From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V4 #180 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Friday, July 13 2001 Volume 04 : Number 180 Today's Subjects: ----------------- The Long, Uncertain Road in Phairdom [Jason Tedford ] i come to ask a huge favor ["kimberly ann" ] YOU ARE INVITED! ["Roper, Catherine E" ] Re: support-system-digest V4 #179 [steever ] coincidence? I think not. [sarah ] on whip-smart [newacct29160@aol.com] Re: The Long, Uncertain Road in Phairdom ["broder daniel" Subject: The Long, Uncertain Road in Phairdom Back in 1993, many of us were mesmerized by an amazing album titled "Exile in Guyville" by a young Chicagoan named Liz Phair. We adored this girl and her guitar, the honesty, the intensity, and God that filthy mouth of hers that seemed to say all the right things. This record was played and played and played, until maybe it was given away to a friend who needed to know, to understand, to feel, and we immediately rushed out to buy it again. We hungered for more, and the wait was not to be long as "Whipsmart" emerged roughly a year later. Never was there to be another "Guyville," but this record was no less wonderous in its genius and beauty. We cheered, for we knew this Phair girl was something special. In the midst of the bland sounds polluting FM radio, we knew there were still those out there making beautiful noise, and Liz Phair might just save everyone. We couldn't wait to see what was next...but that's exactly what we did. We waited...and waited...and waited. As our lives moved forward through the years, a strange thing happened. Our Liz grew up, married, had a child. We all fell in love with the rebelious rock and roller, but Liz Phair never set out to be a rock star. Still, she wore it proudly. Four years later we were blessed with the release of "whitechocolatespaceegg," and it showed us an older, more mature Liz Phair. We were older now, too, and many of us embraced this record. Though some of us did not, there came along others to take the place and join our little ride through Phairdom. Things seemed to be back on track. Liz was touring and selling out shows across the country, and with the rise of the internet, we reached out our hands across the globe and we became, for better or worse, a community. Liz almost immediately began debuting new songs at shows and in the Spring of 1999, Liz began recording again. We couldn't contain our excitement. A new album was already on the way, expected in late 1999/early 2000. After a strong showing over the summer at Lilith, Liz headed home. Except for minor appearances, our Liz would disappear once again. In late 1999 an article appeared in Alternative Press highlighting the most anticipated albums of 2000. Among the class..."An Evening With...," the fourth full-length album by Liz Phair. Happiness abounds once again, but deep down we all know. May 2000: a brief article appears in the Chicago Tribune. Liz hard at work on new album, out by year's end. We hold our collective breath. Oct 2000: Billboard magazine. Liz in LA studio, yada,yada...mid 2001. The Support System grows quiet. We lurk. We find new things to talk about. We go on. In January of 2001, a strange new development. A new film premieres at Sundance "featuring songs by Liz Phair." Our first glimpse comes in a film clip; five seconds of barely audible music, but unmistakeably Phair. Dare we hope for two Liz Phair albums in one year?! We grit our teeth and hunker down. Mid 2001 was last report, but what is mid-2001? March to October maybe? But the Spring pushes forth and all is quiet on the front. April/May 2001: various sources report on Liz's progress. Final sessions almost underway! 35+ songs! Late 2001! Here it comes! Oh yeah, Liz is going to be in a movie so that might delay things, but it shouldn't because she is only shooting for a day. We sigh collectively. July 2001: Mysterious video for unknown song "Down" appears. Support System explodes with speculation and discussion! Where's it from? Is this for real? Could this be the single? Julie Johnson? Alas, answers come and an honest soul. Kind Liz, favor for friend...album "nowhere near being complete." Expect next year. Thank you friend. So what exactly was the point of this. I don't know really. I haven't listened to Liz in a while, but with the emergence of "Down," I've been reaquainting myself, remembering what it is I love about those old songs. Maybe I wanted to revisit the journey. Or simply waste some of your workday if you've read this far. Or just get it into my head (and I guess everyone elses') that there will never be a quick Liz Phair record again. But if there's new kids lurking about, to maybe give a brief showing of what it's all about. Get used to the waiting friends, but it is almost invariably worth it. I was visiting friends in San Diego when WCSE came out and it seems like only yesterday. And Christmas 2001 is right around the corner. Just maybe we'll have that record before we put our stockings away. Jason Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 00:27:50 -0500 From: "kimberly ann" Subject: i come to ask a huge favor hello. i come to ask a huge favor. i am in love with this song by the lead singer of the old band the caridgans. i've only seen the video off of this swedish website and im dying for an mp3 of the song. if someone could please please make an mp3 out of the video. i would be in debt to you forever. my birthday is coming up if that helps. or if someone could just tell me how. here's the link: http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/noje/story/0,2789,62274,00.html thanks in advance kim ann _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 08:06:56 -0400 From: "Roper, Catherine E" Subject: YOU ARE INVITED! ***attention*** LIZ PHEST DC & Baltimore August 9-12 Liz Phans--that means YOU! The group of chicago list phesters from last year (minus a few, plus some new people) have decided to get together again this year and we would like to invite anyone and everyone in the in the dc/baltimore area (or willing to fly in) to come and hang out! The only is pre-req is the love of liz and being on this list already satisfies that, don't you think? Activities include--> Thursday, August 9: visiting monuments in DC and going out for Tapas and hitting the local bars. Friday, August 10: going to baltimore during the day and then for some seafood that night and the grand finale: The Orioles Game!! We currently have 3 extra tickets in our row of seats that we have already bought. (if you are interested, they are about $16 a piece) Saturday, August 11: Radiohead at Bull Run, 2pm in Manassas, VA. This is an already sold out event so we were just hoping that there were other list members already attending that we could meet up with. Then that night we will head back out to DC for some more bar-hopping. Sunday, August 12: Meet up for breakfast before we go our seperate ways. *sniff, sniff* I am going to try and name the people already going but if I forget someone, I *sincerely* apologize in advance... Jorge Lynda Paul Jenni Chris Mark Tommy me! (Katie) If you're not from the area....don't let that stop you! Jorge is coming from TX and Jenni from CA! Hope to hear from you all soon! B-day Katie ******************* "Tell me why are you like this, are you the same with anyone? Save me from my sickness and tell me, why are you like this, why are you like this?" - -Red House Painters ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 08:49:31 -0400 (EDT) From: steever Subject: Re: support-system-digest V4 #179 >He and Dave Barry, Barbara Kingsolver and Amy Tan are in a band together (isn't that a weird lineup?!)< Hehheh, we were talking about this the other night!!! I knew Amy Tan was in the band, but i didn't know dave barry, or barbara kingsolver, who is my hero. i would wet my pants to see them all playin together just saw poe in cleveland last night--im gonna be on mtv!!!! ;) what a terrible terrrrrible thought ;) Steve. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 06:29:22 -0700 (PDT) From: sarah Subject: coincidence? I think not. it occurs to me the other day that while I've seen lizsites that analyze liz's songs according to lyrical "influences" to the mention of boys named johnny...has anyone yet looked at her lyrics and analyzed the amount of lines that have come true (could liz have psychic powers??) here are just a few of the obvious examples: 1. divorce song-liz is now getting divorced 2. "weave my disgust into fame"-she does just that 3. "I'm gonna lock my son up in a tower..."-by all accounts, liz wanted a girl but had a boy instead you get the idea...we haven't had a poll in a long time and I was thinking maybe ya'll could come up with some other more obscure references if there are any... sarah Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 11:27:03 EDT From: newacct29160@aol.com Subject: on whip-smart I was just thinking about the very thing Sarah brought up this week. Liz seems to be pretty good at it, but she's also always revelatory in the field of human emotions. It also reminded me of something I wanted to speak about re: Whip-Smart, the song. I was listening to it this week and saw something new: About the time Whip-Smart the album was recorded, Liz and Jim were just getting to know each other. And he had a son from a previous marriage, and this week I started to think that this song might have been Liz's way of speaking up when she saw how Jim reacted to his son in certain situations. Like maybe she didn't feel she could say, "I think you should do this with him." So with her music and her unique style, that might have emerged through "Whip-Smart" the song. Anyone ever think that about that? paige- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 11:43:22 -0400 From: "broder daniel" Subject: Re: The Long, Uncertain Road in Phairdom Jason, I don't know about everyone else, but that post alone was the little bit of comfort I needed to get me through the wait for 2002. just when I had begun to get tired of it all, between the fights & lack of liz, a whimiscal little bit of nostalgia comes along and makes it all better. thank you. xox - stacy >From: Jason Tedford >To: support system >Subject: The Long, Uncertain Road in Phairdom >Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:25:26 -0700 (PDT) > >Back in 1993, many of us were mesmerized by an amazing >album titled "Exile in Guyville" by a young Chicagoan >named Liz Phair.... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 11:38:06 -0700 From: marzchik@mobile.att.net (erin cashel) Subject: re: on whipsmart um, aren`t you forgetting that liz wrote this way back when? It being on girlysound and all? Erin ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V4 #180 ************************************