From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V7 #79 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Tuesday, April 6 2004 Volume 07 : Number 079 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [support-system] Philly & NYC ["Kim Cowgar" ] [support-system] RE: Philly & NYC ["Eric Ginsburg" ] [support-system] Liz / Andy Slater / Capitol [Kenneth Lee Subject: RE: [support-system] Philly & NYC Emil, dude, you got to hear WhipSmart!?! You are one lucky SOB! I've wanted to hear/see that live forever. She didn't do the audience poll at Towson either, so I got lucky enough to get Hurricane Cindy there (That song rocks live!) and Stratford at Philly. They did the face-to-face and back-to-back at Towson also. Kim - ----Original Message Follows---- From: Emil Breton To: support-system@smoe.org Subject: [support-system] Philly & NYC Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 20:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Ginz wrote: <> I was at this show and the one at Roseland the next night, and let me tell you, the face-to-face and back-to-back jam was staged and executed flawlessly at both shows. I wouldn't be surprised if they'd done it every night on this tour. I think every grin, joke, and footstep was choreographed, in fact. We're talking about a professional schlockmonger here -- albeit a very loveable one. (I wanna split now; I just can't quit now; she's really got a hold on me.) The setlist was *exactly* the same both nights, but the real treat in New York was "Hurricane Cindy" (no "Stratford"). I talked to her after the show in Philly and said "How about 'Hurricane Cindy' tomorrow night?", and she looked at me all wide-eyed and said "YES! In fact, I like doing that one more, but everyone's always like 'Ennnh....'" So last night at Roseland, she didn't do the audience poll; she just played "Cindy" and it fuckin' kicked my ass. But for the record, it is the comeandgetit version, with the unfortunate "and I wonder..." verse substituted for the classic "Put it on the stereo and play" parts. She also ended the NYC show with a Mighty Wind-esque, sit-down, acoustic medley of "Suspicious Minds" and "Whip-smart". Get that: fuckin' "Whip-smart"! First time in 9 years. That was cool. Otherwise it was all pretty mediocre. I will say that the crowd in New York was way hipper than the one in Philly (apart from New York's inexplicably un-jaded and ridiculously enthusiastic response to Wheat, which has got to be one of the most banal, pointless bands I've ever seen or heard). __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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It seemed like they had done this every night...."hey, quick, this is the part where we do the back-to-back thing." It was still fun. At least we can't accuse Liz of being overblown, and overdone. If anything, she's underdone. At least I'm not seeing her at some summertime outdoor amphitheater at a show billed as "THE concert of the summer, 2004". Bleh. But, this is exactly why I mentioned that college tour of 1999. Things seemed desparate and genuinely spontaneous, then. I felt they were all thinking, "Geez, I REALLY don't want to go back to my day job." The Whitechocolatespaceegg wave broke, and then receeded. And there they were, playing for 300 people in a packed, shoebox of a club for once last night. Now that makes for good rock and roll. - -Ginz _________________________________________________________________ Watch LIVE baseball games on your computer with MLB.TV, included with MSN Premium! http://join.msn.com/?page=features/mlb&pgmarket=en-us/go/onm00200439ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 20:53:08 -0400 From: "Chris DeLisle" Subject: [support-system] "Love / Hate" and "My Bionic Eyes" she's been playing "Love/Hate" and "My Bionic Eyes" live, right? how do they come off? they were a couple of songs i immediately thought would be great played live ~ too bad she didn't perform them last summer. also, didn't she start the tour off playing "Friend of Mine?" was it too schmalzy? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 23:07:32 -0400 From: Tyler Coates Subject: [support-system] DC show Did anyone else from the list go to the 930 Club show? It was my first time seeing Liz, and I had an amazing time. First of all, Rachel Yamigata (sp?) was pretty damn good. She has an amazing voice and was really entertaining. I remember her introducing a song by saying, "This is another song about another one of my ex-boyfriends' ex-girlfriends. Seriously gals, if you're having problems with your man, send them to me, and in two weeks they'll be right back to you." Wheat was okay...the music was decent but the lead singer was very stoned and rambled on about "jumping the wave," etc. Liz came out as her band began the intro to the new version of "Flower," which kicks ass. She played for about an hour and a half, then finished with a three-song encore. I can't remember the order, but here were the songs: Flower Polyester Bride Rock Me Uncle Alvarez Divorce Song My Bionic Eyes Red Light Fever Never Said Johnny Feelgood Supernova Extraordinary Why Can't I Love/Hate Help Me Mary Hurricane Cindy Mesmerizing 6'1" Shining Star (Sly and the Family Stone cover...Rachel came out with a bottle of champagne to celebrate the last show on the tour) Fuck and Run H.W.C. During "Shining Star", I saw she gave her cup of champagne to someone in the front row, told them to take a drink and hold it for her. She didn't really know the words, but it was still entertaining. "I'm not afraid to mangle a song," she said. After the show ended I wanted to rush outside to go around and meet her, but since it was sold-out and I was close to the front, it was taking a while for everyone to file out. As I was walking toward the exit, I hear people screaming behind me. Liz came back onstage to sign autographs, so I rushed back. I meant to bring my Exile in Guyville liner notes, but I left them at home, so I took off my shoe (a Converse All- Star) and handed it to her. She hesitated a bit and I said, "You can sign it wherever you want!" She signed the rubber above the toes and said, "I'm sorry, but you're gonna have to wear it like this now!" I smiled, and, too shy to think of anything cool to say, spat out, "You're awesome!" So now I have Liz's signature on my shoe. :) Can't wait to see her again! Tyler. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 22:07:33 -0700 From: Kenneth Lee Subject: [support-system] Liz / Andy Slater / Capitol Jase wrote: >I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet, but it looks like a lot of >changes are in the works at EMI right now. It's possible that this could >affect Liz, as Capitol is an EMI label, and they're going to be dropping >one-fifth of their labels' rosters, including "niche and under-performing >artists." Since the new album still hasn't gone gold after all the money >spent to promote it, Liz may fall into the latter category. On a similar vein, here is Liz defending Capitol Records president Andy Slater in a lengthy article about him in "The New York Times", March 23, 2004: ***** Not everyone appreciates such detailed vision. "He [Andy Slater] definitely thinks he knows better than the artist, and that was one thing that always offended me," said a musician from a band no longer on Capitol, who spoke on condition of anonymity. "We're fairly capable of deciding what font our logo should be in." The rock singer Liz Phair disagreed. "He permeates all offices, so to speak," she said. "And at the same time he lets everybody do what they do." She said Mr. Slater was closely and helpfully involved in her controversial decision to recast her image from intellectual songwriter to sexy pop star for her latest album, "Liz Phair". Mr. Slater even rerecorded -- after hours -- the bass and drums for the album's first single, "Why Can't I?" "Liz Phair" has sold 321,000 copies since June; Ms. Phair's best-selling album, "Exile in Guyville", has sold 430,000 copies in 11 years. Still, it's not the Top 40 pop hit Capitol and Ms. Phair were hoping to register. ***** - -Ken kenmlee@ix.netcom.com MeSmErIzInG - AnOtHeR LiZ PhAiR WeBsItE http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/2471/ ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V7 #79 ***********************************