From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V4 #85 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Wednesday, March 28 2001 Volume 04 : Number 085 Today's Subjects: ----------------- liz is a scardie cat [Dan MacDonald ] Lucinda ["Chipko Arnold" ] phest [MangoHula@aol.com] oh, how i love jealousy ["mesmerizing" ] PhairPhest ["Jason Saldanha" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 02:36:53 -0500 From: Dan MacDonald Subject: liz is a scardie cat hey there, I too saw liz in 93 or 94 at St.Andrews Hall in Detroit Michigan, and at the time I had no clue who she was (i've told this story before, sorry). I thought she was a local michigan girl!!! So I didn't even pay all that much attention, I just knew she fucked up a bunch of times on guitar. But she still rocked out. Anyway if I remember correctly (someone correct me if you went to this show and I am wrong here) but I am positive that she played right through too, no encore or anything. Strange shit. And she seemed really nervous, perhaps because a 6ft tall guy infront of me kept on SCREAMING in her face to "PLAY STRATFORD!!" and then in the same breath "OH!! LOOK AT THOSE NIPPLES BABY!!" (her nipples were VERY obvious in this sweater/shirt gettup she was wearing - - I couldn't help but look - kill me) but this fucker was soo ignorant, and finally liz was like "Okay...why don't you be quiet for a few songs and maybe I'll play it." and then she went to playing her guitar and gave him an EVIL fucking look. anyway, that was that..they shared a few more nasty comments to each other, but horribly, my memory is not serving me well, because that was a long time ago and I wasn't really that big a liz fan at the time, however, I became one after the show, because I couldn't stop thinking about her - and I bought Exile..blah blah blah..and then Whip-Smart came out - and Ka-BOOM! My favorite singer was born!! oh well. I'll never forget though, my friend who I went with was like "Hey, wanna stay and maybe meet her..." and I was like "fuck it..let's just go" cuz I was all scared because we were in Detroit so we left. DAMMIT, am I stupid or what!??! ANd we sooo coulda met her that night I bet..no one really knew who the fuck she was. oh well..i'm outta here.. ya, so she was really shy. love dan. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:03:58 From: "Chipko Arnold" Subject: Lucinda >additional factoid: lucinda wrote (and performed) the >original "passionate >kisses," long before mary chapin carpenter got >ahold of it. the original >version is much, much better. > >sandra ....abso-fuckin-lutely. Lucinda's version is and will always be the best. I'm always shocked that people don't know it's her song, that sort of thing should be taught in school. And to the person who's heard Kelly Hogan sing in the Hideout.... You lucky pup. I got to see the Jody Grind 10 times!! but only saw Kelly sing again last year when she came to the UK. The 10 years between faded away as soon as she started singing. All the hairs on my arms and back of my neck stood on end. The best gig of last year was when she played in a small club in Brixton and she sang for a couple of hours. Pure joy. Her albums are great, but live she's unbeatable. "and i wonder how i've come to know so much less than i knew before" ... Joseph Lee Henry. "i know the promise is so much better than the real thing" ... Grand Drive. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 20:11:02 EST From: MangoHula@aol.com Subject: phest In a message dated 3/27/2001 1:44:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org writes: > I know this was in the digest like a week ago, but I just got to it now. :) > Actually now it's looking like joining everyone for some Liz shows or for > the Phest this year is a go for me. Some things have changed and I'll be > able to go afterall, so I'm happy about that. All I know is...Liz better > tour this summer!!!! :) > > Craig > > think i could get thrown out of a bar at THIS liz phest? ya know, maybe make it a phest tradition?? hehehe....... i can't wait. hope i can make it wherever it will be! ~lynda --eagerly awaiting 'what about joan' ........ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:38:29 -0600 From: "mesmerizing" Subject: oh, how i love jealousy Gabe wrote: > ... some insecurity is healthy for a relationship > and keeps you checking up to make sure the other > person is content. > > If you look at other examples of marriage in the music > business, having a marriage where you have experienced > jealousy over things that happenned in the past is > about as healthy as they come this side of Paul and > Linda. i totally agree. i think the thing that is so great about "jealousy" is that she is RELEASING her irrationality. actually acknowledging that it exists and putting it out there for all to see. that way it doesn't get mistaken for something else or get manifested in another way -- meaning an unhealthy way. it's out there, raw, and she admits it, comes to terms with it, and goes on. the way a lot of other people deal with jealousy in their relationships is a recipe for disaster. and i've waxed poetic about "jealousy" before -- anyone who is in love, real love, feels this way. i guess that's being too general, but i can't imagine NOT feeling this way. it's like she says (THANKS for the link, Ken!) in the article: "It's a very vulnerable feeling when you find out how fabulous someone is." but it's what you do with those feelings of vulnerability that matters. if you look at the lyrics, everything that's going on is in her head. she's not taking any action; she's just dealing with it head-on internally. to me, that's so much better than people who deny their jealousy but then, in this effort to squelch their feelings, displace them into something more damaging. sandra ps: anyone else notice the punctuation of the following line in that article? "What a good idea: standing on the corner watching the ladies pass by." I've always assumed "what a good idea" was tacked onto the line before it ... "just putting your body wherever it seemed like a good idea." then, in an almost mocking tone: "what a good idea." but seeing it displayed that way, and punctuated with a colon, sends a whole new meaning my way. i love when that happens. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:42:40 -0600 From: "Jason Saldanha" Subject: PhairPhest Hello All, I am ashamed to admit that I am a lurker. I don't participate in this list as often as I should, but I am happy to be apart of it. It is great to see such enthusiasm for an artist. I live in Chicago like some of the others on this list, and if there is anything I could do, to help/plan/coordinate a meeting sometime this Summer, please contact me. hope to be of some help, Jason Jason Saldanha jsalda2@home.com ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V4 #85 ***********************************