From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V6 #199 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Sunday, July 27 2003 Volume 06 : Number 199 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Bounced message [owner-support-system@smoe.org (by way of Jase ] the new face of Support System ["Chris DeLisle" ] Re: the new face of Support System [LilRussianGirl@aol.com] Liz on VH1 [Jase ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 02:03:01 -0400 From: owner-support-system@smoe.org (by way of Jase ) Subject: Bounced message From: pat flynn Subject: help me marys please To: support-system@smoe.org i am in montreal. and i saw an ad for jason mzraz or whatever. and i was wondering if liz was going to be at that same show, and i tried calling the box office, but they didnt know what i was talking about. so does anyone know if liz will be in montreal, too. if anyone knows, is anyone going? thanks for responding. take care pat ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 03:06:35 -0400 From: "Chris DeLisle" Subject: the new face of Support System re: Apologies to the rest of ye, but I have to take this opportunity to climb and claw and DROOL all over the likes of Catherine, Mr. Over Pavement (if that IS your real name), Sean Murdoch, Jeremy, and Dana P. I'm sorry if I left anyone out. You guys are DA BOMB: dignified, sassy, high-browed, relentless, and adorable. this makes me want to puke. Catherine, i'm not including you in any of this because i think your responses have had the above adjectives. dignified? high-browed? <> relentless, maybe. i'll give the lot of you credit in that you're tenacious. re: it's sad, bordering on pathetic for an intelligent, late-30's single mom to settle for getting boned by dumbass videogame-playing goobers and yet, if you were in your late-30's, and boning some twenty-something babes fresh out of college, it might be pathetic...but still, you'd be having sex with some hot, young, nubile women...hmmm.... someone had mentioned that they wanted to know why some people actually consider the songs "good." i thought of doing it, but what would the point be? it wouldn't matter what i say. you'd find cracks in my responses and tear me to shreds. i'll agree that "Why Can't I" isn't the best choice of a single ~ and actually, i prefer the video to the song, which is odd. i don't think "HWC" is the greatest song in the world, but why it emits (?) so much vitriol in a number of individuals on the list is beyond me. if you don't like it, you don't like it. fine. to go on and on about it is belaboring the point. outside of those two, i like the album. it's not her best album, but i enjoy it. if you tack on the 5 EP songs, it's a 19-song album with a lot of decent songs. and why you pinpoint Liz Phair's interviews for ridicule is beyond me. these aren't works of literature. how rare is it that Liz gets asked a question that you hadn't heard before? if you had to give 100 interviews where approximately the same 5 or 10 questions were asked of you, how revelatory are YOU going to sound? how sick of the interviewing process would YOU be? and what satisfaction do you get ridiculing Liz over and over again? why are you even here? did you see this mailing list and say, "ah, finally i get my chance to shit on Liz Phair!?" is that your raison d^etre? yes, everyone should have some constructive criticism flung their way ~ but i haven't read anything "constructive," at all. re: I mean, it's only the soundtrack to our lives. Jeremy, if you had only degraded yourself to read past my line that you so artfully used in your response, you would have read that it was more of a tribute to the Support System Digest, that a lot of people have invested their time here over the last five years between albums. not a lot of the people i mentioned in my post have been talking much around here. i wonder if they're as sick as i am in all the negative posts that have sprung up. chris deLisle ok guys, start flinging your shit ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 03:17:32 -0400 From: "Chris DeLisle" Subject: the new face of Support System re: Apologies to the rest of ye, but I have to take this opportunity to climb and claw and DROOL all over the likes of Catherine, Mr. Over Pavement (if that IS your real name), Sean Murdoch, Jeremy, and Dana P. I'm sorry if I left anyone out. You guys are DA BOMB: dignified, sassy, high-browed, relentless, and adorable. this makes me want to puke. Catherine, i'm not including you in any of this because i think your responses have had the above adjectives. dignified? high-browed? <> relentless, maybe. i'll give the lot of you credit in that you're tenacious. re: it's sad, bordering on pathetic for an intelligent, late-30's single mom to settle for getting boned by dumbass videogame-playing goobers and yet, if you were in your late-30's, and boning some twenty-something babes fresh out of college, it might be pathetic...but still, you'd be having sex with some hot, young, nubile women...hmmm.... someone had mentioned that they wanted to know why some people actually consider the songs "good." i thought of doing it, but what would the point be? it wouldn't matter what i say. you'd find cracks in my responses and tear me to shreds. i'll agree that "Why Can't I" isn't the best choice of a single ~ and actually, i prefer the video to the song, which is odd. i don't think "HWC" is the greatest song in the world, but why it emits (?) so much vitriol in a number of individuals on the list is beyond me. if you don't like it, you don't like it. fine. to go on and on about it is belaboring the point. outside of those two, i like the album. it's not her best album, but i enjoy it. if you tack on the 5 EP songs, it's a 19-song album with a lot of decent songs. and why you pinpoint Liz Phair's interviews for ridicule is beyond me. these aren't works of literature. how rare is it that Liz gets asked a question that you hadn't heard before? if you had to give 100 interviews where approximately the same 5 or 10 questions were asked of you, how revelatory are YOU going to sound? how sick of the interviewing process would YOU be? and what satisfaction do you get ridiculing Liz over and over again? why are you even here? did you see this mailing list and say, "ah, finally i get my chance to shit on Liz Phair!?" is that your raison d^etre? yes, everyone should have some constructive criticism flung their way ~ but i haven't read anything "constructive," at all. re: I mean, it's only the soundtrack to our lives. Jeremy, if you had only degraded yourself to read past my line that you so artfully used in your response, you would have read that it was more of a tribute to the Support System Digest, that a lot of people have invested their time here over the last five years between albums. not a lot of the people i mentioned in my post have been talking much around here. i wonder if they're as sick as i am in all the negative posts that have sprung up. to the new face of the Support System Digest, i would sure love to hear you say all of this, personally, to Liz ~ chris deLisle ok guys, start flinging your shit ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 14:19:01 EDT From: LilRussianGirl@aol.com Subject: Re: the new face of Support System In a message dated 7/26/03 3:15:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, cdelisle@teleweb.net writes: > that a lot of people have invested their > time here over the last five years between albums. > Five? umm.. I think it's been more like, uh, eight? nine? maybe ten..... (how long *has* it been, Jase?) ... or maybe it just seems that long... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 16:50:43 -0400 From: Jase Subject: Liz on VH1 Someone just sent me this private message on one of the message boards I post at, and I was wondering if anyone else happened to catch this show? Also, does anyone know if this will air again later? If so, maybe someone could record, encode and upload it? > hey jase- > > i just wanted to tell you that i was watching vh1 this morning, > and noticed that liz phair was being interviewed in a show. > (it was some some sort show that showcased artists videos, but > interweaved it with interviews of the artist..). she was talking > about being a mother, and her role in her the music industry > today, and (most notably) her collaboration with the matrix, and > the allegation that her new stuff was "too poppy". i didnt catch > all of it, but i thought it might be of interest to you since i > noticed you were in the liz phair thread in the courtney forum, > and seem to be single-handedly battling the idiots. anyway, i > just wanted to give you a heads up.... ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V6 #199 ************************************