From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V8 #115 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Saturday, September 17 2005 Volume 08 : Number 115 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [support-system] " I Won't Decorate My love" The quitessential Liz Phair [TitleTK@aol.co] [support-system] Mother's Little Helper -- mp3 [Emil Breton ] [support-system] Off Topic: Feist [Tyler Coates ] [support-system] scientology [Tyler Coates ] Re: [support-system] Greatest Hits? [Tyler Coates ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 15:01:21 EDT From: TitleTK@aol.com Subject: [support-system] " I Won't Decorate My love" The quitessential Liz Phair Well, since my house got destroyed in a hurricane and I've had to move back in with my parents I want to personally thank Katie for giving me a reason not to slit my wrists with the newest Coldplay CD . . . Oh how I love making lists . . . Although, I think in Liz's case it would have to be a "best of" rather than a greatest hits . . . By the way did you pick 18 songs to coincide with EIG? I'm gonna make my list a little shorter. Actually I wouldn't even call this the "best of," rather "quintessential Liz." 1. Chopsticks - --This is the ultimate Liz Phair opener. Simple and sad and funny without an inkling of cheap sentiment 2. 6'1'' - --This is just classic Liz. This is the ultimate punk anthem. "And I hated you . . . " Who does she hate? Her boyfriend. I don't think it's that simple. She hates all men and she hates all women. She hates mainstream music and she hates indie music. She hates her fans. And yes, I think she even hates herself. This song speaks for her entire career. Whatever people want her to do she does the opposite. You say Liz isn't punk? She is the punk and this song personifies it better than Big Black's whole back catalogue. 3. Perfect World - -- "Cool, Tall, Vulnerable and Luscious" She describes herself better than anyone else ever could. 4. Flower - -- This song is all in the delivery. Which is why it doesn't work with a full band. Again, this is about contradiction She's trying to make us believe she's this sex-craved nympho. Maybe she was at one time but the narrator here sounds like a computer spitting out naughty words. She's not singing about how much she wants/loves/needs sex. She's singing about its total numbing effect. She's fucked one too many people and wants us to believe she's totally okay with that. But her voice tells a different story . . . 5. Support System - -- Completely underrated Liz Phair classic. The overdubbing here is brilliant. The way she harmonizes with herself is goosebump inducing. 6. Fuck and Run - -- Is this the best song she ever wrote? I vote yes. What's to be said? "Even when I was seventeen . . . even when I was twelve . . ." I still don't know what that line means. And it still creeps me out. The way this songs builds to an almost anticlimax is classic EIG. And classic punk rock. 7. Polyester Bride - -- A mock country song? Kind of, except she's being completely sincere. 8. Love/Hate - -- "I was a mess in my open eyed youth . . . " Exile in Guyville go fuck yourself! "Nothing's gonna change" This is her message? "Nothing's gonna change?" Why the hell shouldn't she work with the Matrix? Indie music didn't change the world and it never will. 9. Nashville - -- The best love song ever. "I won't decorate my love." In fact that should be the title of this "quintessential Liz mix. "I won't decorate my love." Love is messy. It's moronic. It's beautiful. It's not fucking worth it. It's totally worth it. Just like Liz. 10. Whatever Makes You Happy - -- A strange Liz song with an extremely life-affirming message. "I'm sending you his photograph/I swear this one is gonna last/and all those other bastards were only practice" At the time WCSE was the most hopeful Liz album. She believed her marriage could work. She believed her career could work on her terms. But it didn't. It couldn't. Liz, do "whatever makes you happy" as long as it's what your fans want, what the record industry wants, what the critics want, what your husband wants, what your child wants . . . In retrospect this could be Liz's saddest song. 11. Friend of Mine - -- "What happened? When did you let go of me?" It's all over. She knows it. We know it. But why? Why can't we just all hold hands and sing along to EIG until we're all old and deaf. The worst stage of an ending relationship is when you stop fighting. The fight is over. What do we do now? 12. Divorce Song - -- "But you've never been a waste of my time/and it's never been a drag/so take a deep breath and count back to ten/and everything will be alright . . . " Those are no longer Liz's words. They are our words to her. Do "whatever makes you happy", Liz. "Nothing's gonna change." You did the unthinkable, you released the greatest album of all time on your first try. How fucking tragic. And that, my dear Lizphiles is what punk rock is all about . . . james ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:23:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Emil Breton Subject: [support-system] Mother's Little Helper -- mp3 http://www.stereogum.com/Liz%20Phair%20-%20Mothers%20Little%20Helper.mp3 Those of you who were worried that you'd have to buy the dreadful Desperate Housewives soundtrack can breathe easy, because Stereogum (whatever that is) has made the Liz tune available as an mp3. Check it out. So... do you think Liz should just stick to doing covers now? Opinions, please. P.S. Hey, James - "Nashville" in't a love song. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:53:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Easter Subject: Re: [support-system] Greatest Hits? - --- Tyler Coates wrote: > My list: > 1. 6'1" > 2. Mesmerizing > 3. Fuck and Run > 4. Divorce Song > 5. Flower > 6. Explain It To Me > 7. Jealousy > 8. Supernova > 9. Sometimes A Dream (Is What Makes You A Slave) > 10. May Queen > 11. Go West > 12. Whip-Smart > 13. Polyester Bride > 14. Perfect World > 15. Go On Ahead > 16. H.W.C. > 17. Jeremy Engle > 18. Hurricane Cindy > 19. South Dakota > 20. Shitloads of Money ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ "Beatles and children first." George Harrison ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 02:31:13 -0500 From: Tyler Coates Subject: [support-system] Off Topic: Feist Hey, Is anyone into Feist as much as I am right now? Just saw her tonight at Schuba's in Chicago and was really blown away. Let It Die might be my second-favorite album released this year (after Sufjan Stevens's Illinois), and seeing her live was even better than listening to the album. Just...wow. She also played a new Broken Social Scene song. She's going to be opening up for them (which is weird...she's in the band) in a few weeks, and I know they're playing a show at the Metro in Chicago. I encourage everyone to check them out...that's going to be an amazing show. Side note: I've been a Chicagoan for a month, and I've already been to five shows here. I may pass on Liz at the Vic next month so I can see a couple of the other 800 shows I want to see in October. Tyler. - -- John Tyler Coates coatesjt@gmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:47:24 -0500 From: Tyler Coates Subject: [support-system] scientology Wikipedia lists Liz under its list of famous scientologists. I hadn't heard this before... any validity to this? Tyler. - -- John Tyler Coates coatesjt@gmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:40:01 -0500 From: Tyler Coates Subject: Re: [support-system] Greatest Hits? My list: 1. 6'1" 2. Mesmerizing 3. Fuck and Run 4. Divorce Song 5. Flower 6. Explain It To Me 7. Jealousy 8. Supernova 9. Sometimes A Dream (Is What Makes You A Slave) 10. May Queen 11. Go West 12. Whip-Smart 13. Polyester Bride 14. Perfect World 15. Go On Ahead 16. H.W.C. 17. Jeremy Engle 18. Hurricane Cindy 19. South Dakota 20. Shitloads of Money On 9/15/05, Easter wrote: > > Know what would be nice to have? A Greatest Hits cd > from Liz! > > Just for fun, what 18-20 songs would you like to see > on there? > > My list: > 1 Stratford-On-Guy > 2 Never Said > 3 Mesmerizing > 4 Supernova > 5 Whip-Smart > 6 Jealousy > 7 Divorce Song > 8 Fuck and Run > 9 WCSE > 10 What Makes You Happy > 11 Polyester Bride > 12 Red Light Fever > 13 Bionic Eyes > 14 Good Love Never Dies > 15 Extraordinary > 16 Uncle Alvarez > 17 Blood Keeper > 18 Rockey Boy > > Dang! That was hard! > Is there anyone that's going to the Orlando, FL > show?Please email me! > > Katie (); ) > > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > "Beatles and children first." > George Harrison > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > - -- John Tyler Coates coatesjt@gmail.com ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V8 #115 ************************************