From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V6 #61 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Monday, March 17 2003 Volume 06 : Number 061 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Liz Phair @SXSW ["Michael Worrell" ] Re: new album news/self-titled [robert joyner ] song title [Kate Stewart ] Re: support-system-digest V6 #60 [Stephen Griffes ] the Liz interview - round 2 - part 1 [Kenneth Lee ] the Liz interview - round 2 - part 2 [Kenneth Lee ] Re: support-system-digest V6 #60 [Jase ] new liz single ["Mike Katsoulis" ] Re: new liz single [Jase ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 02:21:38 -0500 From: "Michael Worrell" Subject: Re: Liz Phair @SXSW Thanks for the article, Myron! Now, about that article: I'm not sure what to make of the opening line; moreover, this is arguably one of the more unsettling things I've read on ECP in a while. Admittedly, I haven't read much, but some of the HSTish fear and loathing (make that a non-specific unease) burbles about. Last time I checked, I like Liz Phair's production and songwriting team to be "Liz Phair". This Matrix thing is unnerving, and so is this new title: For some reason, I've got this image of the "new" Liz Phair popping into my head, a marketing effort as if she's someone who just now crawled out of a recording exec's bed and hasn't ever recorded before. As Goofy is fond of saying, "Something wrong here..." Anyone else not exactly sure what to make of it? That picture's er, um, nein commente. I miss the young Liz. Boo to the bird who wrote this article; in her attempt to, oh, forget it. That song title, along with all the discussion of it is just not good. One cannot capture the days of "Flower" if one is past that time, and my confidence in this album is spiralling downward. Not good, not good at all. Michael NP: Well, nothing. Certainly nothing by the Dixie Chicks, apology or not. Nitwit. "You think you know what I'm doing, so obviously you don't."---Aeon Flux ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 02:25:34 -0800 (PST) From: robert joyner Subject: Re: new album news/self-titled - --- Dan MacDonald wrote: > also - did i read incorrectly, or does she really > have a new song called > "White Hot Cum"??? > holy shit. "provocatively titled" is the > understatement of the century. > once again - i'm intrigued as hell. i still wanna > know how many tracks, For some reason that song title makes me think "Spinal Tap" for the female singer songwriter set, almost a self parody of her former greatness circa Exile In Guyville. Ken said a new song was called something like "Rock Me All Night" which remarkably sounds like "Tonight I'm Gonna Rock You Tonight". Maybe during the tour she will do a cover of "Big Bottom" "Bitch School" or "Hell Hole". Blehhh. Robert ===== - ------------------------------------------------------------ Nashville - A Liz Phair Web Site http://www.geocities.com/robnashville - ------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:26:08 -0800 (PST) From: Kate Stewart Subject: song title White Hot Cum!!!!!!! That's my girl, oh baby.... Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:35:20 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Griffes Subject: Re: support-system-digest V6 #60 >"A lot of people who stay indie are very much 'us against them' and caught up in what's cool and what's not. Why paint yourself into a corner?< ummmm say again? hopefully that seemingly nonsense quote was outta context. probably was since the interviewer didnt seem to like liz too much. steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:38:50 -0800 From: Kenneth Lee Subject: the Liz interview - round 2 - part 1 Hi folks, Lots of questions have been raised in the past few days. Hopefully, some of this Q&A will answer them... Ken: Hi Liz. Liz: Kenneth. I just got back from SxSW -- literally 10 minutes ago. Ken: Will any of Michael Penn's work be on the new album? I have heard rumors that "Take A Look" and his other productions won't be on the album? True or false? Liz: Yes, five Michael Penn songs will be on the new release, showcasing what I think are some of his best productions. We weren't trying to oust Michael, we were trying to get radio songs from the Matrix and I also wanted to represent material from other sessions from the past four years: stuff with R. Walt Vincent (Pete Yorn), and even earlier recordings enginerred by Doug Boehm featuring live takes of my whitechocolate touring band. Michael's work is the most represented, with 5 songs, Matrix weighing in with 4, touring band demos at 3 (with extra prod. by walt on two of those (new vocals, guitar)), and pure Walt on 2, thereby reaching the grand total of 14!! yes, folks, 14 tracks chronicaling the journey of four years intermittent recording! Put a couple bucks in, you really shouldn't miss it. There are so many great tracks that didn't make the record simply because the record was skewing toward the 'rock' side of things and I wanted to make it a 'piece', but I have always had every intention of including more personal, complex and depressing material through the website to reach longtime fans who will give it the time and consideration it deserves, while trying to bring out a smart, outspoken rock record through the label that can travel commercial conduits. It makes perfect sense to me, I don't know what everybody is getting their knickers twisted about. You can wear a suit out and still come home and put on your sexy, worn-in sweats. Ken: Is the album still set for a May 22nd release date? Liz: No they pushed it to June 24th. Which ticked me off because I found out May 20th was this guy I like's birthday and I thought that was rather auspicious. But Capitol needs time to do things the right way and I appreciate their considering how to do things well, and not just blast out of the gates with a generic major label push. Which can be as hurtful to an artist as no push at all. Ken: I just visited lizphair.net / lizphair.org and it mentioned that the new album will be released in the summer. Are you still working on the album? Liz: The album is mixed and mastered, but I am ultra-thinking little things like time between songs, which master version to use, things you really don't need to know about but things I have micro-managed for as long as I have been making records. You have to realize, the songs on the disc are my choices, feel very liberating to me. almost half are technically demos. Okay, part 2 is next. I want to make sure this post doesn't get too long and bounce... - -Ken kenmlee@ix.netcom.com MeSmErIzInG - AnOtHeR LiZ PhAiR WeBsItE http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/2471/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:16:51 -0800 From: Kenneth Lee Subject: the Liz interview - round 2 - part 2 Okay, Part 2 of the Q&A... Ken: How did the video for "Down" take place? Will the song eventually be released? Liz: Instead of answering this, let me tell you that we just shot a video for the song Extraordinary (track 1) which isn't even the first single and so many people kicked in and donated their time and talent that it felt like oldschool DIY and was so cool. I had some performances in there in which I really felt connected to the song, it felt like singing the lyrics, the emotions were being ripped out of me and it was very powerful. Ken: Will you be re-releasing the EP "Juvenilia" in the near future? Liz: Doubt it. if we rerelease anything, it will be Guyville at Christmas, remixed by Brad (his idea) for a ten year anniversary, hopefully with bonus material (pictures, girlysound, interviews). P.S. SXSW: Saw the tail end of Michael Penn's set, never seen him live and he blew me away. He'd been crabbing that he wasn't rehearsed, didn't know what to play. Don't believe it. He has such on-stage charisma and powerful vocals and beautiful guitar sound. I had no idea. Also caught: Thorns Daniel Lanois (sp?) Ritchie Havens The Stills The Rapture Spy Mob The Datsuns missed, and was pissed about it: Cameron Mc Gill (sp?) Ended up hobbling away from the Friday night Datsuns show at 1am in cruel, cruel, Christian Louboutin oxblood, patent leather, 3 1/2 inch heeled, toe-cleavage pumps. By the time I was back at the hotel, I was barefoot. And that's round two. Hope some things were answered... - -Ken kenmlee@ix.netcom.com MeSmErIzInG - AnOtHeR LiZ PhAiR WeBsItE http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/2471/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 00:15:58 -0500 From: Jase Subject: Re: support-system-digest V6 #60 steve wrote: > >"A lot of people who stay indie are very much 'us against them' and >caught up in what's cool and what's not. Why paint yourself into a >corner?< > >ummmm say again? hopefully that seemingly nonsense quote was outta >context. probably was since the interviewer didnt seem to like liz too >much. The only thing that was flattering about that piece was the photo they ran with it, so it wouldn't surprise me. I did stumble across a more encouraging write up at the MusicDish Industry e-Journal site. The direct link to the piece is http://musicdish.com/mag/?id=7762. Scroll down until you see the "Phair's Fare" heading. Also, former list member Steve Kisko sent me a link to another article about Liz's appearance at SXSW and suggested that I pass it along. The URL is http://neumu.net/dailyreport/2003/2003-03-14/2003-03-14_dailyreport.shtml. It describes a couple of the new songs in greater detail that any of the other pieces have. Jase ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 23:15:24 -0600 From: "Mike Katsoulis" Subject: new liz single just read this off the rope: <> mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 00:45:34 -0500 From: Jase Subject: Re: new liz single Mike wrote: >just read this off the rope: > ><"Why Can't I" by Liz Phair going for adds on April 28>> Thanks for passing this along, Mike. I guess I'd better get to work soon. I'm planning on redoing the mailing list site from scratch. One of the things I wanted to incorporate was a list of radio stations, along with their phone numbers, Web site and e-mail addresses, so those who are so inclined can request the song and hopefully ensure it'll get some airplay. I don't suggest that we all bombard these stations with requests; if we did, it'd be a tipoff to them that this is an organized effort to get Liz some airplay. But if we were to be moderate about this, it could work. I'll post a link to the page with all the radio station info as soon as it's completed and uploaded. That may be the first thing I do for the site revamp; that way it'll be online in time for when the single is shipped to radio. Mike, have you come across any word of a commercial release for the single? Jase ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V6 #61 ***********************************