From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V6 #285 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Saturday, October 25 2003 Volume 06 : Number 285 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [support-system] Re: Stephanie says... [Catherine Molanphy ] [support-system] Reversal of fortune ["Derek McGough" Subject: [support-system] Re: Stephanie says... Stephanie wrote: > People look for way too much from artists. Try looking > inward and at the people you know in real life instead. > Don't get me wrong, I think Liz is amazing, but I'm not > looking for much of a connection with her. Ditto. - --Catherine p.s. uhhh... content? Hrmm... I dreamed about Liz last night. Well, not her exactly, but my high school best friend to whom I haven't spoke in years... I dreamed she wrote a book about me, and then she somehow morphed into Liz. You know how dreams are... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:11:29 -0400 From: Dan MacDonald Subject: [support-system] Thank Christ It's Friday Stephanie- wrote: People look for way too much from artists. Try looking inward and at the people you know in real life instead. The people I know in real life instead? Shit...u mean there is life after Liz? For real... weird. I'm glad you pointed this out though. Now what the hell has been going on since 1993? I think I'm gonna go call up my friends and invite them out for cheese sticks at T.G.I. Fridays and do some serious inward soul-searching. Thanks for the advice! dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:27:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Emil Breton Subject: Re: [support-system] Thank Christ It's Friday Dan wrote: > I think I'm gonna go call up my friends and invite > them out for cheese > sticks at T.G.I. Fridays and do some serious inward > soul-searching. > > Thanks for the advice! yeah, really. What the fuck? Emil __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:13:54 +0000 From: "over pavema" Subject: [support-system] Re: support-system-digest V6 #284 al wrote: >Sorry if this may have been said before, but there is >a clip at VH1 with Liz sitting by a pool in a bikini >top talking about sex and swimming. She looks good, >even to this gay guy. :) > >http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/phair_liz/artist.jhtml oh my god, it turns out she's a dumbbell! the hair flips, the giggles, the 'explanation' of HWC, the use of the word 'sauntering'... so, ok, let's say 'exile' isn't any better than 'L/P'. they're equal. but, man, contrast this video with the mtv interview back in the day, with liz and tabitha soren at coney island. or the old 'truth or phair' clip from vh1. she wasn't more 'serious' then, she was funny. but she seemed smart. this clip, i can't believe her publicist allowed it to be posted. in fairness, what do i expect from any show called 'rock bodies'? they're not exactly going to be talking about the theme of betrayal in 'mystic river' or anything. so, maybe I'M the dumbbell. but, this really IS becoming an embarrassingly public form of career suicide... someone has also very kindly been posting up the weekly billboard chart positions for "L/P". it's at 199 this past week, trending down, meaning it'll probably be out of the top-200 next week. so, i will assume this means sales of, what, 300,000 units? not platinum or gold. so, what does capitol do now? they poured a wad into this record and it seems unlikely they'll do it again next time around with these results. any scuttlebutt on the reaction to this double whammy at capitol? first she gives up her artistic credibility to sell more copies, then she doesn't sell more copies. any wagers on whether they drop her completely, or just keep sending her onto daytime tv shows as a sort of purgatory for misfit toys? the "Liz Phair" cd popped up on my cd changer in the car the other day, and i mostly let it play through. but i realized that i hadn't listened to it in 6 or 8 weeks, and i didn't miss it. 'love/hate' is still my favorite, and 'it's sweet' is good, and 'friend of mine'. but most of it had no impact, removed from the 'newness' of listening to it in, say, june. it's been out for 4 months now. i'm interested: do people find they still listen to it? do they find their opinions of it changing, for better or worse? and lastly i thought that post about liz being shown in a company presentation, to indicate that this company was going to start tageting the under-35 crowd was very funny. not at liz's expense, but just that whoever put the presentation together thought she represented that demographic... np: my bloody valentine on the 'lost in translation' soundtrack (which is a brilliantly atmospheric cd, btw) o .. _________________________________________________________________ Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your current Internet access and enjoy patented spam control and more. Get two months FREE! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:46:54 -0700 (PDT) From: SHERLY McLACHLAN Subject: [support-system] RE: Listening to LP Hey All, In response to O's post. I also just gave it a listen after not hearing it for a month or so. I programed it to skip the one's I can't handle. Something I've never done with a Liz cd. I just can't listen to any of the matrix song and I have to be in the mood for My Mother Is Mine. The rest I enjoy, but I have yet to develope a need to hear any of them like with other Liz song. Sometimes I just have to hear the other ones. On a different note does anybody know where I can get my hands on a copy of Jen Trynins 1st cd? I've been checking the used cd stores but know luck. Thanks Lor The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:08:50 -0400 From: Jase Subject: Re: [support-system] RE: Listening to LP Lor wrote: >On a different note does anybody know where I can get my hands on a copy >of Jen Trynins 1st cd? I've been checking the used cd stores but know luck. I think both of Jen's albums are still available from her Web site, www.jentrynin.com, but are otherwise out of print now. There's always eBay as well; there's usually two or three copies of _Cockamamie_ listed there at any given time. The first album from Jen's new band Loveless is also now available for order from www.qdivision.com, but isn't officially out until next month. I haven't gotten around to ordering it myself, but I really liked the 5-song EP they released a year or so ago and can't wait to hear the new record. Jase ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:08:21 +1000 From: "Derek McGough" Subject: [support-system] Reversal of fortune Hi all, "Liz Phair" is headed back up the charts, bulleted up from #199 to #197 on the Billboard 200 this week. "Why Can't I?" is up one more spot to #52 on the Hot 100 this week also. Derek ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V6 #285 ************************************