From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V5 #93 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Tuesday, May 7 2002 Volume 05 : Number 093 Today's Subjects: ----------------- burn out ohio...non-liz [Dan MacDonald ] Liz related Cherish stuff ["Steve Rhodes" ] Re: support-system-digest V5 #90 [Athiena00@aol.com] dont keep attack dogs of LA in the basemant [Athiena00@aol.com] thanks [Athiena00@aol.com] not about liz, about kweller ["overpavement" ] re: overpavement [robert joyner ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 01:48:47 -0400 From: Dan MacDonald Subject: burn out ohio...non-liz yay for cinco de mayo! I can't believe i forgot!! I was so hammered last night too - so it all worked out. hey - sorry to bog the list down with this crap but does anyone happen to have the chords for the Mazzy Star song Halah? I've been searching all over and can't find them. They can't be hard - but I'm a second (possibly fifth) rate guitar player and I need all the geetar-self-help-manuals I can get my un-calloused fingers on. I just learned Belly's "Full Moon Empty Heart" and I'm very pleased with myself, so I'm on a buzz now. (The damn thing is only 4 chords anyway - god bless the easy songs!). Also - one more request..if anyone knows the chords to Helium's XXX - i'd really appreciate that too...* Hey are any detroiters (or other invisible windsor people) going to see Sarah Dougher at the end of the month @ magic stick? I think The Gossip is playing with her too maybe? and another fantastic band or two...should be GREAT i'm waay excited. i'm out, laters dan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 06:29:53 +0000 From: "Steve Rhodes" Subject: Liz related Cherish stuff Since someone asked, I didn't get to see Cherish at the SF Film Fest. I'll have to wait another month. But I did meet Finn Taylor at the closing press conference. He was a judge for the Skyy Vodka prize for best first film. One of the films in competition I did see, CQ which opens may 24th, may appeal to some folks here. http://www.mgm.com/experiencecq/ I told Taylor that there was a lot of discussion of the film on this list and people who had seen it at festivals had posted reviews of it. He said he say Liz a few weeks ago when she came in to do ADR (additional dialogue recording). He does think she is interested in doing more acting. He said she was nervous and didn't think she would do a good job, but ended up liking her performance. He said music was an important part of the film, so it was good to have her in it. And that the Whipsmart stuff was an inside joke. And then he went to have lunch with Bai Ling (who I think is Chris Issak's girlfriend - she was on his Showtime show) and some other people. And I went on a tour of the places Vertigo was shot in San Francisco. - ----------------------------- Steve Rhodes http://www.well.com/~srhodes contributor to http://www.tvbarn.com http://www.tvbarn.com/docs/- Docs on TV - -- http://fastmail.fm - Get back to work ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 13:59:09 -0400 From: Athiena00@aol.com Subject: Re: support-system-digest V5 #90 umm.. yes. i had the hello album. and i sold it because i didnt like it. and NO....i didnt even listen to haunted...the cover art was too cheesy for me. besides. i would never write anything as boring as a poe song. so no, i am not mad. i just dont like her. and i am entitled to that. thanks. athiena < Subject: Poe sucks? / Leno file... Just wanting to know the basis for the "Poe sucks" thing... And how exactly is her music not original? In my opinion she ranks right beside Liz and Tori. Anyhow - that was a really interesting post, claiming that she "SUCKS!!" and "she is just not original or anything" without anything to back it up. If you think Poe sucks, thats fine, but you don't have to be so forward... it's an opinion, not a fact. Have you even listened to "Hello" or "Haunted", or are you just mad for some reason? Let me guess, you wrote the entire "Haunted" album first in your mind... she just beat you to the computer to record it? That was harsh, but I'm too lazy to backspace... So I apologize. So what is it that you think "SUCKS!!" about her anyway?>> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 14:04:07 -0400 From: Athiena00@aol.com Subject: dont keep attack dogs of LA in the basemant trent. obviously any sort of witty comments are lost on you. okay. lets spell this out. no. i wont spell this out. i have gap clothes too. i was trying just to illustrate that Poe is a posuor that has no fan base and most likey has a family member in the music corporation world....the only way that icould see that she could get a record contract. this is my opinion. warning. blah athiena < Subject: RE: my silly tongue with some liz phair tea time comments. ....could she be one of those girls that secretly started shopping at the GAP after seeing Liz Phair do a commercial? Just wondering, though none of this should be discussed on a Liz Phair mailing list (and I realize I'm too at fault for even responding but I couldn't let the suggested GAP jab go unmentioned) Trent (who thinks that shopping at the GAP doesn't make you pathetic)>> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 14:12:29 -0400 From: Athiena00@aol.com Subject: thanks rick, dan, and andrea yes. i am glad that you all see what i see in poe as well. maybe i will pick up haunted. after Hello i wanted to stay as far as possible awya from her. thank you for being intelligent and empathetic. ta ta athiena ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 22:57:23 -0400 From: "overpavement" Subject: not about liz, about kweller just to show that not *all* my posts have to be prickly and negative, i wanted to ask if anyone else on this list has heard the ben kweller cd, 'sha sha'? he's just one of those people who can just knock out great rock and pop songs with his eyes closed, i swear. he's a huge fan of evan dando (whose own hard-to-find but awesome 'live at the brattle theater' is one of my favorites of the last few years), if that tells you anything about his musical tastes and style. 'sha sha' which came out in march of this year is worth searching out if you like, say, the lemonheads or todd rundgren or maybe even pete yorn. there's a version of 'my drug buddy' that ben does that you can find on winmx, which is live and solo. but 'harriet's got a song' and 'walk on me' and 'wasted and ready' and 'falling' and 'no reason' are awesome songs. the whole cd is worth hearing. if you don't like his website at www.benkweller.com, then you might not like him anyway. but then again you might. or visit http://www.atorecords.com/artists/bk/default.asp anyway, just a suggestion. i have no association with the guy and don't care if anyone does or doesn't give him a listen. i just think his disc is worth hearing. o ps: ok, i'll save *someone* the trouble of saying it and just say it for them and beat them to it: "i fucking hate ben kweller! he sucks!" there. someone already said it... :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 20:45:21 -0700 (PDT) From: robert joyner Subject: re: overpavement overpavement wrote: ps: ok, i'll save *someone* the trouble of saying it and just say it for them and beat them to it: "i fucking hate ben kweller! he sucks!" there. someone already said it... :) yeah, ...I haven't heard any of his album but I went to his site and the album cover art was kinda cheesy, therefore his album really sucks musically. I'm so glad for cover art, that way i don't have to bother with all that music and stuff. robert ===== - ------------------------------------------------------------ Nashville - A Liz Phair Web Site http://www.geocities.com/robnashville - ------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V5 #93 ***********************************