From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V4 #185 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Wednesday, July 18 2001 Volume 04 : Number 185 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Breeders show... [Dan MacDonald ] Re: support-system-digest V4 #182 [Kaufmann@IPFW.EDU (Kaufmann_Mike)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 15:26:48 -0400 From: Dan MacDonald Subject: Breeders show... Steve - details on the Breeders show if you went!! They played "Bragging Party"!!! That is my fave AMPS song...and I am floored that they played it...and jealous as hell!! Also - how are the new songs?? Details Details!! Dan. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 18:25:45 -0500 From: Kaufmann@IPFW.EDU (Kaufmann_Mike) Subject: Re: support-system-digest V4 #182 Thanks for confirming my suspicions on the video locale. I thought after I wrote that it must be a Chinese new year's parade as well. I wonder if the mall is somewhere near Liz's new digs (Manhattan Beach?). Considering the subject of the video, the new year's parade seems significant--new beginnings, ponderings of the future etc. Mike > greg wrote: > Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 07:03:22 -0700 > From: g bishop > Subject: ID on locations in "Down" video > > >images on the video. I assume they're most likely an L.A. or So.Cal. location (an > >amusement park? local mall?), but I guess that isn't necessarily the case. In the > >opening we see signs with dragons and Chinese writing, which also might be > >helpful. There's a sign later that at about 2:31 that says Hop La.... something, > again with a chinese roof shape next to it. Anybody see anything familiar? > > I live in L.A., and the images didn't seem familiar, but there is a "Hop Louie" restaurant in Chinatown. I'll have to look at it again.... > > Just did. There is a long shot of the parade thingy at 13.3 secs that shows LA City Hall. Probably the sequence was shot during Chinese New Year festivities (duh.) The buildings Liz is walking around at the beginning are part of a mall that I go to every few weeks to patronize a noodle restaurant there. The restaurant Mike talks about in his post IS Hop Louie's and the scene at 2:40 is a big wishing well-type thing that's around the corner from that. This is the last image in the video as well. I can make out one of the signs in the wishing well that says "MONEY." Below it is one of the little metal dishes that you throw coins at (or into, if you're lucky.) I think the one above it reads "LOVE." > > "You've got to have shitloads of money"--and love too, if you're really lucky. > > This would mean that it was shot on February 10, which was the date of the parade. I don't know where that "SHOPPING MALL" area is located. > > > Maybe Liz likes Chinatown?? I'll have to keep an eye out for her. Anyone know what recording studio she's using? > > Greg B. > > PS I'm still looking for someone to give me info on the Phairities CD and Sessions at West 54th (?) video. I wasn't even lurking when that was going around the list a few weeks ago. > > - -- > _________________ > > Those born in hope are a gentle breed > Putting their hope into fire > Daring to watch longer than others > And not being torn away by disarray > Watching and with their hearts > Creating the sun > > - --Dr. Mario Pazzaglini > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 16:07:38 -0500 > From: "Allison" > Subject: Another Liz cover > > So on Friday I went to the Hideout here in Chicago to see my friend's band (The Wes Hollywood Show) and the opening band, Applecake, > closed their show with a kick ass version of Fuck and Run. This must be tribute to Liz month. The two cover experiences (I saw > Robbie Fulks do 6'1" a few weeks ago), along with the video for Down, have definitely reawakened my interest in the music of Ms. > Phair. I had begun to lose faith... > > Allison > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 17:25:33 EDT > From: NegSplitz@aol.com > Subject: Re: The Long, Uncertain Road.. > > Even though I don't know Jason, I can't help but almost feel that he was sort > of eulogizing Liz in a way..Nice essay..A sad note to it though, as many of > us have also given up a bit a hope for, at least: 1) some new music; 2) an > appearance or two: and/or 3) the patience to reflect on a great artist maybe > in the throws of the commercial/corporate recording world.. > When PJ Harvey recorded "Dry" and "Rid of Me" in l991-92 (which had the same > musical impact as Exile), no one would have thought that 10 years later, she > would be opening for U2 in 20,000 seat arenas. And today, contrasting PJ's > earlier songs to her latest LP is like experiencing the same transformation > as with Liz: They are both growing, maturing, creating, and living completely > different lives than in those early days..Both are amazing artists and even > though PJ has gone ahead and is basically a regular on David Letterman and > Jay Leno, she keeps her own individual marvelous self wound up in her > music..It is different, and yet it is the same.. > I think many of us need to allow Liz the grace of time..EIG is over and it > was great. It's funny, but I listen to WCSE more often now...that's just > me...I also wonder whether that "big record company deal" is beyond the > simple, beautiful woman that Jason so aptly describes. > The "wait" is always worth it. > Wes > > ------------------------------ > > End of support-system-digest V4 #182 > ************************************ ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V4 #185 ************************************