From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V5 #158 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Wednesday, August 21 2002 Volume 05 : Number 158 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: No new album !!!!!!???????!!!!!!!! ["Brooke, Robert" ] [none] ["Brooke, Robert" ] liz mention in sleater-kinney interview [Dan MacDonald ] re: advance "news" [Jase ] touring with boys [Stephen Griffes ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 07:10:21 -0500 From: "Brooke, Robert" Subject: RE: No new album !!!!!!???????!!!!!!!! Sherly, I would say both. On the last album "All Hands on the Bad One", it kinda got a little poppy like something that Liz would do. Before that it was somewhat harder. Guitars where dirtier and the vocals would dominate your mind. They use Tremolo effect on their Guitars that makes me melt. Enough of that state of being. I hope that I gave you a little insight on Sleater-Kinney. For some reason I feel a little exposed. For everyone else: While we wait for Liz to let go some new material, has anyone heard of Cakelike? Cakelike is not active at this time, but they are a band from New York that I found on the used CD racks a few years ago. The band is a trio of girls that learned to play there instruments by themselves and really got a unique sound. They have three Cds out, and I would say start off with Bruiser Queen (the second CD). Well the new SK comes out today everyone. I'm sorry that this wasn't more about Liz. Robby - -----Original Message----- From: SHERLY McLACHLAN [mailto:lcf3818@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 6:46 PM To: support-system@smoe.org Subject: Re: No new album !!!!!!???????!!!!!!!! Hey Robert, I'll tell you what. You can Kill me. I don't know if I can get through another whole year without new Liz stuff. On another note I've been hearing alot about Sleater - Kinney on this sight. What are they like? Are they heavy like Veruca Salt or like Liz ??? Have a good one!! SMc HotJobs, a Yahoo! service - Search Thousands of New Jobs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 11:48:41 -0400 From: Dermich@aol.com Subject: Re: support-system-digest V5 #157 Here, let me give you some advance "news," so you won't have to keep on wondering for the next couple of years: There will probably be no new Liz Phair album in 2003 either, folks. Just expect it and internalize it. We need to face that we're waiting for an inordinately reticent musician, one who doesn't even have an official website, and one who shows no interest whatsoever in communicating with her fans. It's a fact. Deal with it. Derek ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 13:06:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Andrea Uptmor Subject: re: advance "news" No official website? Egads! Mine ears have been tainted by the sound of a musician who isn't overpublicized! I shall burn my copy of Exile in Guyville! Hey, maybe the reason Liz has withdrawn from the music world is that she has been a lurker on this list for the last couple of years. Realizing that your fans are a bunch of passive-agressive snobs would make anyone lose faith in humankind. I'm only half-kidding. Quoting Dermich@aol.com: > Here, let me give you some advance "news," so you won't have to keep on > wondering for the next couple of years: > > There will probably be no new Liz Phair album in 2003 either, folks. > Just expect it and internalize it. We need to face that we're waiting > for an inordinately reticent musician, one who doesn't even have an > official website, and one who shows no interest whatsoever in > communicating with her fans. > > It's a fact. Deal with it. > > Derek ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 14:23:57 -0500 From: "Brooke, Robert" Subject: [none] Oh my, What have we become, passive aggressive snobs. I feel so dirty, somebody save us. Liz we need your help. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 17:09:45 -0400 From: Dan MacDonald Subject: liz mention in sleater-kinney interview thought this was cool - from the killrockstars website...it was an interview w/ sleater-kinney. >5. In one sentence describe a pattern that you find yourself getting in to >in relationships with other people. Janet: Surrender, but don't give yourself away. Carrie: I get into a pattern that consists of two consecutive right curves, followed by a straight line, followed by three segments, followed by an intersecting line, at which point I make a choice to go up or down, then I am faced with infinity or imminent termination, i choose the latter, then i start again. Corin: "You've never been a waste of my time, it's never been a drag, so take a deep breath and count back from ten, and maybe you'll be alright." (Liz Phair) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 22:10:06 -0400 From: Jase Subject: re: advance "news" Andrea Uptmor wrote: > No official website? Egads! Mine ears have been tainted by the sound of a > musician who isn't overpublicized! I shall burn my copy of Exile in > Guyville! Oh, come on, having a Web site isn't by any means a sign of being overpublicized. Pretty much any artist or band who's signed to a record label (indie or major) these days has one. Hell, most local, unsigned bands do too; as well, many defunct bands still have an official home on the Web. It's not about publicity; those are just the rules of the game these days. The fact is, Liz seems to have so little interest in her own career that she can't be bothered to learn how the music industry, post-Internet boom, operates. She's playing by the rules that were in place when she released _Exile in Guyville_. Things have changed. Besides, Liz is hardly any stranger to being overpublicized and she's certainly not above it either. Do none of us recall the countless television and radio appearances and interviews she's done over the years? Or opening for Alanis Morissette and playing on the Lilith Fair tour for two years in a row? There's also her modelling stints, the Apple and Gap ads, the Calvin Klein billboards... > Hey, maybe the reason Liz has withdrawn from the music world is that she > has > been a lurker on this list for the last couple of years. Realizing that > your > fans are a bunch of passive-agressive snobs would make anyone lose faith in > humankind. Realizing that other fans of yours make retarded, uninformed generalizations about people they don't even know would do it too. People who make such generalizations also come across as "snobs," since their opinions make them sound like they think they're better than everyone else. Jase NP: Courtney Love, "But Julian, I'm a Little Older Than You" (who wants to bet Courtney will have a new release out before Liz does? Or does asking that make me a passive-aggressive snob?) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 23:41:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Griffes Subject: touring with boys >> i would love to see liz on tour with a male...<< well, every time i've seen liz she's been on tour with an all-male backing band (save for the backup singer)? i mean, i know you're talking about an opener or whatever, but it was just funny to read that because she usually does tour with mostly males. i saw dolly!! she was fabulous and sounded wonderful, played great, and was so hilarious. I'm going back to chicago in sept to visit all the kids i met and see marianne faithfull! such a diva year, this is. now that is who i'd like to see liz on tour with a double bill. it could be called "Ladies who shocked the music world by saying the 'C Word' Tour" :P went to a bar that had WhipSmart in the jukebox. :) heard Love is Nothing on Spinner indierockgirls station :) steve ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V5 #158 ************************************