From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V10 #67 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Friday, July 4 2008 Volume 10 : Number 067 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [support-system] cleaned up girlysounds [john kim Subject: [support-system] cleaned up girlysounds derek, thanks for those. they are significantly better than anything i've heard so far. i've been rocking the girlysounds all day. jk _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail is giving away Zunes. Enter for your chance to win. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/ZuneADay/?locale=en-US&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Mobi le_Zune_V3 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 07:36:07 -0400 From: dayzij@aim.com Subject: [support-system] Re: support-system-digest V10 #66 >>Can't believe more things like this aren't being passed on to this mailing list regularly. I agree.B So list, where have you seen/heard Liz recently? I'll start: IB do know she's in the Newsweek with Cindy McCain on the cover.B B The picture in the magazine is way better than the one online. http://www.newsweek.com/id/142400 Return From Exile After 15 years, Liz Phair fights the ghosts of 'Guyville.' By Joshua Alston | NEWSWEEK Jun 30, 2008 Issue B MUSIC A reporter recently asked Liz Phair what it was like to be hated by everyone. "He said it just like that, totally matter-of-fact," says Phair, still in disbelief. "Obviously it was a huge pain in the ass." Nor is it fun to answer endless iterations of such a prickly inquiry. But by now, Phair, 41, knows that question is coming. This week she'll rerelease her debut album, "Exile in Guyville," to commemorate its 15th anniversary, in a deluxe edition that features previously unheard tracks and a documentary she directed. It's a celebration of the album that got her beatified by the rock cognoscentiband also set her up for a reversal of fortune when her most ardent fans revolted against her. The story of Phair's fraught relationship with her finest work isn't about what it's like to be hated. It's about what it's like to be loved, then hated. "Guyville" was released in 1993, when a wave of bold female voices in rock was cresting. Phair was unique among them, because while she wasn't afraid to rail against the rock patriarchybthe album was conceived as a song-for-song response to the Rolling Stones' "Exile on Main Street"bshe also wasn't afraid to display her sexuality in an unflinching way. It was an honest, funny, complex portrait of a young woman defining herself. No wonder, then, that it resonated deeply with tastemakers and critics. While it never put up boffo sales numbers, its cultural impact was huge, bringing Phair the kind of instant fame that tends to be a mixed blessing. "When I made it, I thought I would get the people in the neighborhood to think I was cool, and instead my whole life changed," she says. "Suddenly I was known around the world as this potty-mouthed, insane, schizophrenic girl." But once Phair's public bought into that girl, they wouldn't accept a watered-down version. The rift between Phair and her fans began when she revealed that while her songs sounded confessional, they were actually fictionalized. Her two subsequent releases, 1994's "Whip-Smart" and 1998's "whitechocolatespaceegg," failed to capture the same attention. Then, in 2003, nearly 10 years to the day after "Guyville" was released, she put out her self-titled fourth album, a glossy, sterile pop record in stark contrast to the low-fidelity messiness that had characterized her earlier work. To call the response to the album unkind is an understatement. "How are you enjoying life as a sell-out media whore?" began an open letter a fan posted on her blog the day of the new album's release. In the five years since then, Phair has kept herself busy, releasing another tepidly received album, recording some songs for soundtrack albums and scoring the new CBS drama "Swingtown." But she's also spent time coming to grips with why her fans felt so outraged by her later work. " 'Guyville' was this thing that spread through word of mouth. They felt like they owned it. And they felt like 'we elected you to this position, and now you need to deliver.' They felt betrayed, like I had betrayed that album and them, and I guess I get how that's a legitimate feeling." "Guyville," once a point of pride, became a shiny ball-and-chain preventing her from growing artistically. "My fans pulled me away from my work," she says. "There was a point at which I didn't feel connected to the songs anymore." But after 15 years of tug of war with the fans who felt they had to protect the album even from its creator, she's ready to pull back. To that end, she'll also be playing a batch of shows in which she'll perform "Guyville" in its entirety, including some songs she's never played live. Relearning the songs is a "nightmare," but it's part of the process of coming to peace with her ornery creative offspring. "There's something lovely and relieving about it," she says. "It's like when you have to clean out your closet, and it seems like it's going to be the most terrible thing in the world, then you do it and go, 'Oh, that wasn't so bad'." B) 2008 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:46:53 -0500 From: "Katie Brown" Subject: Re: [support-system] cleaned up girlysounds I wasn't able to get them from that site. Anyone want to B&P? On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 1:42 AM, john kim wrote: > derek, > > thanks for those. they are significantly better than anything i've heard > so > far. > > i've been rocking the girlysounds all day. > > jk > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Hotmail is giving away Zunes. Enter for your chance to win. > > http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/ZuneADay/?locale=en-US&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Mobi > le_Zune_V3 > - -- Kathleen M. Brown, Esq. ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V10 #67 ************************************