From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V5 #169 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Sunday, September 1 2002 Volume 05 : Number 169 Today's Subjects: ----------------- the slick divide ["dp" ] Re: support-system-digest V5 #168 [Talula0474@aol.com] Re: support-system-digest V5 #168 ["DarkSide oftheMoon" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 23:6:1 -0700 From: "dp" Subject: the slick divide here's my take on that: first, I think she's talking about the wall(s) between her and other people. the divide. we all have one (or several). but for alot of us, this so-called divide is indeed "slick"; if you're in any way sensitive to the vibes of others, you constantly pick things up. sometimes you know more than you want to. for various reasons. sometimes we don't want stuff to leak out onto others. we need our walls; they help up get through life. but you can't go through life untouched. you get "touched" when things, feelings, thoughts, etc., seep through the slick divide. it's a *quote-unquote* wall. (then there's the part where life takes a nice big sledgehammer to your little wall, but that's another song; bonus points: guess which one.) plus, put your divide up against someone else's. it's not gonna be solid to solid. a change in matter will occur. things get sticky. and then you let it--or not. tah dah. that's one of my favorite songs of all time. --- dp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 08:39:15 EDT From: Talula0474@aol.com Subject: Re: support-system-digest V5 #168 slick divide seems to be superficially sexual..but when she says, I don't crack the door too far for anyone....that's superficially sexual, too, but I think she's talking about actually allowing herself to fall in love with someone honestly and without pretense. really pretty stuff :o) "naked half awake about to shave and go to work"--loving the ordinary, not just the bauble. the humanity of the guy. the literary masters student's take on the subject Alice ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 10:45:42 -0400 From: "DarkSide oftheMoon" Subject: Re: support-system-digest V5 #168 In reference to the slick divide, I always thought in the strictest terms that the 'slick divide' was an old (1920's 30's?) term refering to asphalt being laid down...in other words a strip of highway or a road dividing up land, a ribbon of road splitting the land in two....but with liz ya never know... DarkSide oftheMoon _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 18:20:16 -0400 From: Dan MacDonald Subject: nashville here's my interpretation of nashville... i think (one aspect) of the song is about finding that "perfect someone"...the kind of person who is JUST right, (usually - it is someone who is in someone else's relationship and the two people just click perfectly) . like when you see a couple and everything looks soo perfect between them, even the little annoying things about each other, are kind of a treat to each other...and you think "Shit..i wish i could find someone like that - where everything just clicked..." but the truth is, you can't find it by searching it out - it just has to happen - even though so many people "THINK" they find the perfect someone, but they are only chasing something that isn't theirs..i'll break down the lyrics how i see them... >They don't know >What they like so much about it >They just go >For any shiny old bauble >And nobody sparkles like you... the search for the perfect person. you can't "go" for someone like this (this perfect)- if you do - you are just going for something that looks good - because there is no way to search for the perfect someone - it just has to happen....*sigh* how romantic... >But I can't imagine it in better terms >Than naked, half awake, about to shave and go to work... >And I'm starting to think it could happen to me like it did to you >And I'm starting to actually feel it seep through the >Slick divide now again - watching that perfect relationship from afar - perhaps "starting to think it could happen to me like it did to you....seep through the slick divide..." - i think this is reference to the person she knows who is in the perfect relationship, she is kind of talking to them, telling them that maybe she is falling in love and it's the same great thing... the "slick divide" - i think - is just like... poetry on liz's part. the slick divide, like a wall that was put up preventing her to have a healthy, real relationship - or the ability to let someone into your life...but this time it is seeping through this divide, because it is starting to happen... >I don't crack the door too far for anyone who's pushing too hard on me again - reaffirming that she is not one to "go for any shiny bauble" - she doesn't fall in love at the drop of a hat, she has walls and barriers up around her - but for this person, perhaps she IS cracking the door a bit to let someone in... goes along with the slick divide thing... >They don't know >What they like so much about it >Maybe it goes on the other side of the hallway, >The writing's so small from here... perhaps the cluelessness of people searching for mr. or mrs. right?? the bliss of being in a great relationship?? the mystery of what the hell makes a relationship work? you can't tell what does until you are in one - and even then, there really is no secret recipe....i don't know...but it sounds damn pretty... >But I can't imagine it in better terms >Than naked, half awake, about to shave and go to work ... >I won't decorate my love (x 6) she won't decorate her love. she won't go for any old shiny bauble. she has an image in mind of what the perfect relationship should look/feel like - but she can only imagine it for now. it didn't happen yet. until then - the search is still on, but she's not gonna go for someone who just "looks" good...she's deeper than that... she wants REAL AND RAW love - without all the superficial decorations... or something like that...i don't really think it is sexual at all..i think it's sad, pretty and romantic... and of course, i could be completely off.. i always thought of Whip-Smart as such a fantasy album though..more like the going-ons inside liz's imagination.. think about it... the imaginary story in Chopsticks, when she tells this guy a bunch of lies about fucking backwards, and knowing julie roberts...but it was all in her head...in reality she goes home alone and doesn't do a thing with him because SECRETLY she's timid.. there's Whip-Smart - where she talks about how she would raise her son (she didn't even have a kid yet in 1994!) - it's more like her wishing from far away thinking "Oh....if i ever had a son...this is how it would be...." there's May Queen..which i think is about secretly admiring a really close friend from afar... i dunno... maybe i'm totally off...but yeah..that's that. bye.. dan ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V5 #169 ************************************