From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V6 #330 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Saturday, December 13 2003 Volume 06 : Number 330 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [support-system] i left the cake out in the rain.... ["dana p." ] [support-system] RE: support-system-digest V6 #329 [George Song Subject: [support-system] i left the cake out in the rain.... oh, this "little digger" argument.... all i can really do is comment on the comments. and, i have to say, i'm gonna side with those who are nauseated/unimpressed by the trite sentimentality--'cause that's the kinda gal i am. see, i love incisive interps that point to something being "lazy, mawkish, and cloying"--'cause it's usually totally true. and considering the rest of the fare on LP, i expect nothing more than, well, lazy, mawkish, and cloying. as far as i'm concerned, this CD should be called "next!" or "three-hour layover." or, ha ha, how 'bout "kick me"? anyway, back to these comments. 'cause a few things i'm reading really bug me. 'cause here's the thing: having good, noble intentions, as far as disclosing the deep stuff to an audience, does not a brilliant song make. or even a good one. so, umm, no.... you know better than that and so do i. and please, please, please don't bring up that "if you don't have kids, you just don't get it" stuff. seriously, just stop it. because that is not the answer. we childless folk--we GET it.... what's to not get? deep existential panic is everywhere all the time. facing the fact that you're "in something you can't get out of" (which is the real issue, by the way)-- we ALL do it. one way or another, we're *all* in it; we're all laying a minefield of "unintended consequences." and as far as the supposed profundity regarding the kid thing goes, i'm gonna quote a couple lines from "sex and the city"-- the time when steve goes to pick brady up from miranda, doesn't really want to, and finally sheepishly admits "... i'm afraid i'm gonna kill the baby." and miranda shoots back, "steve, we're BOTH afraid we're gonna kill the baby...." and that's just it--how can you NOT be afraid you're gonna kill the baby?? it's *completely unnatural* to not be afraid of that.... so, as far as i'm concerned, the subject matter really isn't all that intense or profound; what's more, and what probably exacerbates the problem, is that the sentiments and concerns apparently aren't expressed all that well. look, this whole record is a collection of watered-down, commodified ideas. that's it. whatever. like i said, "next!!" hey, i'm only doing what's being asked of me.... the "summer shower" is long gone. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:21:29 -0500 From: Dan MacDonald Subject: [support-system] L7 new release... Lor wrote: Looking forward to 2004 releases from Veruca Salt, Nina Gordon, Fiona Apple, Julianna Hatfield, Courtney Love, L7, Heart and others I hope. sorry to drop this bomb - i'm afraid L7 is on an indefinite hiatus. Donita Sparks is working on a solo album with Dee on drums - but it will not be an incarnation of L7 - it's gonna be something different. the hiatus is indefinite - but it doesn't sound good. you can read more about it at www.smellL7.com i can't wait for fiona, courtney, veruca, and PJ harvey either..... laters, dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:53:40 -0800 From: George Song Subject: [support-system] RE: support-system-digest V6 #329 Are you insane?! > ------------------------------ > From: Dan MacDonald > > The "YOU SUCK IN 2003" Awards: > Radiohead - Hail to the Thief ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V6 #330 ************************************