From: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org (sycophant-digest) To: sycophant-digest@smoe.org Subject: sycophant-digest V4 #9 Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org Sender: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk sycophant-digest Friday, January 15 1999 Volume 04 : Number 009 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: sycophant 4AD's response ["Stian Sandberg" ] Re: sycophant 4AD's response [John Blazek ] Re: sycophant word from my daddio [MAustin802@aol.com] Re: sycophant 4AD's response ["Stian Sandberg" ] Re: sycophant 4AD's response [Venmlegion@aol.com] Re: sycophant 4AD's response [Venmlegion@aol.com] Re: sycophant 4AD's response ["Stian Sandberg" ] sycophant - Love Circus? [jennifer rakowski ] Re: sycophant - Love Circus? [kleinemans@cyberdude.com (kleinemans)] sycophant Re: Lisa and 4AD [Venmlegion@aol.com] Re: sycophant 4AD's response [Matt J ] sycophant Bitchy Lisa? Nah. [StelthBear@aol.com] Re: sycophant - Love Circus? [Tricia Holtz & Darrell Whitbeck Subject: Re: sycophant 4AD's response >I wouldn't go so far as saying dropped. I think after the last record/tour >Lisa is taking time off etc. No plans for any releases in the foreseeable >future. They´re obiously confused at 4AD too... Guess that´s a good sign. Believe me, I didn´t want to be the one to bring you guys the bad news, but my info came from The Lisa herself. Maybe I misunderstood, I know she´s been thinking about playing live with other people (Sheryl Crow?), but give up composing? She´s the best musician around! Let´s pray together for the sake of our own shattered souls... - - Stian ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:42:36 +0100 From: John Blazek Subject: Re: sycophant 4AD's response Stian Sandberg wrote: > > >I wouldn't go so far as saying dropped. I think after the last > record/tour > >Lisa is taking time off etc. No plans for any releases in the > foreseeable > >future. > > They´re obiously confused at 4AD too... Guess that´s a good sign. > Believe me, I didn´t want to be the one to bring you guys the bad news, > but my info came from The Lisa herself. Maybe I misunderstood, I know > she´s been thinking about playing live with other people (Sheryl Crow?), > but give up composing? She´s the best musician around! Let´s pray > together for the sake of our own shattered souls... > > - Stian > >Can someone tell me why 4AD would WANT drop her? Is Slide selling disastrously or something? I have seen it in a number of record stores here in Brussels, and it got a good review in at least one local paper whcih I read, so I have assumed it was doing fairly well . . . John B. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:23:27 EST From: MAustin802@aol.com Subject: Re: sycophant word from my daddio any additional tracks on it? I have the orig. release (what a find that was!), and it always seems that when they do re-release them, it's with some little tid-bit. can be very annoying to those of us with it in the 1st place. (see Robyn Hitchcock) M - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 05:43:28 PST From: "Stian Sandberg" Subject: Re: sycophant 4AD's response Don´t think they want to drop her, IF they´ve split though, I´m pretty sure it was Lisa´s move. 4AD are used to commercial disasters aren´t they? To me anyway, 4AD is like a semi-idealistic company, that doesn´t really demand anything but quality from their roster. "It´s the best label in the world", as a very cool woman once said. By the way, Lisa´s records always get good reviews... I don´t know squat anymore, I´m joining the circle of confusion as of now, guess we´ll just have to wait... - - stian ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:21:03 EST From: Venmlegion@aol.com Subject: Re: sycophant 4AD's response In a message dated 1/14/99 8:46:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, atholbrose23@hotmail.com writes: << Don´t think they want to drop her, IF they´ve split though, I´m pretty sure it was Lisa´s move. 4AD are used to commercial disasters aren´t they? To me anyway, 4AD is like a semi-idealistic company, that doesn´t really demand anything but quality from their roster. "It´s the best label in the world", as a very cool woman once said. If that very cool woman you are referring to is Lisa, when I asked her about buying her records on vinyl, she told me to write to 4AD, when I told her I already had sent a SASE with no response, she said "Those Bastards!" - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:26:56 EST From: Venmlegion@aol.com Subject: Re: sycophant 4AD's response In a message dated 1/14/99 4:41:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, atholbrose23@hotmail.com writes: << They´re obiously confused at 4AD too... Guess that´s a good sign. Believe me, I didn´t want to be the one to bring you guys the bad news, but my info came from The Lisa herself. Maybe I misunderstood, I know she´s been thinking about playing live with other people (Sheryl Crow?), but give up composing? She´s the best musician around! Let´s pray together for the sake of our own shattered souls... >> Agreed with the part about 4AD being confused. Seeing as no one knows the real truth, all this speculating is getting us nowhere but apparent panic. It's very possible she is planning on simply taking soime time off for awhile to pursue other things (like playing with Sheryl Crow for ex) She deservers any time off she takes, after all she's been recording and touring pretty much non-stop for several years now. Maybe she's getting tired of it. Best musician in the world? Well, I wouldn't go that far, she is certainly multi faceted and extremely talented. So I won't be praying. As I said once before, as long as she is happy, then I'm happy for her. I'm sure she has not decided to give up recording all together. Time will only tell what she has up her pretty little sleeve. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:36:58 PST From: "Stian Sandberg" Subject: Re: sycophant 4AD's response >So I won't be praying. As I said once before, as long as she is >happy, then I'm happy for her. I'm sure she has not decided to give >up recording all together. Time will only tell what she has up her >pretty little sleeve. I'll be praying like hell, cos I don't buy her records to make her happy, I buy them to make myself happy (or sad whenever that's appropriate). I'm sorry, but for all I know, she might be a bitchy person, though I doubt that very much. By the way, you'll have to blame Tim about not getting what you payed for, not the whole label :o) She did say it's the best record company, you know, and I believe her... :o) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:37:36 -0600 From: jennifer rakowski Subject: sycophant - Love Circus? Hello - I've been trying to order Love Circus for a while now and each place that I've tried has told me that the album is no longer in production. I found that kind of odd. I have listened to Love Circus, but would like my own copy of it. Do any of you have any ideas of where I might be able to find it? I'd appreciate it. Take care. Jennifer - -- Jennifer Rakowski updated January 6, 1999 email: rakow@ou.edu http://students.ou.edu/R/Jennifer.K.Rakowski-1/ - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:56:06 +0100 From: kleinemans@cyberdude.com (kleinemans) Subject: Re: sycophant - Love Circus? >Hello - > >I've been trying to order Love Circus for a while now and each place >that I've tried has told me that the album is no longer in production. >I found that kind of odd. > >I have listened to Love Circus, but would like my own copy of it. Do >any of you have any ideas of where I might be able to find it? I'd >appreciate it. i've got love circus and slide but i can't find her other albums anywhere.. oh and i believe plato online ( http://www.plato.nl/ ) has a copy of love circus. however i once ordered an eels single and one of e's solo albums there and they mailed me that they didn't have those anymore, even though they were listed on their site. you can allways give it a shot though, but cd's are quite expensive in holland, so it'll be cheaper to get in the US (assuming that you are from the US, as all the other internet residents are.. blagh) well i haven't really searched for the first two? three? albums (moon palace is allways getting me a bit confused) yet. but are they even being published in europe???? kleinemans - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:35:12 EST From: Venmlegion@aol.com Subject: sycophant Re: Lisa and 4AD In a message dated 1/14/99 1:42:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, atholbrose23@hotmail.com writes: << I'll be praying like hell, cos I don't buy her records to make her happy, I buy them to make myself happy (or sad whenever that's appropriate). I'm sorry, but for all I know, she might be a bitchy person, though I doubt that very much. Well, I don't buy her records to make her happy either. I buy them because I enjoy them. All I said is if she wants to take time off whether it be one year or 10, that's her perrogative. and I won't hold it against her, or complain about it. I have all her records to keep enjoying til she makes another one, and the fond memories of the several times I have seen her live to keep me satisfied til she resurfaces. No need to panic here. Oh and she is far from bitchy. She has always been quite pleasant to me. She even gave me a great big hug one night backstage. (melt) From what I have seen of her in person, she is always very pleasant to everyone. Course, I've never seen anyone piss her off :) By the way, you'll have to blame Tim about not getting what you payed for, not the whole label :o) She did say it's the best record company, you know, and I believe her... >> Well, first off I don't know who Tim is. Secondly they never screwed me out of any money. They did however very rudely and quite unprofessionally not respond to my letter, especially considering that I sent them a SASE. So in that respect, I really have no respect for the company. THAT was enough to piss me off. Someone should have responded to that letter. However, that's what you get from amatuers. When I told Lisa about this, she said as I had qouted her in my last response: "Those Bastards!!!" I agree 100% - -Brian - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:58:17 -0800 (PST) From: Matt J Subject: Re: sycophant 4AD's response On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, Stian Sandberg wrote: > I'll be praying like hell, cos I don't buy her records to make her > happy, I buy them to make myself happy (or sad whenever that's > appropriate). I'm sorry, but for all I know, she might be a bitchy > person, though I doubt that very much. She's totally NOT. She was hella cool when I interviewed her; she even offered to buy me coffee because I'd taken the time to drive out to meet her. Then a week later when I saw her at the Largo she came over to the bar where I was sitting just to say hi before she went on stage... I think that's why I'm still into her music; sometimes when I meet musicians through station business or whatever I end up totally disillusioned with them, but Lisa is the coolest. --Matt J - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:37:55 EST From: StelthBear@aol.com Subject: sycophant Bitchy Lisa? Nah. I wrote Lisa in late 1997, to tell her how much I admire her work and also to solicit her advice on learning violin. I came home from a hard day at work one evening and picked up the mail, fired up my computer and proceeded to check e-mail. Idly flipping thru the stack of mail, I found a handwritten envelope from a Lisa in Los Angeles and I thought to myself, "Who the hell's Lisa, and why would she write me?" And then it hit me. Duh! :-) She wrote me a very nice letter thanking me for my comments and answered or commented on everything I'd written. I was very touched that she took the time to write me back. - -- Tim - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:33:23 -0500 From: Tricia Holtz & Darrell Whitbeck Subject: Re: sycophant - Love Circus? jennifer rakowski wrote: > Hello - > > I've been trying to order Love Circus for a while now and each place > that I've tried has told me that the album is no longer in production. > I found that kind of odd. > > Hi just thought I'd let you know that gemm.com still has Love Circus. Used > for $5 or new for $20 something. It is a great cd, so full of emotion and > beauty, it might be my favorite of hers, but I'm not sure cause I love them > all! darrell > > > ------- > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > ------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe sycophant > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list > address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before > unsubbing. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:08:46 -0500 (EST) From: just a pretty little princess Subject: sycophant lisa lisa hello, well. i heard from a reliable source (just trust me on this, i can't give away names, because the rumour mill can be very devious. i'm not doing this to spread rumours, i just want you guys to know the truth. but, if you don't want to believe me - that's ok, believe who you want to believe, but there is some truth to what is about to be said): lisa is taking a sabatical from music. she's not "quitting" - she's taking a break. this is what i know to be true. ~corinna ps> don't turn this into what happened last time. people were annoyed that i wouldn't tell them this or that, but i just can't, because i never know who is going to read this, and i just don't want to invade lisa's privacy. i guess i'm just paranoid when it comes to posting to this list, that's why i'm putting little disclaimers on everything, so maybe you guys won't attack me. funny thing - my sister was posting to the smashing pumpkins list about how lisa got kicked from the tour, and what lisa told wfhb listeners about it when she was interviewed, and some guy on the list got so pissed off and said stuff like "you really think you lie about all this and people will believe you?!" - he really thought she just made it up to start trouble. oh well. that's what i'm trying to avoid. i could have said it in less words. apologies for the wordiness. - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- |---------------------------------------------| | corinna lee:http://www.bluemarble.net/~cory | | ani difranco:http://www.ani.by.net/ | "It's the cliches that cause the trouble" * Jeannette Winterson - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- |---------------------------------------------| - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. 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