From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V4 #19 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Saturday, January 20 2001 Volume 04 : Number 019 Today's Subjects: ----------------- liz-phair.com back up ["Jennifer Sayler" ] Vitamin's Plum (non-Liz content) [Juvenilia@aol.com] Girlysound stuff ["Daaaaan Theman" ] way OT: the eels ["Chris Camboni" ] speaking of gangs [Mike Marlatt ] Re: speaking of gangs ["kimberly ann" ] i had the best night [Sexililgurl@aol.com] Liz sighting ["Tom K." ] Re: speaking of gangs ["jason friedes" ] Re: Liz sighting ["kimberly ann" ] Re: i had the best night [Emo5858@aol.com] minor updates [Kenneth Lee ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:42:05 -0500 From: "Jennifer Sayler" Subject: liz-phair.com back up Just wanted to let everyone know that liz-phair.com is back up! Jenny ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ But anywhere I go standing on the card I show I won't find anyone who'll tell me what I need to know That's not how it's done - -- Liz Phair ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Liz-Phair.com - http://www.liz-phair.com Vampyr - http://www.saylerfamily.com/jas/vampyr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:28:35 EST From: Juvenilia@aol.com Subject: Vitamin's Plum (non-Liz content) Hey people... Just a short post from me (which is longer than most considering I don't post often)... I believe the list was posting briefly about Vitamin C (Colleen Fitzpatrick) not too long ago and I just wanted to relay something I recently saw. I was flipping through channels last night and came upon MTV's "Return of the Rejects" or something of that nature. Vitamin C was guest-hosting along with three other people and what was she wearing.... none other than an Eve's Plum T-shirt. Just thought it was interesting. Nothing of any major importance. Just struck me as sort of strange. Sometimes, Robbie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:32:41 -0500 From: "Daaaaan Theman" Subject: Girlysound stuff So I've been listening to girlysound A LOT lately and although I have known this for quite sometime, I feel that now is a good time to share my realization. This may or may not have been brought up before. The song "I Know it's Not Easy" is very long (and one of my favorites) and in the end changes and kind of becomes another song. This section of "i know it's not easy" is in fact the basis for "You Go on Ahead" on WCSE. Certain lines share the exact same melody as "go on ahead". "Well I look at the stars and I know you're under them/ I look at the cars and I know you insure them/... We've got so many little things to do" After that line I always wait for her to sing "I believe in myself and I believe in you/ I believe when I sleep you are near to me/ When I sleep I am near to you", but alas that is another song. :-) One more(less) thing. Does anyone know what the original order was for her girlysound tapes? Particularly the first 12 she ever sent out? This is a curiosity. Even though I've had Girlysound for about a year, I recently got a CD burner and can now enjoy it on my stereo. My only annoyance is that some songs sound like crap and others are really clear. I think this is because the songs that got bootlegged were probbly the 300th generation or something, and maybe the more fuzzy ones were listened to more? Maybe. I never post on this list and when I do I never get a reply. Maybe this time I will. I posted a long time ago about a really cool advance copy of Whip-Smart i bought and got no reply but now mysteriously a few months later it appears as an update on the best Liz Phair site Mesmerizing. Hmmmmmmmm.... Back to keeping my mouth shut. - -Dan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:18:11 -0500 From: "Chris Camboni" Subject: way OT: the eels Hey, I noticed that a number of people put _Daisies of the Galaxy_ on their top ten list of 2000. I was wondering if there are a lot of eels fans on this list. They are, by far, my favorite "alternative" group. There sound is just so much different from anything I'VE heard. Granted, I haven't heard of half the people you guys mention, but as far as semi-mainstream, the eels are in a class by themselves. E's harmonies just blow me away, lyrically and musically. Sorry for this being off topic, I just wanted to know what people thought. Feel free to email me privately if you don't think it's relevant enough to the digest ;) Have a great weekend, everyone, Chris _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:21:33 -0500 From: Mike Marlatt Subject: speaking of gangs OK, Hopefully I don't stir the pot too much here cause it's really just a theory that I have. I don't see any concrete evidence of it being true but to me it seems plausible. Alright, So we keep reading how labels are always screwing artists and they don't make any money until their 2nd or 3rd album deals are signed. Even if they have a hit record, right? Well, How come all of these hiphop gangster rap guys always have some massive $2million house in Florida and 6 Range Rovers at age 19 right after their first album (like the ones on MTV cribs with all the security cameras and stuff)? My theory is this, Many musicians and professional athletes act as a "washing machine" for drug money. Cash comes in from drug dealers, (clean) cheque goes out from livin' large guy (or 'lil Kim). In the ongoing murder trial of Rae Carruth (of the Carolina Panthers) he contends that his wife was shot because he refused to finance a drug deal for a childhood friend. This makes sense that these newly wealthy people would get pressure from "old" friends to help them get ahead by whatever means. Why do they do it? Probably because they get a premium for their clean money. For example, they get $150K cash for every 100K cheque they write. Easy money. SO AM I FULL OF SHIT or will someone at least humor me and see this as a plausible possible part of the music industry? Mike Marlatt BMO NESBITT BURNS Tel: 443-1622 Fax:443-1524 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:00:05 -0500 From: "kimberly ann" Subject: Re: speaking of gangs i think that is a very plausible idea. most rappers admitt to "hustling" in their younger days and i dont doubt that they would help a friend out by putting up a little cash to make more. it amazes me how rappers seem to have so much more money than any other artist out there. it seems logical that perhaps they are selling more than just records. kimberly ann >newly wealthy people would get pressure from "old" friends to help them get >ahead by whatever means. >Why do they do it? >Probably because they get a premium for their clean money. For example, >they >get $150K cash for every 100K cheque they write. Easy money. > >SO AM I FULL OF SHIT or will someone at least humor me and see this as a >plausible possible part of the music industry? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:35:33 EST From: Sexililgurl@aol.com Subject: i had the best night i couldnt post this yesterday, but i really wanted to. . . i met bb king , and it was sooo great. i dont know if there are any fans of blues out there, but i wasnt before, and wow, he's just a rad old man. it's the best show i was ever at. great great great. ok i just had to share. love ya'll taryn ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:57:00 -0800 (PST) From: "Tom K." Subject: Liz sighting Hey, I don't really post on here but I thought I'd share a Liz sighting. I was at Book Soup bookstore on Sunset Ave. in West Hollywood 2 nights ago browsing around killing time. When I headed up to the register to pick up my checked backpack I got in line behind a woman who was making a purchase. As I stood there I realized that she looked familiar, and then it hit me. I wasn't 100% sure until her friend who was standing behind me browsing a table of books picked up David Sedaris' 'Me Talk Pretty One Day' and said, 'Hey, Liz, have you read this one.?' She turned her face towards me to see her friend and I thought 'yup, that's her.' Photos don't do her justice, which was part of the reason I had some trouble figuring out if it was her at first. She's very striking and more glam than I would have expected. The clerk and the guy and Liz and I had a very brief conversation about the relative merits of David Sedaris' books and then they left. The End. Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:00:37 -0600 From: "jason friedes" Subject: Re: speaking of gangs The fact that rapper's seem to have more $ is Hype. Look b/y it. pix >From: "kimberly ann" >To: Mike.Marlatt@nbpcd.com, support-system@smoe.org >Subject: Re: speaking of gangs >Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:00:05 -0500 > >i think that is a very plausible idea. most rappers admitt to "hustling" in >their younger days and i dont doubt that they would help a friend out by >putting up a little cash to make more. it amazes me how rappers seem to >have >so much more money than any other artist out there. it seems logical that >perhaps they are selling more than just records. > >kimberly ann > > > >>newly wealthy people would get pressure from "old" friends to help them >>get >>ahead by whatever means. >>Why do they do it? >>Probably because they get a premium for their clean money. For example, >>they >>get $150K cash for every 100K cheque they write. Easy money. >> >>SO AM I FULL OF SHIT or will someone at least humor me and see this as a >>plausible possible part of the music industry? > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:19:26 -0500 From: "kimberly ann" Subject: Re: Liz sighting wow you are a lucky guy kimberly ann attempting to post as much as possible ps its also possible rappers make more money bc the usual work for a record company of a friend. like master p's brother is on his label so he probably got a better record deal >'yup, that's her.' >Photos don't do her justice, which was part of the >reason I had some trouble figuring out if it was her >at first. She's very striking and more glam than I >would have expected. The clerk and the guy and Liz and >I had a very brief conversation about the relative >merits of David Sedaris' books and then they left. >The End. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 22:36:38 EST From: Emo5858@aol.com Subject: Re: i had the best night That's awesome, Taryn! BB King is good, some of his old stuff is a bit too "get-in-the-kitchen,-woman" for me, but I like him all the same. I would have to say that my fave blues album is by another King, Albert King. _I'll Play the Blues for You_. just thought I'd share. anastasia ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 21:20:00 From: Kenneth Lee Subject: minor updates Hi all, I did some minor updates to my site. Nothing to get real excited about. That's all for now. - -Ken kenmlee@ix.netcom.com MeSmErIzInG - AnOtHeR LiZ PhAiR WeBsItE http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/2471/ ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V4 #19 ***********************************