From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V6 #271 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Thursday, October 9 2003 Volume 06 : Number 271 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [support-system] "Don't Apologize" [Jase ] [support-system] Trampoline Records [Easter ] [support-system] Liz show in Amsterdam - part 1 ["Tim Wallyn" Subject: [support-system] "Don't Apologize" Just listened to the studio version of "Don't Apologize" and, as expected, it's pretty damn great. According to the information on the Trampoline Records' site, the song was produced by Liz herself, so I'm guessing it's another one of the touring band demos. It certainly sounds like the product of the same sessions that yielded "My Bionic Eyes," "Love/Hate" and "Firewalker." The compilation the song appears on, _Trampoline Records Greatest Hits Volume 2_, is available for pre-order right now on their site [http://www.trampolinerecords.com] and is set to ship next Tuesday, the day of its release. If you're impatient like I am, though, they're also selling a MP3 download of the compilation, which is available now. It's $4 cheaper, you don't have to pay for shipping, and you get to hear it right away. I still ordered a copy of the actual CD anyway; I can't seem to shake my completist tendencies. Jase ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:42:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Easter Subject: [support-system] Trampoline Records Here's a link to the Trampoline Records Greatest Hits Vol 2 cd that Liz appears on. http://trampolinerecords.com/greatestv2.html Katie (); ) ===== ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ "My love belongs to who can see it." George Harrison ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 01:19:04 +0200 From: "Tim Wallyn" Subject: [support-system] Liz show in Amsterdam - part 1 Hello all, Ten years!!! Give or take a few months, that's how long have I waited to catch a glimpse of Liz. Sometimes it's bad to be European. I first heard her singing Fuck and Run on Studio Brussels in 1993. I first saw her sing that last Saturday in Amsterdam. I'll try and tell this as good as I can. You should put me in that EIG-fan category. I liked WCSE less, thought the Studio Recordings were better. Liked Blood Keeper, Bars of the Bed, Down. I had heard "Why Can't I" on lizphair.com and I had serious doubts. Whether she had lost it or not. Whether to buy the CD or not. And then there was this announcement on the site that she came to Europe. Finally! Should I go see her? I was afraid of being disappointed. It was the perfect dilemma: wanting / not daring. And then on practical level, I had the choice of going to Cologne, to Paris, to Amsterdam or London. Each was at least 250 km away. Amsterdam being the closest and most likely choice, I kept an eye on the site of paradiso.nl. Expecting it to say "cancelled" or something. But it said "An Evening With Liz Phair", Upstairs at Paradiso at 19.30; Jane's Addiction, Downstairs at 21.00; Bassline at 00.30. Doors 19.00, tickets 10 euros. So I looked around in stores here in Belgium for tickets, and found none. About ten days ago I checked the site of Paradiso again, for their phone number so I could call them for tickets. And it stated "sold out"! I called them, asked if it was truely sold out. It was. Had they taken reservations? (So you can buy tickets that don't get collected). They hadn't. So there was really really no way whatsoever for me to get in? There was a short pause. Well, we could put you on the guest-list. That way you get in after all, for free no less... (they asked me not to tell anyone though). I melted then and there. Being the only fan of Liz Phair that I know on a personal level, I stepped into my car alone last Saturday. Far too late, as is my custom, for a 2.5 hour drive. I freaked in traffic at every sign of a traffic jam or of a speed-control automatic-fining-system camera. Jumped into a parking spot, smashed all my coins into the machine, rushed to Paradiso, got there at 18.50, and found closed doors. The scene was doubtful. Paradiso is a large old gloomy granite block near Leidseplein, where tourists mingle with junks. It rained. The people that showed up early on Liz' show were a handful of dark-dressed, grim looking, dread haired Jane's Addiction fans, two grey-haired men in denim (who might have been journalists) discussing whether that notorious album was titled Guys in Mainville or Exile in Mainville, a long fuzzy jesus-type, a guy with a Beavis-smile whispering "wannanytickets?" below his breath, and a few too decent folk. (I'll describe myself on request). The ten minute wait took ten years of my life. And then the door opened. People with tickets (everybody) went left, people on guest-list (me) went right. It took the guy another ten minutes to find my name on the list. And it was only when he did that I got sure of seeing Liz that evening. (to be continued; I don't want this to bounce) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 01:19:43 +0200 From: "Tim Wallyn" Subject: [support-system] Liz show in Amsterdam - part 2 (cont. - part 2) Upstairs at Paradiso is a very nice venue. Old wooden interior, room for about 300 standing, bar back, stage front and a door near it that serves as "backstage". Seats and carpets, candles and other cosy stuff on stage. There were about 30 people that had come in by then. I had just gotten one of those awful Heineken beers when a guy with a large camera put the light up, another guy with a microphone started acting nervously and LIZ PHAIR walked in through that backstage door! She seemed a bit uncomfortable, made-up, adjusting her hair. She walked along the front of the stage with the reporter and a jerky escorting lady. Arrangements were made that the interview would be taken with her sitting on the stage. She really IS 5'2", so cute! Beavis and I got closer to about 1.5 m (the jerky lady eyeing us), still it was hard getting much from what was said. In fact, as she was facing me, I only heard Liz' replies. That she had been in Cologne and Paris on this tour. That the new album was self-titled because it was bery autobiographical. That she liked Amsterdam so far, but hadn't had time to see much of it so far. That "Why Can't I" was about a guy she'd gotten to know at a certain time after she broke up her former relationship. It sounded like a really bad interview. Then she said, "OK, so you'll record the first song and then we'll give you a sign during the show when "Why Can't I" comes up. It'll be last to one". Damn'... Dress for the Listers interested (if I saw and remember right): army green mini-skirt; net stockings; hip-length brown leather boots; a pink top reading "Femmes Arsenal" with shoulder straps; knitted "sleeves" in pink glittery wool. She got backstage again and over the next 15 minutes lots more people started pouring in. The reporter hung around to film the first song, and I asked him who he did the interview for. It was for MTV Holland, but he couldn't say when it would air. He asked if I knew Liz Phair or if I'd just gotten there too early for Jane's Addiction. He seemed puzzled that I'd come especially and only for Liz Phair. I couple nearby had overheard the conversation but asked me to retrace it as it had been in Dutch. They were from Indiana but were living in Germany. They hadn't gone and see her in Cologne, nut as they were in Amsterdam now they didn't mind coming over. They'd really come for jane's Addiction. Tension built as more people got in. There were about 200 when the lights went out and Liz got on stage. To my delight, she got lots of cheers. She first played an acoustic guitar that I didn't know, before bringing that wonderful ivory Fender (?) with the red star on stage. Here's a transcription of the Set List that I got after the show Liz Solo 1 Liz Solo 2 - --- Polyester Bride Johnny Feelgood Extraordinary - --- *GTR change - Liz talk - --- Favorite Red Light - --- *GTR change - Liz talk - --- 6'1" Rock Me Help Me Divorce Uncle Alvarez Perfect World Never Said F n R ---> Why Cant I ---> Supern. Given the magic of seeing Liz, I can't guarantee that what follows is correct. To my recollection, "Liz Solo 1" was "Hurricane Cindy", "Liz Solo 2" was "Stratford-On-Guy". Somewhere, I think just after the first guitar change, she played "Glory". As the show got on, Liz seemed to be enjoying herself more and more. In any case, the show ROCKED! From the first song I was ravished that I had gotten there after all. Man, she hasn't lost one bit of it. I suspect she'll come around any day with a quirky smile and say "Hey you sceptics, you've had it all wrong!". And she'll prove it too. A significant reply she made during the show, when someone yelled "Liz, you wanna beer?": "Hey, I'm workin'!" *GTR change 1 had Liz talking about some coffee shop (she tried for the name and was surprised that nobody knew it; but who remembers the name of a coffee shop?), where her piano player was freaking out that there were signs leading to the fourth dimension everywhere. (He meant the green lights with a figurine runnning for an emergency exit). I think 6'1" got moved to somewhere after "Uncle Alvarez". As they were changing guitars again and her lead player was testing, something went wrong with his guitar. So Liz killed her time by singing "Flower", playing her guitar and being guided by light drums and piano. The rest of the tracks were as stated. Except they didn't play "Fuck and Run". Someone yelled for "Girls! Girls! Girls" and she said "I should relearn to play that one." After "Why Can't I" everybody went off stage. Given the crowd's reaction, it was clear that there had to be an encore. After two minutes they all came back and Liz started gesturing to the band. Then she laughed at her own moved and explained to the crowd that they had secret sign language about which song to play and that they would now do "Fuck -" (hip-shake forth and back) "- and Run" (run in place). Ten years! Then Liz asked if "we all planned to stick around forever or didn't anyone want to see Jane's Addiction?" "'Cause I sure do!" More people yelling, one for "H.W.C.". Liz said "We'll do that one after this one!" And they played "Supernova". And then "H.W.C.". And that was the end of the show. 19 songs, nearly two hours. I rushed to the the backstage-door side and asked a labeled person if Liz would come and sign stuff (like the four CD covers I had in by back pocket). It was obvious that I was talking English to a Dutch employee of Paradiso, who replied that she probably wouldn't. I asked her if I could have that Set List at least (thinking of you Listers). Then I got back and waited en masse for another awful Heineken. Meanwhile Jane's Addiction were about to be kicking off, and I followed the herd downstairs. I numbly got to talking to a friendly Scot, but talking became impossible as great waves of sound started to roll in. And then I spotted Liz in the crowd. I waved goodbye to the Scot, then elbowed to the other side. She was with her lead guitar player and a beefy crew guy. It was nearly impossible to talk to anyone at that moment, and quite frankly I felt perfectly content to be standing next to Liz and enjoy the show. Appartenly, she's quite fond of Jane's Addiction also. When the noise sort of settled, I leaned over and yelled "Congratulations on your show!" into her ear. She tiptoed "Thank you!" back. The answer to "So how's the European tour been so far?" was "Yes, we're touring Europe!". So I just yelled "Don't wait another ten years to come back" and she kind of nodded as another wave of noise came over the crowd. By the way, Jane's Addiction were great. (So was yelling into Liz Phair's ear, and having her yell into mine). At the end of the next song I was going to propose to get four beers, but I heard Liz ask if they wouldn't look for somewhere to sit. So they went off. And I was left with Jane's "Sex Is Violence". I did,'t feel bad at all that I never asked her to sign those CDs (though I had thought of it). Or that she had mistaken me for some impressed Dutchie who had happened to catch her show, but didn't even know who Liz Phair was. After the show (and before Bassline started) I got back to the car, drove all the way back with the Mt. Holyoke bootleg on, arrived in Ghent at 2.00 and partied with a birthday-celebrating friend 'till 8.00. I had a very cosy Sunday afterwards, and beautiful days ever since. It's hard to describe how good I feel. But nothing can really touch me. Nothing is bad at work, no one annoys me. The rain doesn't disturb me. Nor does the cold. And I'm not tired. Thank you, Listers, for keeping me informed about what Liz does in between bringing out a few albums. And providing me with a bootleg and studio recordings now and then (Dennis, Jase, Roberta, Tiffany, Ken)! I might have checked out if it hadn't been for you. So I owe this good feeling to you. Tim NP: comeandgetit EP ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V6 #271 ************************************