From: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org (sycophant-digest) To: sycophant-digest@smoe.org Subject: sycophant-digest V4 #45 Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org Sender: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk sycophant-digest Tuesday, March 30 1999 Volume 04 : Number 045 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: sycophant Current Tour [Kathryn Case ] Re: sycophant "used" Lisa [vigfus@skipulag.is] Re: sycophant Current Tour [Robin Hermann ] RE: sycophant "used" Lisa [Marc.Tobolski@cableone.net] sycophant Lisa Germano Live on the Net [vigfus@skipulag.is] sycophant Concert Etiquette 101 [Kimberly Hansen ] sycophant OH My my. [Audra Estrones Williams ] sycophant lisa fans @ queens... ["verite truth" ] Re: sycophant Glass Houses ["Gerard J. Jendras" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 13:30:50 -0600 From: Kathryn Case Subject: Re: sycophant Current Tour Thank you! Apology accepted gratefully. And sorry if I offended you as well. At 11:23 AM 3/29/99 -0800, Anthony Kyle Monday wrote: >Kathryn,. >Apologies if my tone offended. I was speaking about a few particular >industry people who've been infiltrating a lot of the shows I've attended - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 19:52:36 +0000 From: vigfus@skipulag.is Subject: Re: sycophant "used" Lisa I thought that Happiness in the Capitol edition was a collector's item, i.e. you cannot buy it new, do you? I can understand that a Lisa fan would like to have that one in his/her collection, even though it contains the same songs as the 4AD version. Correct me if I am wrong: this version has the same songs but they are in different sequence? Well I envy the lucky finder of this CD, I cannot get it here in Iceland, that's for sure! Vigfus - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 14:00:14 -0600 (CST) From: Robin Hermann Subject: Re: sycophant Current Tour Hey! Before this descends into another fit of "wait, I want to share my personal experience about [old/young/whatever] people" could we all agree that the first post on this topic didn't mean to insult all older people (if you go back and read the post carefully the author was careful only to insult a very specific group of people who only happened to be over 40), _stop_ talking about it, and move on? While I am heartened by the heightened activity on this list, barely any of it has anything to do with Lisa. And if you're feeling insulted by somebody, that's when you reply to that person individually. And besides, what does it really matter? Are any of us every going to meet each other? Probably not. Email's such an ephemeral medium anyway that getting irked about it seems like using howizters to kill ants. More Lisa conversation, please! Robin Hermann Office: 935-7341 History rhermann@artsci.wustl.edu Washington University www.artsci.wustl.edu/~rhermann "Marry, I will teach you: think yourself a baby that you have ta'en these tenders for true pay, which are not sterling. Tender yourself more dearly, or, not to crack the wind of the poor phrase, wringing it thus, you'll tender me a fool". - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 13:15:37 -0700 From: Marc.Tobolski@cableone.net Subject: RE: sycophant "used" Lisa You can find LG's Capital release of "Happiness" new. Difficult, but can be had. More than likely you will find it as "used" or as a "cut-out". There are decidedly different mixes between the Capital & 4AD releases, as well as the deletion/inclusion of a few tunes. Marc Tobolski Division Marketing Director CableONE, Inc. (602)364-6366 (602)364-6766 fax http://www.cableone.net/tobolski/ "Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-sycophant@smoe.org [mailto:owner-sycophant@smoe.org]On > Behalf Of vigfus@skipulag.is > Sent: Monday, March 29, 1999 1:11 PM > To: sycophant@smoe.org > Subject: Re: sycophant "used" Lisa > > > > > > > > I thought that Happiness in the Capitol edition was a > collector's item, > i.e. you cannot buy it new, do you? > I can understand that a Lisa fan would like to have that one > in his/her > collection, even though it contains the same songs as the 4AD version. > Correct me if I am wrong: this version has the same songs but > they are in > different sequence? > Well I envy the lucky finder of this CD, I cannot get it here > in Iceland, > that's for sure! > > Vigfus > > > > > > ------- > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > ------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe sycophant > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number > of computers, > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list > address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before > unsubbing. > > - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:41:44 +0000 From: vigfus@skipulag.is Subject: sycophant Lisa Germano Live on the Net This is a preliminary list for Lisa Germano recordings/interviews on the Web. If anyone can add to this list it would be greatly appreciated! You will need RealPlayer for this - should be available free through various channels. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------ Rolling Stone Network http://www.rollingstone.com/ Directions: 1. Press the letter "G" on the search line on top 2. Scroll down to "Germano, Lisa" 3. Press "Virtual Venue" on the list then you should see this: Lisa Germano 4/2/97 Show:Recorded at Schubas in Chicago Lisa Germano 4/2/97 Interview:Pre-show interview by Brandon Barber Then just press the "Show" or "Inteview" at your own choice. There will be an additional menu wher you can choose different modem speeds: 28.8 and 56+ Just press the appropriate red button and there it goes.............. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------ KRCW, St. Monica, Calif. KCRW features exclusive interviews and live performances from the KCRW studios. http://www.liveconcerts.com/ Directions: 1. Press "In Studio" on the right menu bar 2. Select "Lisa Germano (July 21, 1998)" from the list and then "GO" button. 3. Press "real - Click for Audio" button/picture and there it goes................ Or you can choose following URL directly: http://www.liveconcerts.com/lcarchive/instudio/kcrw/980721/Lisa_Germano/ Directions: 1. Press "real - Click for Audio" button/picture and there it goes................ Lisa Germano On Morning Becomes Eclectic July 21, 1998 - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------ Vigfus - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 14:52:52 -0600 From: Kimberly Hansen Subject: sycophant Concert Etiquette 101 You have my complete sympathy. Thank you for the update. It brings up a good topic. With Lisa as an opener, not everyone will be there to see her. So, there's going to be people there that chat loudly or pay little respect while she is performing. Of course, there's always THOSE kind of people at every concert - People who are loud and disrespectful and pay little attention to the performance. I find this REALLY gets on my nerves... yet I know some people that can just tune it out. As a group of concert goers - are there any tips on how to deal with these types of people? Seems to me every time I've ever asked anyone to be quiet it just makes matters worse. I know someone will undoubtedly suggest moving away from the offenders, but often times in standing room only situation, I've been holding my good spot for over an hour...and am not willing to give it up. And what about those people that come 2 minutes before the show starts and decide to stand directly in front of you (when you've been there for hours and already have a back ache!) Ok, so I'm opening this up to the rest of you for suggestion. Oh - Anthony, I'm in Chicago..so you can bet yer butt the beer guzzling frat boys will be there (if there's not a game). You know, thought maybe they'd check out the show cuz it was highlighted in the weekend section of the paper or something. Uggggh! Kimberly >>> Anthony Kyle Monday 03/29/99 12:35pm >>> I saw the show in San Francisco last night. Unfortunately the show was advertised as starting at eight, and I got there about four minutes late, and Lisa was already playing (it's rare in SF for any shows to start on time); I'm not sure how much we missed. Anyway, I was really irritated for a number of reasons. ONe, when we walked in, everyone was jabbering and only people sitting right in front of the stage were listening to her (it was at Bimbo's 365, which is a beautiful, albeit huge, club). There was a very high percentage of older people at this show. Now, I don't want to sound ageist, but at least in San Francisco, grey hair at shows these days inevitably means: in their forties, well-off former hippies who think they're the shit and really "cool," and probably work for KFOG or some other radio station, and have absolutely no social graces whatsoever. So, very few of them were paying attention to LIsa and it was kind of an uneasy mix, although she seemed happy enough. We were standing only about twenty feet away from the stage, and there were two older guys in front of us in expensive lambskin jackets. Pretty quickly one loudly exclaimed, "I think I'm going to take this opportunity to go take a piss!" and walked off. "Fine," I thought. However, he came back and loudly launched into a story about how he'd run into someone who "really liked this jacket" to his friend (who, it should be said, looked like he was trying to listen). Both my girlfriend and I tapped his shoulder and asked him to stop talking, or at least move back further. He reared back and barked at me, "Oh, what? *This* is important to you?" "Yes," we said. He did keep it down after that although when Lisa said she only had one song left he said "thank god!". Asshole. Anyway, that really soured the night for me. We only saw Lisa play for about half an hour before the break and Latin Playboys. Now, I really like the Latin Playboys albums, and I liked them live, but the crowd really pissed me off. I ran into some people I used to know in college outsite between sets and one of them said "who was that woman?" When I told them a little bit, she asked, "How old is she?" "I don't know, thirty three or something." "She looks so young! But you can do lots of things with makeup!" Ack! Christ, I felt like I was never going to be able to communicate anything to these people who quickly went off to get stoned. The Latin Playboys were fantastic, but it was so crowded that we left early because we wound up standing next to someone who wasn't wearing deoderant. My only complaint about Latin Playboys live is that they kind of toned down the Latin influence and occasionally slipped into rock-based jams, which was kind of boring. But they're wonderful musicians. Nevertheless, I'd recommend going. Maybe the crowd will be better in your town. Lisa was wonderful, she played a few new songs, notably one called "alcohol," and it reconfirmed for me the fact that I absolutely love Lisa and her music, and wish that she could make it up from LA to SF more often. At 10:39 AM 3/29/99 -0600, you wrote: >The used CD topic has got to go!!! > >I'd like to ask fellow Lisa fans their opinion of the Latin Playboys. I'm >debating buying tickets... Of course I want to see Lisa, but I'm curious to >know more about the Latin Playboys. I understand that Mitchell Froom and >Tchad Blake are members of the band - which of course is a major plus... >Still, it seems like an odd line up. Your thoughts? > > > >------- >The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ >------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >unsubscribe sycophant > >If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, >they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list >address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before >unsubbing. > - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:48:52 -0500 From: Joe Wiencis Subject: RE: sycophant Concert Etiquette 101 Punch them in the face until unconsciousness. Or use a stun gun. Then move up and take their spot. > -----Original Message----- > From: Kimberly Hansen [SMTP:kimberly.hansen@wcom.com] > Sent: Monday, March 29, 1999 3:53 PM > To: sycophant@smoe.org > Subject: sycophant Concert Etiquette 101 > > You have my complete sympathy. Thank you for the update. It brings up a > good topic. With Lisa as an opener, not everyone will be there to see her. > So, there's going to be people there that chat loudly or pay little > respect while she is performing. Of course, there's always THOSE kind of > people at every concert - People who are loud and disrespectful and pay > little attention to the performance. I find this REALLY gets on my > nerves... yet I know some people that can just tune it out. > > As a group of concert goers - are there any tips on how to deal with these > types of people? Seems to me every time I've ever asked anyone to be quiet > it just makes matters worse. I know someone will undoubtedly suggest > moving away from the offenders, but often times in standing room only > situation, I've been holding my good spot for over an hour...and am not > willing to give it up. And what about those people that come 2 minutes > before the show starts and decide to stand directly in front of you (when > you've been there for hours and already have a back ache!) > > Ok, so I'm opening this up to the rest of you for suggestion. > > Oh - Anthony, I'm in Chicago..so you can bet yer butt the beer guzzling > frat boys will be there (if there's not a game). You know, thought maybe > they'd check out the show cuz it was highlighted in the weekend section of > the paper or something. Uggggh! > > Kimberly > - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 17:05:33 EST From: ZYG754@aol.com Subject: sycophant Syncophant-a joyful noise Lisa's coming to Detroit! I had seen pictures of her at the magic stick before, but never thought I would have the good luck to have a chance to see her play. And at a place within walking distance of my apartment, will the luck never stop... regarding OP9=8--just got this cd-- are Giant Sand albums more like the serenading country style of "Sand" and "Leather?" Or are they more like "Cracklin Water?" Thanks for posting her tour dates and locations. - -Jessica - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 18:37:29 -0500 (EST) From: just a pretty little princess Subject: Re: sycophant Concert Etiquette 101 <<>> though you said that telling them to quiet down doesn't always help, i've found that it does. if someone is being really loud (especially loudly voicing their opinion about 'how much the band sucks') and is right behind me, or next to me, i just politely tell them if they don't like it, they should leave. most of the time the offenders make a face at me like *i'm* the rude one, but then they either leave or stop talking. so, my suggestion is to try it politely. if that doesn't work, i usually just keep turning around and glaring at them until it makes them so uncomfortable that they have to leave. i hate the disrespect that most opening acts suffer. it's one of the most annoying things about going to shows. i just want to puke all over the people who are so mean. blah. and, if you're going to see the headlining band, and don't like the opening band, chances are the headlining band hand-picked the opening band out of respect for their music, so shouldn't the fans of the headlining band have enough respect to respect the guest of the band they came to see? hmph. respect respect respect. ciao, corinna - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 19:57:22 -0400 From: Audra Estrones Williams Subject: sycophant A review of Slide. Hey all, here's a review of "Slide" which I just wrote. Lisa Germano Slide 4AD "Do you remember when/playing was everything?" "But I like it when you're sad/I'm happier" "Play the day again/They're probably watchin'" "I knew I'd go down today/And crash into myself" "Guillotine love/We always knew/Long before storms/Ever came through" "Cause it says that god/Is a soul masturbator" You might not think so read these lyrics, but Lisa Germano is a total inner-child musician. Not the childhood that they talk about on infomercials: all innocence and baking cookies, but the childhood that most of us had. Pulling legs off of spiders, playing elaborate fantasy games, demanding to go the circus every day, reading too many Roald Dahl books, and often getting fucked over by the grown ups in charge. (Not you, Dad.) Lisa Germano's inner child hears calliopes and oboes and spins like a dervish. She is sulky, taunting, demanding and is terrified that she might not be the centre of the universe. "Oh my, my/Turning into betty" she sings with narrowed eyes when the sexy little girl inside her is rearing her geeky little head. You dance to this music, too, to the violins and the singsong rhythms. The way you danced when you were unselfconscious about your body, the way you danced when you had all the egotism of a prepubescent. And her voice is mumbly and it sounds like her nose is kinda plugged and she doesn't have a tenth the octave range of a pop diva, yet even her humming is cathartic to listen too. It is pure, but never clean, never chaste. This album is a scraped knee and a smashed spirit all at once. It's like yanking on a pair of jeans under your flannel nightgown in the middle of night and being pulled into a cold truck in the driveway, wondering just where the hell Mom's taking you now. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:05:50 -0600 From: Kimberly Hansen Subject: sycophant Glass Houses Look Everyone, Anthony has apologised for his comment. Seems that some people have taken this quite personally, however Anthony did state "...at least in San Francisco, grey hair..." It's pretty obvious that he was not trying to insult anyone. Secondly, Gerard, looks like you've just made a huge generalization about senior citizens. "... well, they're not usually senior citizens (even though they probably can't hear as well)..." Annoying people come in all shapes, sizes and ages. Let's stay away from generalizations of any kind. >>> "Gerard J. Jendras" 03/29/99 01:28pm >>> Well, I don't think I'm the shit. Whether I'm well off or a former hippie is probably debatable. But I'm definitely in my 40s and greying. I do, however, know how to conduct myself during public performances. Reflecting on my own experience, those who've most often deserved to be told to "Shut the f*** up!" during public performances weren't in my age group. And in general, the ones driving around "sharing" their music with everyone within a one-block radius...well, they're not usually senior citizens (even though they probably can't hear as well), are they? - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 20:12:02 -0400 From: Audra Estrones Williams Subject: sycophant OH My my. Hey all, here's a review of "Slide" which I just wrote. Lisa Germano Slide 4AD "Do you remember when/playing was everything?" "But I like it when you're sad/I'm happier" "Play the day again/They're probably watchin'" "I knew I'd go down today/And crash into myself" "Guillotine love/We always knew/Long before storms/Ever came through" "Cause it says that god/Is a soul masturbator" You might not think so read these lyrics, but Lisa Germano is a total inner-child musician. Not the childhood that they talk about on infomercials: all innocence and baking cookies, but the childhood that most of us had. Pulling legs off of spiders, playing elaborate fantasy games, demanding to go the circus every day, reading too many Roald Dahl books, and often getting fucked over by the grown ups in charge. (Not you, Dad.) Lisa Germano's inner child hears calliopes and oboes and spins like a dervish. She is sulky, taunting, demanding and is terrified that she might not be the centre of the universe. "Oh my, my/Turning into betty" she sings with narrowed eyes when the sexy little girl inside her is rearing her geeky little head. You dance to this music, too, to the violins and the singsong rhythms. The way you danced when you were unselfconscious about your body, the way you danced when you had all the egotism of a prepubescent. And her voice is mumbly and it sounds like her nose is kinda plugged and she doesn't have a tenth the octave range of a pop diva, yet even her humming is cathartic to listen too. It is pure, but never clean, never chaste. This album is a scraped knee and a smashed spirit all at once. It's like yanking on a pair of jeans under your flannel nightgown in the middle of night and being pulled into a cold truck in the driveway, wondering just where the hell Mom's taking you now. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:46:12 PST From: "verite truth" Subject: sycophant lisa fans @ queens... > >Okay, good point about her making no money off used >copies and very little off new albums. But some >places it's very hard to get Lisa Germano albums >new. I am at univeristy in Northern Ireland, where >you would expect to find a few fans, but as far as I >know, I'm the only one that's even heard of Lisa >Germano. Sometimes used is all we can find. *Hey Stephen! I live in Belfast, and I'm a huge Lisa fan, and I've even managed to convert some of my friends... including one from cookstown!!!* > >That nobody's ever heard of her is a bit unfair when >you consider how popular s**t like Oasis are. > >Seeya >Stephen Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 21:24:16 EST From: ZYG754@aol.com Subject: sycophant manners the best thing to do at a concert, if there is an unruly audience member, is to throw a beer bottle. I have heard this works wonders. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 18:51:20 -0800 From: Kevin Kormylo Subject: Re: sycophant manners I like to stand on the offending patron's toes with my military boots and exhale an apology with my stale beer breath. I have other solutions for slam dancing punks who annoy me ... ZYG754@aol.com wrote: > the best thing to do at a concert, if there is an unruly audience member, is > to throw a beer bottle. I have heard this works wonders. > > ------- > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > ------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe sycophant > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list > address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before > unsubbing. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 21:55:47 -0500 From: "Gerard J. Jendras" Subject: Re: sycophant Glass Houses Good evening, all: I've taken my chill pills, and will continue gulping them. I have no bone to pick with Anthony. Had I experienced anything similar to what he did, I know I'd have found myself in quite a state. I'm glad it wasn't me...and I'm sorry it happened to him. As for generalization, I really don't think we need to go to the extreme of avoiding those "of any kind". I think that would stifle a lot of useful discourse. To be avoided, however, are those generalizations that are unfounded or unfair. As to whether my remark regarding the relative likelihood of hearing loss among senior citizens falls into those latter categories, you could investigate the matter for yourself. The research is clear and abundant, and I'm drifting way, way off topic as it is. Maybe I need a footnote :) "Hearing and Aging", _Topics in Geriatric Rehabilitation_, Dec 1998. Kimberly Hansen wrote: > > Look Everyone, > > Anthony has apologised for his comment. > Seems that some people have taken this quite personally, however Anthony did state "...at least in San Francisco, grey hair..." It's pretty obvious that he was not trying to insult anyone. > > Secondly, Gerard, looks like you've just made a huge generalization about senior citizens. "... well, they're not usually senior citizens (even though they probably can't hear as well)..." > > Annoying people come in all shapes, sizes and ages. Let's stay away from generalizations of any kind. > - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. 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