From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V4 #189 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Sunday, July 22 2001 Volume 04 : Number 189 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Bounced message [owner-support-system@smoe.org (by way of Jason Long ] (off-topic:tanya donelly) [RbSayre@aol.com] producer ["overpavement" ] Ladies & gentlemen, the "Six Feet One" tab ["steve kisko" ) Subject: Bounced message From: "Grey Productions" Subject: Re: support-system-digest V4 #186 I heard the breeders have a new ablum does anyone know where I can find tour dates? I saw that someone posted about a show that didn't go to ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 09:35:50 -0400 From: rickilake@juno.com Subject: Blake Babies (no liz) Hi all, I went to see the Blake Babies at the Bowery last night and wanted to give a shout out to the listers who were there covertly. They were very good, but seemed a little lackluster. Played most of my favorites and Evan Dando came on for one song. Great time had, good music, fun crowd. I was surprised to see such a range of age groups. I guess there are still first generation fans out there and the youngins who got into them backwards from solo careers. Oblig. liz content - still a large CK ad with Liz over stairway in Penn Station. Almost fell down stairs because of it. - ---melissa ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 10:18:52 EDT From: Jeska377@aol.com Subject: skinny puppy- non liz Hey if there are any Puppy fans on the list (such as yours truly) I just wanted to put the word out that they are reuniting for a tour next year.... Just thought all you industrialites (if any) would like to know! Piss oUt Jessica ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 14:09:36 -0400 From: Dan MacDonald Subject: liz phair/tanya donelly Ken wrote: >The label choosing Liz's producer sounds like >a bad thing. Does this mean Liz has no say >in who produces her? Yikes..I agree - that is sort of scary... I hope this won't be another case of good artist-put to waste by record company. I'm gonna say this now and I don't even care - I wish Liz was still on Matador. PS - Steve - or anyone - what is Tanya Donelly up to?? Is she working on anything at all, solo or otherwise??? Dan. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 15:07:04 EDT From: RbSayre@aol.com Subject: (off-topic:tanya donelly) I've been wondering the same thing myself lately. Sad to say that Lovesongs for Underdogs appears to be out of print. A huge shame as far as i'm concerned because it was an amazing album. Anyway- i checked out the web & found this site: Stew's -Tanya Donelly- Site in the news section they had the following update from June: After two extensive mixing stints in Boston during March and April, Tanya Donelly's new record - her first since "Lovesongs For Underdogs" in 1997 - is finished. The final versions of the twelve songs arrived in the 4AD office this week, and they sound fantastic. Artwork is being designed and plans are being hatched at the moment - more news, and a title for the record, when we have it ! Anywho- It got me to wondering what's going on with the Gorman bros. as well. I miss Belly/Tanya and can't wait for this album... peace, rick listening to: ivy/long distance television. turkey sandwiches. let the okay times roll. let's face it kids... rick's page ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 17:14:45 -0400 From: "overpavement" Subject: producer ken wrote: > The label choosing Liz's producer sounds like > a bad thing. Does this mean Liz has no say > in who produces her? usually, a label gives an artist a list of maybe 5 producers to choose from, and they have to decide which one would be the one most sympathetic to their songs and strengths. the classic story on this is how XTC selected todd rundgren from a short list of producers, delivered a classic record ('skylarking'), but hated his guts and trashed him in the press for years. i think there's now a truce and they seem to regret some of their more negative comments. but, despite turning out a great album, they hated the experience while it was occurring. this list had a running thread going for a while about who would be a good producer for liz, and there were some interesting choices in those messages. it'll be interesting to see whom she ends up working with. steve albini? (that's a joke, of course, but you never know...) o ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 22:18:13 From: "steve kisko" Subject: Ladies & gentlemen, the "Six Feet One" tab Due to overwhelming consumer demand, I'm passing on my highly anticipated 6'1" tab. I imagine it'll relieve, confound, and annoy all of you in equal measures. Thanks to Ray Lew for the method. Before I go, let me just say that Liz hasn't made more than a handful of what I feel are wise business decisions on her own in the past 5 years, so if her label is doing her thinking for her (by discouraging Brad Wood as producer), maybe it'll turn out okay. Things couldn't get much worse at this point. Enough about that now; back to 1993: 6'1" by Liz Phair Intro: E B A riff 1 E B A riff 2 E B A riff 1 E B D* A D A G I bet D A G You fall in bed too D A G easily with the beautiful D A G girls who are shyly brave D A G and you sell yourself as a man D to save F C but all the money F* G* in the world is A# D A G not enough D A G D I bet... A G you've long since passed D A G understanding what it D A G takes to be satisfied D A G you're like a vine that keeps D climbing higher F C but all the money F* G* in the world is A# D A G not enough F C and all the bridges F* G* blown away keep C* floating E B A up...... (riff 1) ........it's E B A cold.... (riff 2) .........and E B A rough..... (riff 1) ........and E B A I ... kept standing six feet E B D* A one..... instead of five feet E B D* A two......and I loved my E B D* A life..... and I hated you! riff 3 (x3) riff 4 (x2) g yeah! C* D (back to intro) E B A riff 1 ............it's E B A riff 2 cold.....out there and E B A riff 1 rough........and E B A I kept standing six feet E B D* A one.....instead of five feet E B D* A two...and I loved my E B D* A life..and I hated riff 3 you! (repeat to finish, like 8 times, and end on E) Chordical and riffical notations: E B A D* D G F C F* G* A# C* g e|----0--0------------------------------3--| B|-9--0--0------7-----------------3--5--3--| G|-9--8--6--11--7--4--2-----3--5--3--5--4--| D|-9--9--7--12--7--5--3--2--1--3--3--5--5--| A|-7--9--7--12--5--5--3--3--3--5--1--3--0--| E|-7--7--5--10--5--3--1--3--1--3--1--3--0--| riff 1 e|----------| B|-4--2-----| G|-4--2--1--| D|-4--2--2--| A|-0--0--2--| E|-0--0--0--| [play the first 2 chords of this riff with your third finger only, as if you were playing an A-shape barre chord, but without the barre] riff 2 e|--------------| B|--------------| G|--------------| D|--------------| A|--------------| E|-0-2/3-4/3-2--| [this bass-note riff is played kind of arpeggio; you can kind of fake your way through it, but listen to different recordings where you can actually hear Liz's guitar to get the right rhythm. Oh, and the -- ahem -- "forward" slash is a slide, of course.] riff 3 e|----0--1--| B|----0--1--| G|-1--2--2--| D|-2--3--3--| A|-2--0--0--| E|-0--0--0--| [I'm not sure about the 2nd chord of this riff. When Liz plays it, the second part *looks* like some kind of variation on the F chord, the 3rd chord notated here.] riff 4 g C* G e|-3--------| B|-3--5-----| G|-4--5--4--| D|-5--5--5--| A|-0--3--5--| E|-0--3--3--| One other note: Obviously, during the intro, chorus, and pre-chorus ("It's cold...), the B & A (E-shape) barre chords are played as notated, like semi-open barre chords (with the e & B strings played open). During the verse chords, however, the A (E-shape) barre chord is not played this way. It's played like the G chord, from which we do not hear any open e & B strings. Certain rhythms and techniques, like the B/D slide on the chorus and any between-chords open notes, are fairly obvious and not notated here, due to a combination of laziness and ineptitude on the part of the tabber. Listening to solo electric performances (like those from the April '95 tour) is the best way to pick out such nuances. If you have any questions or are confused about any chords, riffs, or my method of tabbing, PLEASE don't hesitate to ask. Enjoy! - -Steve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V4 #189 ************************************