From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V4 #11 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Friday, January 12 2001 Volume 04 : Number 011 Today's Subjects: ----------------- sex & crap ["cheddarcat" ] Re: sex & crap [Emo5858@aol.com] updating the discography [Kenneth Lee ] Conversion...possibly [lily14hurricane@chickmail.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:55:23 -0500 From: "cheddarcat" Subject: sex & crap > I agree with craig and andrea...whats that quote from seventeen magazine? > she said "if I still sang about the way I felt when I was 24, Id be dead > inside" or something to that affect. Yeah, I love the whole lo-fi indie > sound that liz had, but songs like white chocolate space egg, with all their > creepy keyboard sounds, are among my faves. > > and you cant keep writing about sex and crap...it gets old after a while... well, I have to stand up for my pissy point of view. It isn't that I didn't want Liz to grow and mature as a musician, I just didn't like WCSE as much as I'd hoped. I wasn't that psyched about the particular way in which WCSE grew and matured from EIG and WS. It wasn't about "fuck" being missing from almost all the songs, & It's not about sex either, because one of my favorite Liz songs is "Don't have time" which doesn't seem to be about sex to me. I don't know, I guess I do prefer the lo-fi indie sound, but, I think it's more than just the sound I'm missing. Some quirky quality to her writing. the song WCSE was one of my favorites from the album, but it still didn't make me fixate the way the earlier songs did. (Of course I do have extremely high expectations, given how much I fixated on EIG and WS.) All of this being said, I agree that WCSE remains much better than most of the stuff that gets played on the radio, etc. I just hope I like her next album more. No accounting for tastes and all, I guess... Judy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:34:08 EST From: Emo5858@aol.com Subject: Re: sex & crap Stuff always sounds wrong in emails...That came out much more snide than I meant it to sound. I know what you mean about the quirky writing style being lost from EIG and WS to WCSE. Its a lot less conversational and personal, more lyrical and storytelling-ish. But sonically, its pleasing to me. For liz, what would be cool would be a live album, or one like Tori Amos did with to venus and back, one that was a double and had both new stuff and a live album...I just got Liz's Sessions and Weseley tapes (thanks so much, B!), so I am eager to hear more concert stuff of liz. Again, Judy, I didn't mean to sound like such a bitch. I was just trying to agree with Craig and Andrea....Sorry :) xoxo anastasia ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 20:53:03 From: Kenneth Lee Subject: updating the discography Hi folks, While I was updating the discography for Mesmerizing, I came across Urge Overkill's 1995 album "Exit The Dragon". On that album's final track, "Digital Black Epilogue", 4 minutes into the song, you hear our beloved Liz Phair. She is talking about her summer vacation to Florida. According to Blackie Onassis, Urge Overkill's drummer, "The voice is actually Liz Phair. She stopped by the studio one day while we were recording, so we told her to go downstairs and leave us a message into the microphone." That message has been preserved on this track. That's all for now. Expect some big things over at Mesmerizing soon... - -Ken kenmlee@ix.netcom.com MeSmErIzInG - AnOtHeR LiZ PhAiR WeBsItE http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/2471/ ------------------------------ Date: 12 Jan 2001 00:34:28 -0500 From: lily14hurricane@chickmail.com Subject: Conversion...possibly Since someone, sorry I have forgotten who, bad memory, mentioned bringing up conversions well I'm attempting one. I told this guy who organises the karoke at this club I go to to get some Liz last week. Last night he told me he was looking into and he was asking me all this stuff about her so I was rambling about her for ages. Then he asked if he could borrow EIG cause he said he'd seen it on so many best albums lists but hadn't heard any of it (only heard Supernova and Polyester Bride) so I'm gonna make him a tape and hopefully convert as well as get some Liz on karoke! Seeya Sally " I thought he was a man but he was just a little boy" Fiona Apple ******************************** www.chickclick.com Sign up for free email. http://chickmail.chickclick.com Win free stuff! http://contests.chickclick.com ******************************** ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V4 #11 ***********************************