From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V6 #247 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Saturday, September 13 2003 Volume 06 : Number 247 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [support-system] the legendary "borrow" list... [Catherine Molanphy ] Re: [support-system] pitchfork pre-ejaculates pixies (very little liz content) [TitleTK@] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 03:00:00 -0400 From: Catherine Molanphy Subject: [support-system] the legendary "borrow" list... > From: Kate Stewart > Speaking of the Pixies, I recently heard Head On for the first time, and what > do you know: > > "Makes you wanna feel > Makes you wanna try > Makes you wanna blow the stars from the sky" > > Anybody ever notice that? FYI, the Pixies' version of "Head On" is a cover of the original by The Jesus & Mary Chain. I've actually never heard the Pixies' version, and I only recently had the J&MC song put on a mix called "Hipster 80's" for me. > And has anyone compiled a list of songs she has "borrowed" from, especially on > Girlysounds? I started one, a long time ago, but I lost it. :^( We can try again... As you pointed out, Kate, there's: Chopsticks -- "Chopsticks" Do You Love Me? -- "Do You Love Me?" by [I forget] and "It's In His Kiss" by [maybe Little Eva? someone help me out here... I know that Cher's version was a cover] Hello, Sailor -- "I'm A Little Teapot" Slave -- "Head On" by Jesus & Mary Chain, as well as "Bubblegum" Fuck Or Die -- "I Walk The Line" by Johnny Cash Whip-smart -- that song by Malcolm McClaren... someone tell me the name again? Is it Double Dutch? Wild Thing -- "Wild Thing" by The Troggs And here's a few you didn't mention: Bars of the Bed -- "The Star Spangled Banner" by that guy who wrote it Black Market White Baby Dealer -- "My Bonnie Lies Over The Ocean" Can't Get Out Of What I'm Into -- [this is my own private theory, but] "Blessed" by Simon & Garfunkel Fantasize -- "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away" by the Beatles Go, Speed Racer -- "Speedracer" television show theme song I'll Get You High -- "Flinstones" television show theme song Miss Lucy -- "Miss Lucy Had A Steamboat" Russian Girl -- borrows from some 1970's song the name of which escapes me, as well as the artist... help! That's The Way I Like It -- "That's The Way (Uh huh uh huh) I Like It" by ? That's all I can think of right now... I'm sure there's many more that maybe we don't even realize. If any of you can think of any additions / alterations, give a holla! - --Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 03:31:08 EDT From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Subject: Re: [support-system] the legendary "borrow" list... In a message dated 9/12/2003 2:53:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, catherinemolanphy@earthlink.net writes: That's The Way I Like It -- "That's The Way (Uh huh uh huh) I Like It" by ? KC And The Sunshine Band. Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 08:47:56 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Valerie Subject: [support-system] a moment for JC; buy this album! by now, you'll all know that johnny cash went to spend eternity with roseanne last night. you probably already took a moment for the man in black...take another one, right now. i wonder if years from now, people will be this affected when say, jason mraz dies. really...does anyone have true cultural icon potential anymore? if you're even remotely a luna fan, or even if you're not, run, don't walk. and pick up the side project by dean wareham & britta phillips, "l'avventura." it's simply beautiful, i've been unable to stop listening to it since i bought it earlier this week. one review i read described it as "music to fall in love to" *sigh*. it has a madonna cover *and* an obscure doors cover, and it's the first album i've bought in a long time that i don't expect to get sick of, ever. buy it. oh yeah, liz content...my friend who burned me a CD from that FTP server that had the EP tracks, etc., confided to me last night that she listens to it all the time and has become a big fan of the live tracks. yay! this decaf sucks... valerie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 09:42:06 -0400 From: Dan MacDonald Subject: [support-system] Head on kate stewart wrote: Speaking of the Pixies, I recently heard Head On for the first time, and what do you know: "Makes you wanna feel Makes you wanna try Makes you wanna blow the stars from the sky" it's actually Jesus and Mary Chain - the Pixies were covering them :) :) :) as far as the pixies thing goes - i heard about this a few months ago but it was all just rumour stuff. what i'm worried about is the status of the Breeders. kim is tooooo good to just be a bass player, and regardless of any ties that have been made between the two - i think black francis/frank black/charles thompson is still too stubborn to give her any more than back up vocals and bass. i'd be nice if the pixies were a sonny and cher act - but that's just not them. wouldn't be them. i also highly doubt we'll ever see an album, i don't know why. i just think the two are waaay too unpredictable/unreliable. a tour they could pull off. an album....shit..imagine the risk of disappointment? and whoever said the thing about pixies paving the way for throwing muses was cracked. however, i totally think the pixies are the BIGGEST influence in bands like the White Stripes, Modest Mouse, some Nirvana. and of course - THESE bands are considered the "greatest" rock and roll bands this side of jesus - so of course pixies get some notoriety for that. i know people deny it and say there is NO similiarity, but i don't care. i have ears and i hear it. it's like the people who say "Oh no! P.J. Harvey doesn't sound a THING like Patti Smith." of course she does. listen to Redondo Beach by Patti and then Good Fortune by PJ or Kimberly by Patti and, well - anything by PJ. I'm not saying PJ rips her off, but there is no denying an influence. just like tegan and sarah and ani difranco. tegan and sarah sound just like her on the first album. i was almost wondering why there wasn't a fucking lawsuit. and the biggest of all. Avril Lavigne and Liz Phair. hahahh just kidding........!!!!!!!!! dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 09:48:23 EDT From: TitleTK@aol.com Subject: Re: [support-system] pitchfork pre-ejaculates pixies (very little liz content) In a message dated 9/11/03 9:34:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sgriffes@umich.edu writes: << And goddamnit why does every stupid indierockboy say that Pixies paved the way for altrock while totally denying (the almost-all-girl) Throwing Muses' influence?! >> Saying that The Pixies paved the way for anything including the Throwing Muses or even Nirvana is utter stupidity. But in my mind, comparing The Pixies and Throwing Muses is going to get you nowhere. I still listen to both groups fairly religiously and I think Throwing Muses are just fantastic but are just not in the same league as The Pixies. The way Frank Black and Kim Deal's voices blend together always reminded me of Ella Fitzgerald and Louis Armstrong, and their songwriting was so intense without ever loosing its humor. That being said, I think The Pixies music is slightly cold which allows people to hold it up for praise much easier. Throwing Muses can get much more emotional and pointed which makes people downplay it (as they do Liz Phair). Ultimately The Pixies had more of a major influence on songwriting and performing as we know it, while the Throwing Muses were interested in something much more personal. james ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V6 #247 ************************************