From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V4 #175 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Sunday, July 8 2001 Volume 04 : Number 175 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Liz's video is gone?? [LilRussianGirl@aol.com] Liz in Maxim? [Andy Peters ] Re: Le Tigre [Jason Long ] Bounced message [Jason Long ] Bounced message [Jason Long ] Devastated, too, but not in that way ["steve kisko" Subject: Liz in Maxim? has Liz appeared in Maxim magazine recently? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 11:51:22 -0400 From: Jason Long Subject: Re: Le Tigre Dan wrote: >Le Tigre coming to Magic Stick August 20th!! Do you know if they're playing any other shows -- is this part of a tour or a one-off? I haven't been able to find any tour dates online, and I'm kind of hoping they'll come to Toronto, so I'll have a chance to see them. >You have no idea how mad I am!! I am going to Sudbury that weekend for a >cottage/pot smoking/beer drinking excursion with my friends and there will >not be a chance in hell for me to go!! I am SOOO fuckin angry!!! YOu best >be getting some pictures!! I'd say skip going to Sudbury and drag all your friends to see Le Tigre instead. You'll probably have a much better time (although maybe it's just me who finds Sudbury boring as hell). The beer drinking and pot smoking can be saved for after the show. ;) Besides, I have a feeling they won't make it to Toronto, so I'm going to need someone to fill me in on how the show was. :) Ah well, at least I did manage to see Kristin Hersh nearly two weeks ago when she was in Toronto. I guess that's some consolation. Also, apparently Stephen Malkmus will be playing in Toronto in October, according to a post on the Matador bulletin board. Going to listen to "Down" for about the 500th time this week, Jase ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 11:54:36 -0400 From: Jason Long Subject: Bounced message From: Biggerd000@aol.com Subject: the shame of it hangs above me i am very happy that we got to see this new video and hear this wonderful song. i was so dissapointed with wcse and with this wait for the new album (which really irratates me but oh well i do understand) then 'down' enters my ears and suddenly i am in love again. i love this song, it reminds of the whip smart days, but its so autobiographacle(or something like that) infact i hear her and can tell she is goin through pain, as if to say 'honey,what happened? why did it have to be this way, i love you and i wish things could be the way they were' to her husband, and its been since whip smart since i could relate to a liz tune/ i am just very happy with this song. the video is weird, i mean liz looks like a woman that knows herself, and knows what she wants. i guess i get this impression because her look, she just looks like she has it together, though i have been drinkin and do not mean to bore anyone. its been years since i had any style or anything, im the guy that will go to the pub unshavin and dressed in his worst. blah blah blah. i love how there arent that many lyrics, it just tells the way she feels in a few lines then into the down down down chorus then some more of the story and back to 'down down down' god i love this song, its the first time i have listened to liz's new stuff and just wanted to turn the headphones up and think. now i am just rambling. thanks for yr time dan f. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 11:55:33 -0400 From: Jason Long Subject: Bounced message From: Jason Stone Subject: Re: support-system-digest V4 #172 I'm not sure if this is the right place to post since I never have. Just curious where to see this video everybody is talking about. Email me or post it. Thank you. JASON in AZ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 00:07:24 From: "steve kisko" Subject: Devastated, too, but not in that way Kimberly Ann: >i know she has a red fender tele like mine :). and i think she has some >strats as well but i dont know for sure. Whoa, back up a minute. Liz doesn't have a Telecaster; the red guitar is a 1962 (or '63) Fender Musicmaster (one single-coil pick-up in the neck position; Strat body). She also plays a white (yellowed with age) 1966 (some claim '63) Fender Duo Sonic, prominently displayed in the "Never Said" video. Perhaps you're confusing the unidentified red stand-in guitar seen in the "Supernova" and "Jealousy" videos with a Tele, but that one's not even a Fender. re: "DOWN" -- I haven't seen the video yet (damn it!), but I like the stills on Ken's site. Yum. I've heard the song (listening to it now, in fact), and now I think I know what that Yahoo! movie reviewer meant about Liz's Julie Johnson contributions being "uncharacteristically cloying." Bravo to Liz for writing such honest, pessimistic lyrics, but those words could've been written by anyone. It's a pretty song, fairly catchy (dig that Seals & Crofts bridge!), but oh MAN has this once-challenging songwriter gotten pedestrian with her wordplay. I'll wait until I hear the rest of the batch, but I'm starting to think this could be it for me. And I do feel bad about that. I was going to say I can't hear Liz's guitar over what I believe to be the unmistakable Gibson de Buddy Judge (that is to say, I didn't think Liz was playing guitar at all), but this new mp3 I downloaded today reveals that warm, wimpy Musicmaster tone I've come to love. Let's just say I'm glad it's a soundtrack cut & probably(?) not a selection from the new album. In related news, I picked up the Pete Yorn record last week, and while some of the songs are catchy & kind of rocking, he seems like a classic case of someone getting a deal because of who they know & not what they're worth. _musicforthemorningafter_ is like Sheryl Crow, but without the occasional flash of humor or strangeness. I hope Liz doesn't spend *too* much time with him. Eek. Steve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V4 #175 ************************************