From: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org (sycophant-digest) To: sycophant-digest@smoe.org Subject: sycophant-digest V4 #92 Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org Sender: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk sycophant-digest Friday, July 16 1999 Volume 04 : Number 092 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: sycophant Re: format of recording [K/M Mybeck ] sycophant more ebay [Chesty LaRue ] sycophant ...a psycopath [Chesty LaRue ] Re: sycophant Re: format of recording [Tricia Holtz & Darrell Whitbeck ] Re: sycophant ...a psycopath [Famous Goodbye King ] Re: sycophant Re: format of recording [Famous Goodbye King ] Re: sycophant My sleeve :o) [Andy Campbell-Howes ["verite truth" ] sycophant printing cost/where is this going ["verite truth" [Famous Goodbye King ] Re: sycophant printing cost/where is this going [Famous Goodbye King Subject: Re: sycophant Re: format of recording Here here. - ---------- > From: Herr Meils > To: Lisa Germano Mailinglist > Subject: Re: sycophant Re: format of recording > Date: Thursday, July 15, 1999 2:41 AM > > Hi, > > I have another suggestion, Chris (or anyone), do you have the possibility to > burn CD from DAT? If so all DAT tapes should be send to you. You convert > them to CDR's and send them to Reid and there would be no problem anymore. > And I think everyone has made different experiences with > recording/converting/whatever and has a different taste, so the only advice > I would like to give is, do what you want and try to give your best. And > please let's not begin to argue about different recording-philosophies. I > think everybody who makes music has a different one and reality shows, that > many of them are working... sometimes... ;o) > > What I'm trying to say is, if you're convinced that analog tape is the best > medium to across what you want to express do it, if you like it clean and > digital do the same. BTW sometimes recordings that really sound super LO-FI > are made on fully digital harddiskrecording systems, which are about like > $50,000. > > > So never trust anyone ;o) > > Cheers, Pablo > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Famous Goodbye King > An: sycophant@smoe.org > Datum: Donnerstag, 15. Juli 1999 06:52 > Betreff: Re: sycophant Re: format of recording > > > >> I'm sorry, I just can't let this go. I DID NOT SAY I THOUGHT ANALOG > >> TAPES SHOULD BE RULED OUT. What I said first was that they sound crappy > >> when transfered to CD. If anyone's ever done this I think they will > > > >I don't think you realize how good analog tape can sound. > >I don't think you realize how clean and cd quality and soft/warm it can be. > >I think you'd be amazed how much good stuff is recorded to this day on tape > >and not dat. > > > >> possibility, I understand that, that's fine. But if someone is really > >> thinking about dropping (at least) $1200 bucks on this, it needs to be > >> more than a boom box condenser mic recording with the phone ringing in > > > >duh. > > > >> the background. And by the way, you can't just record and release > >> copyrighted material for profit on a whim. People go to jail for that. > >> It's called bootlegging and it's illegal. At the very least we need the > >> publisher's and the repertoire owner's consent. I apologise sincerely > > > >who are you accusing of doing this? > >i've said repeatedly that since i'm leading this i intend to > >do it right, and have legal counsil to make sure i do. this > >pisses me off because nobody has ever stated that they are trying > >to bootleg or record and release this stuff without going thru > >the proper channels! > > > >> if I sound like a crank. I love Lisa's music and I fully support this > >> project, but I feel like I'm watching what started out as a freindly > >> little "get together" turn into what could be a huge debacle. And I > >> don't want that. > > > >i'm starting to feel like you sound like a crank. > >i'm wondering if you are causing drama where there is none. > >i feel that you are creating crisis under the name of so called advice. > >i certainly hope it's not the case. > > > >'nuff said, i think this topic is dead, let's move on to > >the positive things, the creative process, and moving forward. > > > >sincerely, > >reid > > > >ps. chris, if you feel you need to reply, let's take it offlist. thanks. > > > > > > > >------- > >The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > >------- > >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > >unsubscribe sycophant > > > >If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, > >they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list > >address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before > >unsubbing. > > > > > > > > > > ------- > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > ------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe sycophant > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list > address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before > unsubbing. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:15:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Chesty LaRue Subject: sycophant more ebay Yes, I know, I'm addicted. But there are two Geek the Girl posters up for sale. It's a really great poster, so at least look at it. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130899880 Does anyone know what a Umat video tape is? Emily I'll keep it short and sweet. Family, religion, friendship: these are the three demons you must slay if you wish to succeed in business. When opportunity knocks, you don't want to be driving to the maternity hospital or sitting in some phony baloney church. Or synagogue. Questions? -Monty Burns - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:30:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Chesty LaRue Subject: sycophant ...a psycopath And speaking of Geek the Girl, "...a psycopath" is the most disturbing song I have ever heard. Her voice is so deadpan and then the 911 call in the background...frightening. But I still love it. Geek the Girl is my favorite because it's so emotional and real. Someone picked Cancer of Everything to cover, right? Now there's a catchy tune. Is that call in ...a psychopath real? Emily I'll keep it short and sweet. Family, religion, friendship: these are the three demons you must slay if you wish to succeed in business. When opportunity knocks, you don't want to be driving to the maternity hospital or sitting in some phony baloney church. Or synagogue. Questions? -Monty Burns - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:13:22 -0400 From: Tricia Holtz & Darrell Whitbeck Subject: Re: sycophant Re: format of recording I have to agree with Reid. Some of most of my favorite music has been recorded anolog and it is fine. Most of the classic rock of the 60s & 70s was recorded this way and when it was transfered to cd it sounded just fine. When I have recorded my bands music on anolog and dupped it to cd you can't tell the difference. Famous Goodbye King wrote: > I don't think you realize how good analog tape can sound. > I don't think you realize how clean and cd quality and soft/warm it can be. > I think you'd be amazed how much good stuff is recorded to this day on tape > and not dat. > > > > if I sound like a crank. I love Lisa's music and I fully support this > > project, but I feel like I'm watching what started out as a freindly > > little "get together" turn into what could be a huge debacle. And I > > don't want that. > > i'm starting to feel like you sound like a crank. > i'm wondering if you are causing drama where there is none. > i feel that you are creating crisis under the name of so called advice. > i certainly hope it's not the case. > > 'nuff said, i think this topic is dead, let's move on to > the positive things, the creative process, and moving forward. > > sincerely, > reid > > ps. chris, if you feel you need to reply, let's take it offlist. thanks. > > ------- > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > ------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe sycophant > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list > address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before > unsubbing. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:52:51 EDT From: StelthBear@aol.com Subject: Re: sycophant ...a psycopath >Is that call in ...a psychopath real? Yes, it is. According to an interview with Lisa I read, the tape comes from a cable access show a friend of hers in IN did. She also said that the cops were not able to get to the house in time and the woman was indeed attacked that night. If I can find that interview (I saw it on the net somewhere), I'll post the link. - -- Tim - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 18:16:55 CEST From: "Thomas Espe" Subject: Re: sycophant ...a psycopath I have to agree with you there. "Geek.." was the first record I heard by Lisa. It's just so great. ThE [:-)< >From: Chesty LaRue >Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org >To: Sycophant >Subject: sycophant ...a psycopath >Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:30:25 -0400 (EDT) > > >And speaking of Geek the Girl, "...a psycopath" is the most disturbing >song I have ever heard. Her voice is so deadpan and then the 911 call in >the background...frightening. But I still love it. Geek the Girl is my >favorite because it's so emotional and real. Someone picked Cancer of >Everything to cover, right? Now there's a catchy tune. >Is that call in ...a psychopath real? > >Emily > >I'll keep it short and sweet. Family, religion, friendship: these are the >three demons you must slay if you wish to succeed in business. When >opportunity knocks, you don't want to be driving to the maternity hospital >or sitting in some phony baloney church. Or synagogue. Questions? > > -Monty Burns > > > > >------- >The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ >------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >unsubscribe sycophant > >If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, >they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list >address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before >unsubbing. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:18:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Famous Goodbye King Subject: Re: sycophant ...a psycopath > the background...frightening. But I still love it. Geek the Girl is my > favorite because it's so emotional and real. Someone picked Cancer of geek was my first... found it in a used bin in a seattle record store. and it was signed. after i got geek it took me forever to get anything else cuz to me geek was so perfect i doubted any other albums could match weird huh > Everything to cover, right? Now there's a catchy tune. > Is that call in ...a psychopath real? very spooky. also check out Biegg Cittie Arkestraugh's "Karawane" on The Arbitrary Nature of Meaning or Barry Adamson's "It's Business as Usual" (i think) on Oedipus Schmoedipus equally spooky. reid who yes indeed collects spooky songs for some reason - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:24:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Famous Goodbye King Subject: Re: sycophant Re: format of recording for all of you who missed it stian's artwork is now at: http://www.apocalypse.org/~friday/psz/germano/stiansandberg1.jpg http://www.apocalypse.org/~friday/psz/germano/stiansandberg2.jpg kewl... i'll grab the other submissions and put them there so we have a central repository. reid - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:25:24 -0700 From: "Tobolski, Marc" Subject: sycophant SF residents (no LG content) Some on the list are in the Bay Area. Can you email me privately? Thanks! - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 12:45:30 -0500 From: Kathryn Case Subject: Re: sycophant Re: format of recording Stian, I like both your pieces, but I can't see how they go together. If you use the flame one, it would be cool to repeat the flame motif on the disk. Did you intend to leave out the space between "A" and "TRIBUTE?" On the other one, you should make the "n" in "sycophant" more legible. It might be difficult to read, especially for people who have never heard or seen the word "sycophant." I look forward to buying this CD at my local music store: ~Kathryn At 01:24 PM 7/15/99 -0400, Famous Goodbye King wrote: >for all of you who missed it >stian's artwork is now at: >http://www.apocalypse.org/~friday/psz/germano/stiansandberg1.jpg >http://www.apocalypse.org/~friday/psz/germano/stiansandberg2.jpg > - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 12:45:30 -0500 From: Kathryn Case Subject: Re: sycophant Re: format of recording Stian, I like both your pieces, but I can't see how they go together. If you use the flame one, it would be cool to repeat the flame motif on the disk. Did you intend to leave out the space between "A" and "TRIBUTE?" On the other one, you should make the "n" in "sycophant" more legible. It might be difficult to read, especially for people who have never heard or seen the word "sycophant." I look forward to buying this CD at my local music store: ~Kathryn At 01:24 PM 7/15/99 -0400, Famous Goodbye King wrote: >for all of you who missed it >stian's artwork is now at: >http://www.apocalypse.org/~friday/psz/germano/stiansandberg1.jpg >http://www.apocalypse.org/~friday/psz/germano/stiansandberg2.jpg > - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 18:06:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Clough Subject: Re: sycophant Re: format of recording - --- Herr Meils wrote: > Hi, > > I have another suggestion, Chris (or anyone), do you > have the possibility to > burn CD from DAT? If so all DAT tapes should be send > to you. You convert > them to CDR's and send them to Reid and there would > be no problem anymore. Sadly, I do not have a CD burner. I was going to have a friend master my track and put it on a CD-R but I've lost interest in that. I'm just going to send a cassette tape like everyone else. > And I think everyone has made different experiences > with > recording/converting/whatever and has a different > taste, so the only advice > I would like to give is, do what you want and try to > give your best. And > please let's not begin to argue about different > recording-philosophies. I > think everybody who makes music has a different one > and reality shows, that > many of them are working... sometimes... ;o) I would just like to state for the record that there's no better recording format (to my ears) than properly saturated 2" analog tape. But I don't have access to that kind of gear so I wanted to record digitally. I probably still will. I'm not "against" any recording format, I just want this project to sound a good as possible. Digital seemed like the most cost effective path FOR ME. I'm more than through trying to give anyone recording advice. > What I'm trying to say is, if you're convinced that > analog tape is the best > medium to across what you want to express do it, if > you like it clean and > digital do the same. BTW sometimes recordings that > really sound super LO-FI > are made on fully digital harddiskrecording systems, > which are about like > $50,000. Please, by all means, everyone do whatever they want. Record it on your answering machine. Someone said we should move on and I fully agree. Let's just record these things and send them... where? - -Chris > > So never trust anyone ;o) > > Cheers, Pablo > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Famous Goodbye King > An: sycophant@smoe.org > Datum: Donnerstag, 15. Juli 1999 06:52 > Betreff: Re: sycophant Re: format of recording > > > >> I'm sorry, I just can't let this go. I DID NOT > SAY I THOUGHT ANALOG > >> TAPES SHOULD BE RULED OUT. What I said first was > that they sound crappy > >> when transfered to CD. If anyone's ever done this > I think they will > > > >I don't think you realize how good analog tape can > sound. > >I don't think you realize how clean and cd quality > and soft/warm it can be. > >I think you'd be amazed how much good stuff is > recorded to this day on tape > >and not dat. > > > >> possibility, I understand that, that's fine. But > if someone is really > >> thinking about dropping (at least) $1200 bucks on > this, it needs to be > >> more than a boom box condenser mic recording with > the phone ringing in > > > >duh. > > > >> the background. And by the way, you can't just > record and release > >> copyrighted material for profit on a whim. People > go to jail for that. > >> It's called bootlegging and it's illegal. At the > very least we need the > >> publisher's and the repertoire owner's consent. I > apologise sincerely > > > >who are you accusing of doing this? > >i've said repeatedly that since i'm leading this i > intend to > >do it right, and have legal counsil to make sure i > do. this > >pisses me off because nobody has ever stated that > they are trying > >to bootleg or record and release this stuff without > going thru > >the proper channels! > > > >> if I sound like a crank. I love Lisa's music and > I fully support this > >> project, but I feel like I'm watching what > started out as a freindly > >> little "get together" turn into what could be a > huge debacle. And I > >> don't want that. > > > >i'm starting to feel like you sound like a crank. > >i'm wondering if you are causing drama where there > is none. > >i feel that you are creating crisis under the name > of so called advice. > >i certainly hope it's not the case. > > > >'nuff said, i think this topic is dead, let's move > on to > >the positive things, the creative process, and > moving forward. > > > >sincerely, > >reid > > > >ps. chris, if you feel you need to reply, let's > take it offlist. thanks. > > > > > > > >------- > >The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: > http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > >------- > >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > >unsubscribe sycophant > > > >If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an > infinite number of computers, > >they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub > messages to the list > >address. 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AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:38:05 +0100 From: Andy Campbell-Howes Subject: Re: sycophant My sleeve :o) hurrah...I finally got to see it (thanks Reid) it's really really good, I like the reverse best...what font is that for the tracklisting? :o) Andy Stian Sandberg wrote: > It links automatically! > > Wow! > > -S > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------- > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > ------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe sycophant > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list > address. 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AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:54:14 PDT From: "verite truth" Subject: sycophant photoshop well, to answer your q seriously [even though it was a joke] to put text w/ photos, and for it to look right in print, you have to use adobe illustrator/ corel draw etc... *and* quite often photoshop takes longer than the alternative... *and* it's much more difficult to actually *draw* on photoshop than the simplest of ms-dos programs >From: Famous Goodbye King >Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org >To: sycophant@smoe.org >Subject: Re: sycophant Re: andrew's art >Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 03:52:52 -0400 (EDT) > > > i think that looks great too, andrew. > > what packages do you use? > >is there actually something besides photoshop? > > >i'm being naughty, i'll stop :^> >reid > > > >------- >The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ >------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >unsubscribe sycophant > >If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, >they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list >address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before >unsubbing. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 18:16:20 PDT From: "verite truth" Subject: sycophant printing cost/where is this going printing isn't that expensive... you can get really nice stuff from your own computer, for God's sake it's really only a matter of volume. which leads me on to my next question. Are most people looking at this as a commercial project, ie - something that we could make a profit out of, or at least break even? or do people think of it, like me, as a fun thing to do, we would each have a copy of the cd, maybe a few to give to people we know who we think should listen to lisa, *and* most importantly, we should give Lisa a copy to show her how she is appreciated. >From: Famous Goodbye King >Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org >To: sycophant@smoe.org >Subject: Re: sycophant My sleeve :o) >Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:39:11 -0400 (EDT) > > > I can't believe how good your work is. Do you do this for a living? But > > while we're on the topic, how are the covers going to be made? Does > > someone have a sugar daddy who's going to pay for printing? Having > > recently priced these thing out for my band, I can tell you it's not > > cheap. Not trying to be a party pooper, just trying to be practical. > >that's why i want to keep it to a 2 panel shot. >sorry guyz but it's expensive and every page you >add doubles the price. > >i hope to get the best submissions printed. >we'll see as things draw near, >reid > > > >------- >The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ >------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >unsubscribe sycophant > >If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, >they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list >address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before >unsubbing. > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:01:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Famous Goodbye King Subject: Re: sycophant photoshop you are correct, art creation isn't the fortee of photoshop and yes, illustrator is a way to go (and the one i use) but putting images, eps text, color tweeking, and all that there is nothing but photoshop. IMHO. (I think you agree :^) > well, to answer your q seriously [even though it was a joke] > to put text w/ photos, and for it to look right in print, you have to use > adobe illustrator/ corel draw etc... > > *and* quite often photoshop takes longer than the alternative... > *and* it's much more difficult to actually *draw* on photoshop than the > simplest of ms-dos programs oh yes, illustrator is vector art/not rastered. that's why files and speed are smaller and faster respectively. reid - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:03:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Famous Goodbye King Subject: Re: sycophant printing cost/where is this going > printing isn't that expensive... > you can get really nice stuff from your own computer, for God's sake > it's really only a matter of volume. > > which leads me on to my next question. > > Are most people looking at this as a commercial project, ie - something that > we could make a profit out of, or at least break even? > or do people think of it, like me, as a fun thing to do, we would each have > a copy of the cd, maybe a few to give to people we know who we think should > listen to lisa, *and* most importantly, we should give Lisa a copy to show > her how she is appreciated. the latter, and if that goes well, the former. so both :^> reid - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:39:25 PDT From: "Miss Taci" Subject: Re: sycophant printing cost/where is this going I regard this project more in these terms. taci }or do people think of it, like me, as a fun thing to do, we would each have a copy of the cd, maybe a few to give to people we know who we think should listen to lisa, *and* most importantly, we should give Lisa a copy to show her how she is appreciated.{ _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:54:43 MDT From: "efrain schunior" Subject: Re: sycophant printing cost/where is this going As do I... eef > >I regard this project more in these terms. > >taci > > >}or do people think of it, like me, as a fun thing to do, we would each >have >a copy of the cd, maybe a few to give to people we know who we think should >listen to lisa, *and* most importantly, we should give Lisa a copy to show >her how she is appreciated.{ > > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > > >------- >The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ >------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >unsubscribe sycophant > >If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, >they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list >address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before >unsubbing. > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. 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