From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V4 #79 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Thursday, March 22 2001 Volume 04 : Number 079 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Random stuff... [Kenneth Lee ] Re: hey hey! (re: Jase's 3/14 shout-out) [Kenneth Lee ] playing devil's advocate [raymond lew ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:00:56 From: Kenneth Lee Subject: Re: Random stuff... Jason Long wrote: >I liked your question about what Liz might do when she retires from music >(and please let that when actually be an if!). Personally, I could see her >as a writer of some sort. She has written for magazines before; I remember >a couple of pieces for Details, one of which was a line-by-line analysis of >the lyrics to "Jealousy," and she did interview an opera singer (I think) >for Chicago magazine sometime in 1996. Somehow I imagine Liz could write >some pretty kick-ass fiction as well; I'd love to read a novel penned by her. For those who want to know the exact articles (as well as other pieces written by Liz)... - - the "Jealousy" line-by-line analysis is from Details, August 1995 - - another piece (Details, February 1998) has Liz explaining how to keep a woman satisfied - - Liz's interview of opera singer Catherine Malfitano is from Chicago, November 1996 (also giving background information on "Dance of the Seven Veils") - - One of the more popular transcriptions is the piece from the book "Great Chicago Stories" All of the above are availabe at my site (as if you didn't know already). - -Ken kenmlee@ix.netcom.com MeSmErIzInG - AnOtHeR LiZ PhAiR WeBsItE http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/2471/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:09:10 From: Kenneth Lee Subject: Re: hey hey! (re: Jase's 3/14 shout-out) "Katie Brown" wrote: >Have to give a shout-out as well to Lani, Katie, Ruthie, Sandra, Ken, John >Cotter, Bill in ct, Jenny, Steve Kisko - its true, I am alive. And Jase I >am going to write you back  the only down side to getting such a great >email from an old friend is that a hasty reply wont do any justice  same >goes for my posting here  Ive been too busy to put any good thought into >anything. so thanks for the 3/14 shout-out.. ya got me! I am the estranged >syster you never had... <(:D Hi Katie! Nice to see you are alive... ;) In fact, a lot of old posters are coming out of the woodwork (such as the esteemed Aaron Walker). Now if only (:Ruthie:) would come back from her X-Files-like abduction... Heh. - -Ken kenmlee@ix.netcom.com MeSmErIzInG - AnOtHeR LiZ PhAiR WeBsItE http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/2471/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:17:44 From: Kenneth Lee Subject: Re: Phairities First, Emil Breton wrote: >Glad to hear Liz is still somewhat in touch with Brad >Wood. (At least it seems she would be if she was >taking an interest in a new artist he recently >produced.) That Liz is in L.A. a lot probably means >she's still working on the record (not a bad thing). I >doubt she moved there. Then, Jason Long wrote: >And in a perfect world, this would mean that Liz is working on the new >record with Brad, since I do believe he moved out to L.A. himself. > >Not to spread any false information or anything, but from what I've heard, >Liz is now living in Southern California. But who knows? You can't always >believe everything you hear. To which, I add: Here's an article I read (dated February 13, 2001): >>Chicago's once-declining Bucktown-Wicker Park neighborhood is now home to artists, writers and hip dot-commers. The name itself has become shorthand for nonconformity and innovation. It was the epicenter of Chicago's great indie music wave of the 1990s, the proving ground for such phenoms as Veruca Salt, Smashing Pumpkins and Liz Phair. It was hip and gritty, a once-downtrodden neighborhood revitalized by artists, musicians and bargain-seeking urbanites willing to roll the dice. Now the Smashing Pumpkins have broken up. Liz Phair is a married mom living in Southern California.<< It was from a Yahoo! business article. Make of it what you will... - -Ken kenmlee@ix.netcom.com MeSmErIzInG - AnOtHeR LiZ PhAiR WeBsItE http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/2471/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:40:50 -0800 (PST) From: raymond lew Subject: playing devil's advocate re: artists vs. record labels two questions: 1)where else can you get $1 million dollars to make an album? how will you get all the resources for radio, internet, college, and retail promotion? how will you gain access to all the distribution channels? (even selling on the internet costs $$$...nevermind the fact that internet sales make up less than 2% of total record sales) 2)let's say that you're one of the **95%** of the albums that fail. the album cost $700,000 to produce, but has only made $200,000. are you going to all of a sudden pay the record company $500,000? considering the cost of albums these days and their success rate, record labels DO take significant risks in making a commitment to an artist. i'm not saying that recording contracts are completely fair...i'm just saying that you should look at the argument from both sides before formulating an opinion. ...ray **************************************************************************** "I'm not a praying man...but if you're up there, please save me, Superman!" --Homer J. Simpson www-scf.usc.edu/~rlew **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V4 #79 ***********************************