From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V5 #253 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Friday, December 6 2002 Volume 05 : Number 253 Today's Subjects: ----------------- liz dictionaraoke [robert joyner ] "Top Ten" / "Take A Look" ["Jeff Doak" ] Top albums list ["Chris DeLisle" ] Coming Out of Hiding [carrma@WellsFargo.COM] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 04:17:05 -0800 (PST) From: robert joyner Subject: liz dictionaraoke here is the link to the liz phair fuck and run singing dictionary song. just paste in your browser. http://dictionaraoke.mirrors.gweep.net/music/Liz_Phair-fuck_and_run.mp3 ===== - ------------------------------------------------------------ Nashville - A Liz Phair Web Site http://www.geocities.com/robnashville - ------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 09:14:37 -0500 From: "Jeff Doak" Subject: "Top Ten" / "Take A Look" I'm going to contribute to the top ten, but my list consists of top CDs purchased this year. Most are not from 2002 as I'm really unhappy with the music thats been coming out the last few years. Phish - Billy Breathless Farmhouse Hoist Junta Lawn Boy Picture Of Nectar Rift The Story Of The Ghost Rasputina - Thanks For The Ether The Darkest of the Hillside Thickets - Let Sleeping Gods Lie The Beatles - Abbey Road Echobrain - Echobrain Megadeth - Rude Awakening Nazareth - Homecoming Oysterhead - The Grand Pecking Order Looking forward to: New Liz, New Metallica, New Phish (due this month), New Nazareth, Past Phish, Past Nazareth. I'm looking forward to completing a couple collections. :) As far as "Take A Look" goes, I like it. For now. I like it because it's Liz. I like it because it "rocks." I like it because I can hear her voice during the verses. I don't like the chorus - it's plain and monotonous. I don't find it to be that catchy, and it sounds like every other female "rock" song on the radio. Is she even singing during the chorus? It sounds like backing vocals were brought in to cover her up. Who is that!? I know that voice! Which is what I think the record company is trying to do. Leave her alone during the chorus to make the current phans happy, but cover her up during the chorus to make it more appealing to the teeny boppers. I can see it now. The CD will come out, and the credits will list guest appearances by Michelle Branch, Avril, and others. So the question is, will I still get a craving for this music five years from now like I do with the rest of her stuff? It's hard to tell, but probably not. I am, however, looking forward to hearing it *live* - without the record company "magic." j. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 12:48:06 -0500 From: "Chris DeLisle" Subject: Top albums list #1 -- has to be Wilco's "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot." quite possibly one of the five or ten greatest albums of the last 25 years, i think. i got a chance to see their movie "I Am Trying To Break Your Heart" and i wish they'd release those versions of the songs, too, some day. the rest (in no particular order): Sleater-Kinney -- One Beat ("Step Aside" might be my favorite new song of the year) Mary Timony -- The Golden Dove Elvis Costello -- When I Was Cruel Rush -- Vapour Trails (their hottest record in years) Bob Mould -- LiveDogs 1998 Bob Mould -- Modulate The Who -- Live Encore Series, Aug. 23, 2002 @ the Palace in Auburn Hills, MI Godspeed You! Black Emperor -- Yanquoi U.X.O. Honorable Mention (because it was released in 2001) must go to The Shins' "Oh, Inverted World," as i picked up on it early this year. i must have listened to that album a hundred times or more during the year. again, one of the absolute greatest albums of the last 25 years. i was a bit disappointed in Beth Orton's "Daybreaker" and Beck's "Sea Change." "Sea Change," though it had a few decent songs, is no "Mutations." likewise with "Daybreaker" -- it doesn't come close to her first two records in my estimation. i'm looking forward to picking up Bob Dylan's "Live 1975 -- Rolling Thunder Revue" record (soon), Liz's upcoming release, and Radiohead's. finally, anyone ever listen to The Slumber Party? i've been meaning to pick up one of their albums, too. any experts out there? chris deLisle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:25:29 -0700 From: carrma@WellsFargo.COM Subject: Coming Out of Hiding It's good to finally see some new Liz material out there. I don't think "Take A Look" is all that bad nor a huge departure from her previous work--I think "Down" is further away from Liz's other work than this song. "Take A Look" is definitely more like WCSE and Whipsmart than Exile. The song structure and melody has enough Phairisms to quell some of my fears about the producers she is working with. That said, I agree that lyrically it's more of a lightweight track and the production is more apparent. So where do all these delays come from in releasing a Liz Phair album? It doesn't appear to be from lack of material--over a year and a half ago she had about 35 songs kicking around. Are these delays coming from Liz or the label? Or both? Whatever the source, it sounds like there is to be tons of unreleased songs from the various sessions and collaborations when and if "An evening with..." (remember that possible title?!) is released. Man, if we were so lucky to get another unofficial collection like the WCSE Sessions covering all the new stuff--it could fill 10 discs! Well, a boy can dream.... My list top albums of 2002: 1. Sea Change - Beck 2. Alice - Tom Waits 3. Blood Money - Tom Waits 4. Smofe + Smang: Live In Minneapolis - Mike Doughty 5. The Rising - Bruce Springsteen 6. CQ [Soundtrack] 7. No! - They Might Be Giants 8. Last DJ - Tom Petty 9. Hard Candy - Counting Crows 10. A New Morning - Suede I would put Bob Dylan's new Live 1975 album as #1 but as it was recorded 27 years ago, it hardly seems sporting. - --mike ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V5 #253 ************************************