From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V6 #8 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Wednesday, January 15 2003 Volume 06 : Number 008 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: support-system-digest V6 #7 ["chris w" ] i can't believe it's not.... ["dana p." ] Liz & me at Sundance! [carrma@WellsFargo.COM] Liz involved with filmfest [robert joyner ] only stars can dance on the sun [Dnce7Veils@aol.com] and another thing... ["dana p." ] Hot Damn!!! ["Katie Brown" ] hot damn indeed [LilRussianGirl@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:41:04 +1100 From: "chris w" Subject: Re: support-system-digest V6 #7 > From: Dermich@aol.com > Subject: Whee > > Still don't know how to tell y'allz or Liz this, but as someone has already > mentioned, May 22 is a Thursday. Records almost 100% universally come out on > Tuesday. > The original release date was May 27th. But the money runs out on the 22nd so that's when the album comes out. Liz could have picked Tuesday the 20th, but those two extra days of production are really needed. well that's my guess :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 09:23:56 -0800 From: "dana p." Subject: i can't believe it's not.... hey all: WOW! a liz sighting.... how cool. obviously, she's still got her wit about her; i never doubted for a second that that was an imposter. too sly. that's her. anyway, i'm not surprised *at all* she's "concerned" about money. so what if a couple of her records went gold? the only time a recording artist ever has shitloads of money is when his or her record goes platinum, baby. [i saw sheryl crow on "60 minutes" the other night. you should really see what a few platinum records can get ya.] our liz isn't in those leagues, but she wants to be, which, of course, is her prerogative. that's why she got a SAG card, remember? if i'm not mistaken, commercials pay way better than making records. more money for less work: tah dah. well, it's good to hear our girl isn't a desperate, washed-up has-been, like alot of us were afraid of. if anyone's got the smarts for outsmarting the dumb-down music machine, it's her. and her tactic--killer lyrics encased in hooky music--is her trademark. she's been doing it for years. but, like she said, the truly impressive stuff is gonna be leaked and the more accessible, "predigested" stuff will appear in sam goodys everywhere. whatever. we all know we're gonna get out hands on all of it anyway. viva la liz! dp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 11:03:15 -0700 From: carrma@WellsFargo.COM Subject: Liz & me at Sundance! //After the presentation ceremony in Park City there will be a special performance by Liz Phair.// Wow! I'm going to Sundance this year for a few days--I may be there in time for this performance. I'm not sure if I'll be able to get in to this concert, but I'll keep you posted if I spot Liz! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 10:32:30 -0800 (PST) From: robert joyner Subject: Liz involved with filmfest http://www.smff.com/advisoryboard.html Found this link on the net. Looks like Liz is having a little more fun in film arena. She is on the advisory board for the Santa Monica Film Festival that is coming up in Feb. I checked out the site, they don't have the films listed there yet. On a side note, reading over the Liz e-mail one word kept coming to my mind: rationalization. Liz: (paraphrasing) They think I'm playing the game, but I'm covertly subverting it. Actuality: you're playing the game. And there's nothing wrong with that, just be honest about it. Some of my favorite groups totally whore themselves out to corporate rock machinations, but at least they've made peace with it. Robert ===== - ------------------------------------------------------------ Nashville - A Liz Phair Web Site http://www.geocities.com/robnashville - ------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 15:53:54 -0500 From: Dnce7Veils@aol.com Subject: only stars can dance on the sun alas. i decided a few days ago at the last minute to go to sundance and THEN i found out about liz playing and was sooooooooooooooo excited.........only to find out that that event is invite-only. non-famous losers need not apply. sigh. *e ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 13:33:29 -0800 From: "dana p." Subject: and another thing... oh, i forgot to say this: jase, i totally understand what you're saying about "feeling kinda bad now" about expressing doubts about liz (especially now that we know she really hasn't lost her mind), but on the other hand, she doesn't sponsor this site. i think in that case there would be a problem. to me, anyway, this list is at least as much about the people who post on it as it is about liz herself. not like i'm a big expert, but, comparatively speaking, i think list this is fantastic. some others i check into are just so stupid i can't even believe it (and it's doubly baffling because the artists themselves aren't idiots; i don't know what's going on there). this list is as good as the people who post. god knows i wouldn't have a single clue about new music if it weren't for people telling us all about what else they're listening to these days. on one of these other sites i check into, people make these incredibly juvenile, insulting (tho' they don't realize it), and utterly ignorant comments--and it's **on the guy's own site!!!** now, to me, that's really out of line--and i said so, twice. and then, of course, i got blasted for pointing that out, 'cause that's "causing trouble." it was like "twilight cyberzone" or something.... really unbelievable. so, no kidding, i finally had to quit checking in--it was making me insane. anyways, reagarding *this* list, i've always enjoyed reading everyone's insights; i've learned alot. OK, toodles for now, dp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:19:31 +0000 From: "Katie Brown" Subject: Hot Damn!!! She rocks and she knows it. I think that's what floors me about this email - -- she KNOWS it. after Down, and the obvious pain she was going through with the divorce and the move to Malibu, "I made myself stand up and leave, and turn my back on your hollow pleas..." and how that "pain of it [made her] older"... she'd older, wiser, yet the same spunky and hard-core Liz we knew and loved ten years ago when Guyville came out in '93. there's always been that sweet insecurity too, the stage fright ala '94-95 ... she's so damn ON to herself. she knows. "spitting in the face of 'no you can't'." just like she always has. >>>There seems to be a small furor going on about release dates and evil production couplings, and all I can say is, really, no REALLY, don't worry. <<<< now where did she get on to said "furor"? here? Now I'm not going to lie... wcse was no Guyville, but it still kicked ass and was worth the wait. i have confidence in this next album and whatever has evolved. man. i have so much more to say. Craig and Jase and all my lounge-axers, i am here... i read every digest, and much like two days ago, i often try to copy and paste and reply to certain texts and it all gets procrastinated out to nowhere. i had such a huge reply planned two days ago and it just didn't get done. someone asked who else was in Chicago -- and I am -- but i can't remember who what where or when. that's what happens when i cut and paste digests in attempt to reply. and yes ken -- i'd love to pass on a message to her. first in order is a thank you, congratulations, and major, major *~*~*~goodvibes~*~*~*. i'm totally still here and i miss all of you... and i wish i could say more... later .. later... KB ... and your girlfriend too <(:D _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:01:16 EST From: LilRussianGirl@aol.com Subject: hot damn indeed Hey All: Well, Lounge Axers, International Club extrordinaire, I am still here too. If she's touring, let's do it again. I am soooo excited to see that the new album may finally be on its way. I have to look for a job this summer and was thinking yesterday how I hope that doesn't cut into seeing Liz perform ....Ahh, priorities. Jase mentioned being critical - I think that most of us have been critical, disgusted, or disillusioned, etc., at some point -- c'mon -- it's been four years since WCSE and almost 10 since EIG. That's a long time to analyze and discuss 3 (albeit magnificent) albums and all of her other ventures. And honestly, if Liz is reading the list now, let's all just be glad that it's now and not before. We may have scared her had she read it back when posts were brutal or analyzed her outfits and shoes...j/k. =) - -Janet ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V6 #8 **********************************