From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V5 #89 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Thursday, May 2 2002 Volume 05 : Number 089 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Various ["Michael Worrell" ] :o) ["Katie Brown" ] non-liz - kristin interview [Dan MacDonald ] poe [Athiena00@aol.com] Re: poe (NO LIZ Content) [p T h R r E e N a T k Subject: Re: Various Jase, any idea why that bounced? As far as I know, I'm subscribed under this exact address, and posts from here go through on another smoe list. Dana. that's one of the reasons RS is still worth reading from time to time. My old quasi-Buddhist 60s-retread philosophy prof in undergraduate complained once that RS was "no longer about the music", but more about a lifestyle, and I think it was one he didn't agree with. He must have read it when Jan Wenner was not the Establishment RS claims to loathe. VH-1 or someone said a few years ago that the guy who offed himself was messed up to begin with, and that the goings-on regarding the TNMC album plus other interpersonal things kind of made the guy believe in no hope. Or something. Am I being "negative" on her? I dunno. Probably so. There's just something annoying about an artist who appears on all kinds of albums, hobnobs with the Clintons, and runs around playing that whole celebrity game of "Look at my new fashions" or "Look who I'm hanging out/working with..." Of course, maybe this is why I like Liz Phair in part; she doesn't go around putting herself all over the media world. That's nice. Meredith, you may or may not know this, but there's some error in the Tennessee quarter. I think it has to do with the number of strings on the fiddle. Made a minor fuss back when it got released; don't know if it will be fixed. Rob, the question of botox is one I'd rather not consider. Ack. The entire Kristin Hersh thing is funnier than hell. Those aren't the words I'd use to describe the two of them, but still...it's amusing. The suggested tracklisting for the new album was a good one as well. Michael "You think you know what I'm doing, so obviously you don't."---Aeon Flux ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 16:11:28 +0000 From: "Katie Brown" Subject: :o) >>>Wow, look at all of the people who have been posting to the list lately! Imagine, if Liz put out an album, we'd go back to the days of two-plus digests a day! :) - - -Ken <<<< :o) i felt the same thing... it is nice to be back. i have met one of my best friends in the wolrd whole on this list -- Lani -- and when my boyfriend and i were visiting her in NYC a few weeks ago everyone was asking us how we met and we would tell the story about the support system digest and meeting at that private Liz show on 11/30/98. allison... :) ken lee do you still have that promo flat? (is that a rhetorical question?) also now that i live in chicago i end up seeing the (former) lounge ax all the time! the diner where jorge bought me a tuna melt across the street after he, jase, craig and i watched liz's sound check through a tiny crack in between two flyers int he window :) ahh the memories. i don't think i am considered one of the "oldies" i started in august 1998... i found some old digests that are hilarious! i never stopped reading. :o) lani can't wait to watch the sheryl and liz tape with you mem day weekend! miss you all.... and dp my posts have been all scrunched together too.... ? >>>>"Soak Up The Sun" is not a funny song in the least bit (that's not what >>>>i'm striving at), but i thought it was excellent the first time i heard it. i thought it might be the one original Sheryl Crow song that i loved. it DID have a "Phair-ish" sound to it. it sounded quirky in a way Liz normally can be.<<<<< i agree chris -- it was VERY Liz imo. i know nothing about sheryl.... but THAT was a Liz-inspried song if i have ever heard one. (late 90's liz, not early 90's liz) later kittens KB _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 13:19:22 -0400 From: Dan MacDonald Subject: non-liz - kristin interview cool interviews - i know they are on good terms with everything - and they're even working together again- but has anyone ever noticed any kind of tension (could be mistaken for jealousy, perhaps) between Kristin and Tanya Donelly? Some of the interviews gave me that vibe... I kind of have to disagree with some of what Kristin said with regard to her music and how it fits in to other music. It's very original - yes - completely and totally and I love it - but I've always loved the poppiness of it. It's fun, it's smart, it's intelligent and it's catchy. You can dance to it and it sticks in your head. I just thought it was funny how she was really quick to point out how poppy so many bands are (Belly, Sugar, Nirvana) - and hers just isn't. She just struck me as a little bit condescending at times - maybe a little bit of a music snob - but hey - nothing wrong with that I guess. It made me kinda second guess how i used to listen to the band though - when she said that it never even felt like Tanya was her partner in the band - and she only "allowed" Tanya to put a few of her songs on each album, even though they really didn't fit in..etc. For me - Tanya's presence in the band, backing vocals - even her guitars - REALLY made me like the Muses. I don't care too much for albums like University etc, after Tanya left. I thought there was a ton more energy within Muses, when Tanya was a part of it. Kristin as a solo artist on her own - is another thing altogether. Much MUCH MUCH better than post-Tanya Muses, they kinda seem like she was finally set free from being locked into a band - a band that REALLY lost something after Tanya left. I'm sure the same can be said about any band who has one defined front-person, but I always tried to think of Throwing Muses as more of a "Sleater-Kinney-esque band" (where they feed off each other) than a "Pixies-kinda-band" (where Frank Black had all the say, regardless of how FANTASTIC Kim Deal was, or how much she added to the sound). Anyway, that's my 2 cents - sorry to bog the list down with this off topic stuff - steve - i shoulda sent this to yer swooning loons list!!! see ya, dan NP: BREEDERS - "TITLE TK" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 16:23:45 -0400 From: Athiena00@aol.com Subject: poe Poe SUCKS!! no wonder no one came!! does she have family in the music business or something. she is just not original or anything. ta ta athiena <> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 13:40:38 -0700 (PDT) From: p T h R r E e N a T k Subject: Re: poe (NO LIZ Content) Please keep your ridiculous comments to yourself and OFF the LIZ PHAIR mailing list. If I were as rude as you I might say somthing like "Atheina SUCKS" but since I'm not I won't trent Athiena00@aol.com wrote: Poe SUCKS!! no wonder no one came!! does she have family in the music business or something. she is just not original or anything. ta ta athiena > - --- "elitism leads to fascism" -- alec empire Yahoo! 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