From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V5 #173 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Sunday, September 8 2002 Volume 05 : Number 173 Today's Subjects: ----------------- shiny bauble ["dp" ] nashed-ville [Dan MacDonald ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 10:50:55 -0700 From: "dp" Subject: shiny bauble hey steve: thank you for confirming that interp of "nashville." in fact, your laserlike insight is truly awesome. [and then i have to ask: did you get confirmation from interviews she did or do you just know?] in any case, WOW, amazing.... i'm glad you said it. question on the title: is it from the robert altman film? that's what i've always thought, anyway. it fits: bullshit hysteria (??) i always thought it was cool that it "sounds" like a "relationship" song, but (again, thanks) that "shiny bauble" line is a dead giveaway that she's really talking about herself--as an artiste. i remember thinking (man, that was so long ago!!), "tricky...!" but that's our liz of yore.... well, now we all know for sure; "slick divide" is pretty easy to figure out, but, i have to say, all this time i wasn't 100% sure i was on the right frequency for the whole song. now it's all the more hearbreaking.... if that's even freaking possible. i *cannot believe* she feels so torn between doing stuff that's more polished and "acceptable" and just being satisfied, artistically, with her own thoughts and ideas when she's got such mind-blowing writing talent. hmmm, so i think it's fair (har!) to say she psyches herself out.... probably the aloneness. having to stand alone as.... a talent, for one. talk about mind-blowing. anyways, hope everyone's ok dp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 14:50:30 -0400 From: Dan MacDonald Subject: nashed-ville steve wrote: >It's amazing that, after all these years, during which Liz went on record >naming "Nashville" as one of two songs on Whip-smart in which she allowed >herself to write about "what it felt like to be the next big thing [in the >alternative rock world]", the implications of this song are still apparently >out-of-reach for so many fans. i don't think it's all that amazing that fans interpreted the song as romantic, unless they did indeed read the article in which liz goes on record. how would one know otherwise? i mean, unless you hear it from the horses mouth, or it is blatantly obvious - you can never get inside an artists head and KNOW what they are writing about just by reading the words (which in this case, even though she is referring to something particular, they are not blatantly obvious) the lyrics (when placed in either context - liz's critical acclaim or a possible relationship) fit in to either category, even if it wasn't liz's intent. and it's not like liz is the kinda singer who never writes about relationships - so i don't think it's all that ridiculous for fans to assume "i won't decorate my love" is a rule of thumb for future relationships. i never read the article where liz interprets this song - and i've been a big fan since 93! :) guess i need to do more homework - or that one slipped through the slick divide...haha nice seeing the name steve kisko again by the way!....it's been a while hasn't it?? *sigh* reminds me of the old days - we just need that mr.ed dude now - (that's a joke!) anyway - i'm still gonna consider nashville as a good ole "single and lonely and drinkin whiskey on a rainy afternoon day" kinda song.... ;) sorry liz! dan NP - Le Tigre - "les and ray" ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V5 #173 ************************************