From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V7 #47 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Wednesday, March 3 2004 Volume 07 : Number 047 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [support-system] RE: Liz's column on nerve.com ["Paul Spinks" ] [support-system] reaction to SF Chronicle article ["Chris DeLisle" ] Re: [support-system] reaction to SF Chronicle article [Emil Breton Subject: [support-system] RE: Liz's column on nerve.com The correct URL is http://www.nerve.com/Regulars/Quickies/lizphair/001/ (I kid you not) and it's free to view. It's also linked from nerve's home page, if you scroll. Part 2 comes out on March 11th, and there's an email address to write in to, so everyone has a few days to identify the relationship issues they're prepared to admit to and need Liz's advice on (Liz giving advice to her fans - that will make a change...) HTH Paul > Here's the link, but you have to be a premium (see also - pay) to view it. > www.nerve.com/dispatches/helmut/ > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: bmad >> sorry if this has been posted already but i didn't notice that >> anyone had mentioned liz's advice column on nerve.com a >> couple of days ago. [...] i don't know how to find >> it, because they've taken her off the cover by now, but if anyone is >> interested, i'm sure you can still read it if you poke around on the site. - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.594 / Virus Database: 377 - Release Date: 24/02/2004 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 04:24:34 -0500 (EST) From: Arie Moyal Subject: Re: [support-system] RE: Liz's column on nerve.com Nice! I like, I like.. Arie - --- "Dear Liz, I don't own an Xbox but what's give or take 13 years right?" On 02.03.2004 at 02:14:03, Paul Spinks wrote: > The correct URL is http://www.nerve.com/Regulars/Quickies/lizphair/001/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 08:35:40 -0800 From: "Lani" Subject: [support-system] liz at the warfield I don't have time to post a complete review of the sf warfield show- but i'll give you all some of the highlights (i'm sure someone else out there will write a more lengthly review). i went to the show with my boyfriend who is not a huge liz fan like me, but he likes her. i took him to the fillmore last year and he loved the show. so the warfield wasnt sold out. I hadn't even purchased tickets beforehand. I knew from the last time at the fillmore that there would be lots of extra tickets. so we bought 2 great seats for face from some guy and then went in to wait for liz. we didnt really watch the 2 openers, caught the tail end of the guy (have no idea his name) and he was alright. our seats were right next to the soundboard. great view. her entrance was so "rock star" i was cracking up. all smoke and the guys were like totally rocking out and then she finally comes on stage. she opened with the new version of flower which i loved. then she did a bunch of WCSE songs, then preceded to play the entire new album. my favorite underwear and all. i HATE that song. I even left to go to the bathroom during rock me which i also despise. she seemed preoccupied a bit during the show. though she kept saying how much fun she was having. there wasnt as much banter as usual. she did hurricane cindy which was great and an awesome chopsticks and supernova. she encored with perfect world, fuck and run and HWC. she said "we opened with a little sauce, now will close with a little sauce" that was cute. I wasnt impressed as much this time as I was at the fillmore and in nyc at the bowery. this seemed to be a new album driven show. she looked hot - hot pink cut out shoulders shirt and a flowy skirt over jeans and pointy white boots. I dont know, I just didnt feel it this time as much. also, the sound guy sucked. you couldnt hear her well on a bunch of songs. as a side note, we took the bus home and were talking about the show, right in front of us was the house lighting guy from the warfield! he told us the crew was liz's and they had no idea what they were doing they were total amateurs. the lighting guy, sound guy, etc. said the lighting guy wouldnt let him help or touch anything. it was pretty funny b/c we noticed all that stuff during the show. like how the lights pretty much sucked! (we're used to phish shows!) hmmm, that turned out to have more detail then i thought i'd include. someone else can fill in the blanks! Lani ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 15:44:49 -0500 From: "Chris DeLisle" Subject: [support-system] reaction to SF Chronicle article re: 1994's overearnest Whip Smart and 1998's boring Whitechocolatespaceegg huh? re: the subversive "Rock Me" huh? re: To her now balding and beer-gutted hardcore fans piss off. re: face all the same insecurities she had before selling half a million records has she really sold half a million? what a strange article. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 13:09:12 -0800 From: Kenneth Lee Subject: [support-system] Liz at the Warfield Since Lani has posted about the show, I'll just add details here and there. Here's what I jotted down: Rachael Yamagata opened the show there was some audience interaction -- someone went to an earlier show (Las Vegas, I believe) and wanted to know about "Tom" -- apparently an ex-boyfriend who she's really hung up about. In fact, almost every song she played was about him! Some of her friends and relatives were in the audience. Next up, Patrick Park. He opened up for Liz at the Fillmore last year, but this time he came with a band (drummer and bassist). Finally, at around 10:15pm, Liz's band comes out and starts playing. Liz strolls out, with head set in tow, and performed a newly arranged version of "Flower". Okay, setlist as follows, with guitars noted, for Emil Breton's pleasure [s - guitar with the star sticker, a - acoustic guitar, r - red guitar, b - brown guitar]: * Flower s * Hurricane Cindy s (performed solo, she goofs up at the end) * Polyester Bride a mentions how "cute" Michael the guitar guy is * Rock Me s (although she wasn't playing it, just stroking it) * Johnny Feelgood s * Uncle Alvarez s Liz mentions her earlier 1995 appearance at the Warfield (her solo show) and mentions that her sound technician from that show was backstage watching * My Bionic Eyes s * Divorce Song r band introductions * 6'1" s * Red Light Fever b Liz moves over to the piano -- an audience member screams for "Canaray", to which Liz replies, "I need to learn how to play that again." * Chopsticks piano Liz tells a Julia Roberts story (because someone in the audience asks if Liz really did know Julia Roberts). It had something to do with ear piercings. * Extraordinary s Liz wishes "happy birthday" to the sound guy Rory. * Love / Hate r Liz mentions that "it's a war in my fucking head." * Firewalker r * Stratford On Guy s * Favorite s * Why Can't I a * Friend Of Mine s * Supernova s Liz and band leave the stage, but return at around 11:30pm Liz mentions that she was really into doing an encore this evening, which is usually unusual for her. * Perfect World s * Fuck And Run s Liz "we start with a little sauce, and we end with a little sauce." * H.W.C. s show ends at 11:40pm Other random things: she mentioned that Michael the guitar tech was in a bad mood. Rachael Yamagata during her performance said that Liz was giving her advice (on songwriting and guys). That's all I can recall for now. Maybe someone else will have more details? - -Ken kenmlee@ix.netcom.com MeSmErIzInG - AnOtHeR LiZ PhAiR WeBsItE http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/2471/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 15:17:26 -0800 (PST) From: Emil Breton Subject: Re: [support-system] reaction to SF Chronicle article I feel the same about the SF Chronicle article. Didn't Gina Arnold's piece also appear in that publication? The mind boggles. 2003 is the year that I officially lost any faith I ever had in rock journalists. Never again will I assume that critics know more than your average everyday balding, beer-gutted, Sam Goody employee. Fuck it! P.S. No, she hasn't sold half a million. - --- Chris DeLisle wrote: > re: 1994's overearnest Whip Smart and 1998's boring > Whitechocolatespaceegg > > huh? > > re: the subversive "Rock Me" > > huh? > > re: To her now balding and beer-gutted hardcore > fans > > piss off. > > re: face all the same insecurities she had before > selling half a million > records > > has she really sold half a million? > > what a strange article. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 15:29:16 -0800 (PST) From: Emil Breton Subject: Re: [support-system] reaction to SF Chronicle article I wrote: > I feel the same about the SF Chronicle article. > Didn't > Gina Arnold's piece also appear in that publication? Oops -- Arnold's thing was in the East Bay Express. I just re-read it, and you know what? It's even more offensive now than it was this past summer! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 16:40:38 -0800 From: carrma@wellsfargo.com Subject: [support-system] San Francisco show review After about 10 years of near misses I finally got to see Liz play. It was a good show over all. Liz was great. The sound was bad. Her voice was lost in the mix on many of the songs--Johnny Feelgood was practically instrumental. On about half of the songs the volume was up so loud that the sound was distorted (and not in that good punk rock sort of way). Liz asked them to increase her volume after the audience was complaining they couldn't hear her--but it didn't help that much because I think they just raised her volume rather than dropping the other volumes down a bit. When she played solo and on the quieter songs the sound was much better--you could hear her voice and distinct instruments. She played Hurricane Cindy and Stratford-On-Guy solo and played Chopsticks (on a keyboard of course!) with minimal ambient guitar backing. After Chopsticks she told a story about Julia Roberts gruffly pushing a needle the rest of the way through her ear after an attempt at self piercing was abandoned due to too much pain. The new songs sounded good, but was odd to see Liz dance her guitar around the stage in a suggestive manner rater than playing it during Rock Me. I wonder if that was part of the Matrix coaching or self-added flourish? :D Love/Hate transmission was both played and sung very well but still not crazy about the lyrics. After the song was over Liz grabbed her head and said "there's a war in my fucking head". But she seemed in good spirits and she ended up adding an extra song to the main set. I can't remember the exact set list and order so I won't post it, but it was a pretty good blend of her albums. Hopefully it won't be another 10 years before I get to see her play again! As far as the rest of the show. I really liked the 1st opening act, Rachael Yamagata, her stage presence is sort of like Janis Joplin meets Lili Taylor's character from Say Anything. There was a very talented guitarist backing her up on about half of the songs, but I can't remember his name. I guess she has an album coming out soon that should be worth a listen based on her performance. The second act, Patrick Park, wasn't nearly as good--he really drained the much of the enthusiasm and momentum from the room. He should have played first or preferably not at all. I guess he's been sick lately so that may explain part of the problem. ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V7 #47 ***********************************