that article and interview about her quitting the business? - - I thought she was divorced. - - I though she lived in LA, and worked in a bookstore. - - I thought she was broke. - - "4AD announced a forthcoming new album by her". How come the 4AD site does not say anything about that? - - 4AD site has a Lisa song called "The Human Game" available. I am at work now, but I'll check it at home. I never heard of such tittle. > And, do people want to move forward with the tribute thing? I guess we all do. We just need the people to re-send the tapes... :| - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 18:38:07 +0000 From: Andy Campbell-Howes Subject: Re: sycophant questions I think it's probably Lisa Gerrard's 'The Human Game', off the 'Duality' album I must agree though, that site is confusing...right down to the (non-existent) lyrics which 'may not be reprinted without my permission' eh? Pedro Borges wrote: > > - 4AD site has a Lisa song called "The Human Game" available. I am at work now, > but I'll check it at home. I never heard of such tittle. > - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 13:27:22 -0500 From: nevermor@mhonline.net Subject: Re: sycophant questions > > > And, do people want to move forward with the tribute thing? > > I guess we all do. We just need the people to re-send the tapes... :| I will resend mine.... Kinda disappointed in Reid.. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 14:09:06 EST From: TRman2323@aol.com Subject: Re: sycophant questions Another inconsistency: It says she was born in 1969, which would make her 31...another article I read (which may have been a few years old) says she was 38. Also, I read elsewhere that she was married in her 20s and didn't get back to doing music until her 30s. It says other things I've never heard anywhere else...I think the writer just made up stuff. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 14:30:54 -0500 From: Jeffrey Pearson Subject: Re: sycophant questions I also take exception to the statement that Slide received poor reviews. I haven't read tons of reviews, but the few I came across were very positive... At 06:38 PM 01/04/2000 +0000, you wrote: >I think it's probably Lisa Gerrard's 'The Human Game', off the 'Duality' album > >I must agree though, that site is confusing...right down to the (non-existent) lyrics >which 'may not be reprinted without my permission' > >eh? > >Pedro Borges wrote: > >> >> - 4AD site has a Lisa song called "The Human Game" available. I am at work now, >> but I'll check it at home. I never heard of such tittle. >> > > > > >------- >The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ >------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >unsubscribe sycophant > >If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, >they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list >address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before >unsubbing. > > - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 12:05:04 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Clough Subject: Re: sycophant questions Well guys, I just got off the phone with Beggars Banquet (which has sort of joined forces with what's left of 4AD) and rumours I can definitely dispel include: 1 - There are no plans for a new Lisa Germano album any time soon, BUT she has not been "officially" dropped so I guess the door is still open there. 2 - The bio mentions Adam Morrow and his 4AD label. 4AD has until very recently been owned by Ivo Watts-Russell and Martin Mills. It is now 100% owned by Martin. 3 - I know that as of a couple of months ago she was still living and working in L.A. because I personally saw her. In person. At the bookstore. Don't know anything about a ranch in Texas... 4 - It's my understanding that Lisa is originally from Bloomington, IN. Not Orange County. I could be wrong but I've seen it in print enought times to believe. So basically I think we can conclude that some or all of the information on this site is fictional. I know that she is still writing because she played a bunch of new stuff at her last show at Largo. So the moral to the story is, that just because it's on the internet that doesn't make it true. - -Chris - --- Pedro Borges wrote: > > This appears on the site...Is any of this true? A > daughter? Husband? Texas? > > As for the stuf I've read, now I am confused. > Remember that article and interview > about her quitting the business? > > - I thought she was divorced. > - I though she lived in LA, and worked in a > bookstore. > - I thought she was broke. > > - "4AD announced a forthcoming new album by her". > How come the 4AD site does not > say anything about that? > - 4AD site has a Lisa song called "The Human Game" > available. I am at work now, > but I'll check it at home. I never heard of such > tittle. > > > And, do people want to move forward with the > tribute thing? > > I guess we all do. We just need the people to > re-send the tapes... :| > > > > > ------- > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: > http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > ------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe sycophant > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an > infinite number of computers, > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub > messages to the list > address. AOL users please read the instructions six > lines up before > unsubbing. > > ===== "Appearances matter. In the question of sanity, you were allowed to pretend. You were supposed to pretend. Everyone pretended. We prove we're sane by pretending to be sane. To fail at the pretense, or not to bother, was the definition of insanity" Robert Charles Wilson "The Harvest" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:40:58 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Clough Subject: Re: sycophant ld's year-end list That Arco band sounds really interesting, where did you hear about them? And BTW, I simply cannot stop listening to the Wheat album. Amazing. So whadda you think happened to Reid? Cold feet? What a crumb. I was afraid something like that would happen. Still, if I had it to do over I'd prolly try to get a song together, recorded and submitted. But I'm sure I still wouldn't have the time... - -Chris - --- ld wrote: > hey ya'll - > > here's a complete version of my year-end list that > was sort of mangled in > last week's issue of TIME OUT NEW YORK. they > published it as a "best-of" > -- which it wasn't -- and left some stuff out... > anyway, if you have any > questions about these mostly obscure things, ask me > personally. > > xoxox and happy new year, > LD Beghtol > > > > > LD's Things You Probably Haven;t Heard (Or Haven't > Heard Enough Of) > List for 1999 > > 1. "ENDING UP" EP by Arco (Dreamy) > Slow, dreamy and intense songs from a fab new > British group. > If you like Low or Red House Painters, this is > for you. > > 2. "SLOW RIOT FOR NEW ZERO KANADA" by Godspeed You > Black Emperor! > (Kranky) > Inexplicably perfect soundtrack for plotting > world domination > or maybe even your own private apocalypse. Two > bass players, cello > and > violin and lots of loops and samples and > voice-overs. Creepy, sexy > and sublime. > > 3. "A DREAM IN SOUND" by Elf Power (Arena Rock) > Their best album yet, produced by Dave Fridman > (Mercury Rev). > Lovely songs full of abstract yearning and > surreal passion. > And it's not even twee! > > 4. The Clientele (various 7-inch singles) > Hunt these down and buy every copy you can! > Gail said it was like > falling in love in the rain, and she's right > (of course). Sort of > like > vintage Zombies, but even more exquisitely, > painfully beautiful. > > 5. "HOPE & ADAMS" by Wheat (SGFR) > Brilliant second album from this Massachusetts > quartet. Like the > nice parts of "sister" by Sonic Youth mixed > with some My Bloody > Valentine textures and "Pet Sounds" harmonies > thrown in for fun. > > 6. "CHRISTMAS" EP & "SECRET NAME" by Low (Chair > Kicker's Union/Kranky) > Their most satisfying recorded works to date - > more pop *and* more > experimental > at the same time. "Starfire" and "Don't > Understand" could change -- > or save -- your life. And the "Christmas" ep > features the Optigan! > > 7. "PEDALS" by The Aluminum Group (Minty Fresh) > More lovely, moving songs about architecture, > modern design and the > impossibility of love. Guest vocals from Sally > Timms & Edith Frost > make it all even more precious and affecting. > Jim O'Rourke produced. > > 8. "LOVE & HATE (In the English Countryside)" by > Section 25 > (reissue/LTM) > Isn't it really all about "Looking from a > Hilltop?" Here's both > mixes, > plus the elusive "Guitar Waltz" and "Slinky." > > 9. "SHANTI PROJECT I" (Badman) > Benefit disc featuring rare and/or obscure > tracks from Red House > Painters, Low, Hayden and Misc. It is > excellent. > > 10. "LOVE AT ABSOLUTE ZERO" by My Favorite (Double > Agent) > "The Big Takeover" recently called this record > by Long Island > modsters "the best record of 1985!" I'm > inclined to agree: imagine > an irony-free world were passion and sincerity > actually count, and > the working-class ethos isn;t just a marketing > gimmic. > DId i mention the farfisas!?!?! > > > honorary mention: > > 11. "The Floating World" by Darling (unreleased > demos) > 12. "Sky Motel" by Kristen Hersh (Four) > 13. "Madonna" by ...And you Will Know Us By The > Trail Of Dead (Merge) > > > > > > > > > > > > ------- > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: > http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > ------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe sycophant > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an > infinite number of computers, > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub > messages to the list > address. AOL users please read the instructions six > lines up before > unsubbing. > > ===== "Appearances matter. In the question of sanity, you were allowed to pretend. You were supposed to pretend. Everyone pretended. We prove we're sane by pretending to be sane. To fail at the pretense, or not to bother, was the definition of insanity" Robert Charles Wilson "The Harvest" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:42:07 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Clough Subject: Re: sycophant ld's year-end list Sorry all. That was supposed to go to LD only. - -Chris - --- ld wrote: > hey ya'll - > > here's a complete version of my year-end list that > was sort of mangled in > last week's issue of TIME OUT NEW YORK. they > published it as a "best-of" > -- which it wasn't -- and left some stuff out... > anyway, if you have any > questions about these mostly obscure things, ask me > personally. > > xoxox and happy new year, > LD Beghtol > > > > > LD's Things You Probably Haven;t Heard (Or Haven't > Heard Enough Of) > List for 1999 > > 1. "ENDING UP" EP by Arco (Dreamy) > Slow, dreamy and intense songs from a fab new > British group. > If you like Low or Red House Painters, this is > for you. > > 2. "SLOW RIOT FOR NEW ZERO KANADA" by Godspeed You > Black Emperor! > (Kranky) > Inexplicably perfect soundtrack for plotting > world domination > or maybe even your own private apocalypse. Two > bass players, cello > and > violin and lots of loops and samples and > voice-overs. Creepy, sexy > and sublime. > > 3. "A DREAM IN SOUND" by Elf Power (Arena Rock) > Their best album yet, produced by Dave Fridman > (Mercury Rev). > Lovely songs full of abstract yearning and > surreal passion. > And it's not even twee! > > 4. The Clientele (various 7-inch singles) > Hunt these down and buy every copy you can! > Gail said it was like > falling in love in the rain, and she's right > (of course). Sort of > like > vintage Zombies, but even more exquisitely, > painfully beautiful. > > 5. "HOPE & ADAMS" by Wheat (SGFR) > Brilliant second album from this Massachusetts > quartet. Like the > nice parts of "sister" by Sonic Youth mixed > with some My Bloody > Valentine textures and "Pet Sounds" harmonies > thrown in for fun. > > 6. "CHRISTMAS" EP & "SECRET NAME" by Low (Chair > Kicker's Union/Kranky) > Their most satisfying recorded works to date - > more pop *and* more > experimental > at the same time. "Starfire" and "Don't > Understand" could change -- > or save -- your life. And the "Christmas" ep > features the Optigan! > > 7. "PEDALS" by The Aluminum Group (Minty Fresh) > More lovely, moving songs about architecture, > modern design and the > impossibility of love. Guest vocals from Sally > Timms & Edith Frost > make it all even more precious and affecting. > Jim O'Rourke produced. > > 8. "LOVE & HATE (In the English Countryside)" by > Section 25 > (reissue/LTM) > Isn't it really all about "Looking from a > Hilltop?" Here's both > mixes, > plus the elusive "Guitar Waltz" and "Slinky." > > 9. "SHANTI PROJECT I" (Badman) > Benefit disc featuring rare and/or obscure > tracks from Red House > Painters, Low, Hayden and Misc. It is > excellent. > > 10. "LOVE AT ABSOLUTE ZERO" by My Favorite (Double > Agent) > "The Big Takeover" recently called this record > by Long Island > modsters "the best record of 1985!" I'm > inclined to agree: imagine > an irony-free world were passion and sincerity > actually count, and > the working-class ethos isn;t just a marketing > gimmic. > DId i mention the farfisas!?!?! > > > honorary mention: > > 11. "The Floating World" by Darling (unreleased > demos) > 12. "Sky Motel" by Kristen Hersh (Four) > 13. "Madonna" by ...And you Will Know Us By The > Trail Of Dead (Merge) > > > > > > > > > > > > ------- > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: > http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > ------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe sycophant > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an > infinite number of computers, > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub > messages to the list > address. AOL users please read the instructions six > lines up before > unsubbing. > > ===== "Appearances matter. In the question of sanity, you were allowed to pretend. You were supposed to pretend. Everyone pretended. We prove we're sane by pretending to be sane. To fail at the pretense, or not to bother, was the definition of insanity" Robert Charles Wilson "The Harvest" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 14:48:27 -0700 From: "Tobolski, Marc" Subject: RE: sycophant questions Lisa was born in '58 and was raised in Mishawaka, IN - -----Original Message----- From: owner-sycophant@smoe.org [mailto:owner-sycophant@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Chris Clough Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 1:05 PM To: sycophant@smoe.org Subject: Re: sycophant questions Well guys, I just got off the phone with Beggars Banquet (which has sort of joined forces with what's left of 4AD) and rumours I can definitely dispel include: 1 - There are no plans for a new Lisa Germano album any time soon, BUT she has not been "officially" dropped so I guess the door is still open there. 2 - The bio mentions Adam Morrow and his 4AD label. 4AD has until very recently been owned by Ivo Watts-Russell and Martin Mills. It is now 100% owned by Martin. 3 - I know that as of a couple of months ago she was still living and working in L.A. because I personally saw her. In person. At the bookstore. Don't know anything about a ranch in Texas... 4 - It's my understanding that Lisa is originally from Bloomington, IN. Not Orange County. I could be wrong but I've seen it in print enought times to believe. So basically I think we can conclude that some or all of the information on this site is fictional. I know that she is still writing because she played a bunch of new stuff at her last show at Largo. So the moral to the story is, that just because it's on the internet that doesn't make it true. - -Chris - --- Pedro Borges wrote: > > This appears on the site...Is any of this true? A > daughter? Husband? Texas? > > As for the stuf I've read, now I am confused. > Remember that article and interview > about her quitting the business? > > - I thought she was divorced. > - I though she lived in LA, and worked in a > bookstore. > - I thought she was broke. > > - "4AD announced a forthcoming new album by her". > How come the 4AD site does not > say anything about that? > - 4AD site has a Lisa song called "The Human Game" > available. I am at work now, > but I'll check it at home. I never heard of such > tittle. > > > And, do people want to move forward with the > tribute thing? > > I guess we all do. We just need the people to > re-send the tapes... :| > > > > > ------- > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: > http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > ------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe sycophant > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an > infinite number of computers, > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub > messages to the list > address. AOL users please read the instructions six > lines up before > unsubbing. > > ===== "Appearances matter. In the question of sanity, you were allowed to pretend. You were supposed to pretend. Everyone pretended. We prove we're sane by pretending to be sane. To fail at the pretense, or not to bother, was the definition of insanity" Robert Charles Wilson "The Harvest" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 16:43:05 -0500 From: nevermor@mhonline.net Subject: Re: sycophant ld's year-end list sure whatever Chris Clough wrote: > Sorry all. That was supposed to go to LD only. > -Chris > > --- ld wrote: > > hey ya'll - > > > > here's a complete version of my year-end list that > > was sort of mangled in > > last week's issue of TIME OUT NEW YORK. they > > published it as a "best-of" > > -- which it wasn't -- and left some stuff out... > > anyway, if you have any > > questions about these mostly obscure things, ask me > > personally. > > > > xoxox and happy new year, > > LD Beghtol > > > > > > > > > > LD's Things You Probably Haven;t Heard (Or Haven't > > Heard Enough Of) > > List for 1999 > > > > 1. "ENDING UP" EP by Arco (Dreamy) > > Slow, dreamy and intense songs from a fab new > > British group. > > If you like Low or Red House Painters, this is > > for you. > > > > 2. "SLOW RIOT FOR NEW ZERO KANADA" by Godspeed You > > Black Emperor! > > (Kranky) > > Inexplicably perfect soundtrack for plotting > > world domination > > or maybe even your own private apocalypse. Two > > bass players, cello > > and > > violin and lots of loops and samples and > > voice-overs. Creepy, sexy > > and sublime. > > > > 3. "A DREAM IN SOUND" by Elf Power (Arena Rock) > > Their best album yet, produced by Dave Fridman > > (Mercury Rev). > > Lovely songs full of abstract yearning and > > surreal passion. > > And it's not even twee! > > > > 4. The Clientele (various 7-inch singles) > > Hunt these down and buy every copy you can! > > Gail said it was like > > falling in love in the rain, and she's right > > (of course). Sort of > > like > > vintage Zombies, but even more exquisitely, > > painfully beautiful. > > > > 5. "HOPE & ADAMS" by Wheat (SGFR) > > Brilliant second album from this Massachusetts > > quartet. Like the > > nice parts of "sister" by Sonic Youth mixed > > with some My Bloody > > Valentine textures and "Pet Sounds" harmonies > > thrown in for fun. > > > > 6. "CHRISTMAS" EP & "SECRET NAME" by Low (Chair > > Kicker's Union/Kranky) > > Their most satisfying recorded works to date - > > more pop *and* more > > experimental > > at the same time. "Starfire" and "Don't > > Understand" could change -- > > or save -- your life. And the "Christmas" ep > > features the Optigan! > > > > 7. "PEDALS" by The Aluminum Group (Minty Fresh) > > More lovely, moving songs about architecture, > > modern design and the > > impossibility of love. Guest vocals from Sally > > Timms & Edith Frost > > make it all even more precious and affecting. > > Jim O'Rourke produced. > > > > 8. "LOVE & HATE (In the English Countryside)" by > > Section 25 > > (reissue/LTM) > > Isn't it really all about "Looking from a > > Hilltop?" Here's both > > mixes, > > plus the elusive "Guitar Waltz" and "Slinky." > > > > 9. "SHANTI PROJECT I" (Badman) > > Benefit disc featuring rare and/or obscure > > tracks from Red House > > Painters, Low, Hayden and Misc. It is > > excellent. > > > > 10. "LOVE AT ABSOLUTE ZERO" by My Favorite (Double > > Agent) > > "The Big Takeover" recently called this record > > by Long Island > > modsters "the best record of 1985!" I'm > > inclined to agree: imagine > > an irony-free world were passion and sincerity > > actually count, and > > the working-class ethos isn;t just a marketing > > gimmic. > > DId i mention the farfisas!?!?! > > > > > > honorary mention: > > > > 11. "The Floating World" by Darling (unreleased > > demos) > > 12. "Sky Motel" by Kristen Hersh (Four) > > 13. "Madonna" by ...And you Will Know Us By The > > Trail Of Dead (Merge) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------- > > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: > > http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > > ------- > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > > unsubscribe sycophant > > > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an > > infinite number of computers, > > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub > > messages to the list > > address. AOL users please read the instructions six > > lines up before > > unsubbing. > > > > > > ===== > "Appearances matter. In the question of sanity, you were allowed to pretend. You were supposed to pretend. Everyone pretended. We prove we're sane by pretending to be sane. To fail at the pretense, or not to bother, was the definition of insanity" > Robert Charles Wilson > "The Harvest" > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! 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