From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V4 #10 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Thursday, January 11 2001 Volume 04 : Number 010 Today's Subjects: ----------------- couldja couldja couldja ... ["sandra hume" ] oy! ["DarkSide oftheMoon" ] Re: oy! [AWeiss4338@aol.com] Re: support-system-digest V4 #9 [steve the dyke-tyke ] Krusty/Liz [Craig King ] Re: Krusty/Liz [AWeiss4338@aol.com] A little late, but me ["Just Another Girl" ] Re: Krusty/Liz [Emo5858@aol.com] Change of addy... [erin c ] more colleen talk [LULU428@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 01:02:56 -0600 From: "sandra hume" Subject: couldja couldja couldja ... could everyone please make the effort to delete all but relevant portions of the messages to which they're responding? esp. if you're not on digest and you post multiple times per day. it only takes a second. these emails are getting way too long, and scrolling-scrolling-scrolling sucks. mucho appreciated. sandra ps: jase, i know you mentioned previously your email addy was changing. do you have a new one? at any rate, could you email me your mailing address offlist? i've got something for you. better late than never. = ) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 08:07:01 From: "DarkSide oftheMoon" Subject: oy! Krusty's Advice: "You need a testosterone injection, but quick. A male >singing partner is just the ticket. I happen to know that >Herb is looking for new Peaches. Say the word and it's done." > >Ow >>Ow is right. This is sexist as shit. And Spin constantly pats itself on >>the back as being PC. Yeah right;(. This is the kind of shit I would love >>to see go away, but I don't see that happening anytime soon. That's why >>there needs to be a revolution in rock, a big fat protest movemnt to get >>rid of it, and homophobia. Andrea Come on Andrea! This is hilarious! You can just picture Krusty sitting there saying this... DarkSide oftheMoon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 03:24:21 EST From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Subject: Re: oy! In a message dated 1/10/01 3:12:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, hilofer@hotmail.com writes: > Come on Andrea! This is hilarious! You can just picture Krusty sitting there > saying this... > > > Yeah maybe, I guess I can. I sometimes don't have a sense of humor. Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:24:06 -0500 (EST) From: steve the dyke-tyke Subject: Re: support-system-digest V4 #9 >It would LITERALLY be the same thing if Courtney Love all of a sudden >dropped off the face of the earth for one year - and all of a sudden, a >new teen sensation sprung up, with dance moves and prom theme songs - >named "Love Heart" - and we took a closer look, passed the tank top, >plastic surgery and pink lip gloss - and noticed it was COURTNEY!! That actually sounds like a very Courtney Love move...hehe. I always thought Eve's Plum was very...i don't know...typical. Way too cute female singer with fun clothes in front of a bunch of boys playing music. I've never really dug bands like that (except garbage, because shirley manson can kick anyone's ass). Honestly, on a structural level, it's not that different from vitamin C (except the music is obviously different, in a really really bad way.) i guess what i'm saying is, i didn't really have that much esteem for eve's plum to begin with, so the vitamin c shtick doesn't really bug me that much, except when it's on the radio :) Did anyone see "Vitamin C" in that spoof of the Blair Witch Project? The "Three White Kids go into the ghetto....and are never seen again" thing? i contemplated renting it but couldn't bring myself to do it because vanilla ice is also in it. and spin mag is shit. steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 07:27:56 -0800 (PST) From: Craig King Subject: Krusty/Liz That Krusty The Clown/Liz article is just plain wrong. As much as I love The Simpsons, that was a total waste of my time to read. I can't believe they actually printed that. I've always hated Spin magazine. Now I guess I have more ammo to hate them. I know a phair number of people were disappointed with WCSE, but I personally loved it along with Whip-Smart (my fav Liz album). I still don't get how people expect her to keep making 'Exile In Guyville' over and over again for each successive record. It's called growth and maturity. Craig "For when the Stone Temple Pilots are on top of their game, no single act -- not one -- has a higher potential for true greatness." Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:15:11 EST From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Subject: Re: Krusty/Liz In a message dated 1/10/01 10:32:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, lvegasrulz@yahoo.com writes: > That Krusty The Clown/Liz article is just plain wrong. > As much as I love The Simpsons, that was a total > waste of my time to read. I can't believe they > actually printed that. I've always hated Spin > magazine. Now I guess I have more ammo to hate them. > I know a phair number of people were disappointed with > WCSE, but I personally loved it along with Whip-Smart > (my fav Liz album). I still don't get how people > expect her to keep making 'Exile In Guyville' over and > over again for each successive record. It's called > growth and maturity. > I agree. Even if they were trying to be humorious, as some have suggested, it's sour humor. Spin is so obnoxious. As much as I love EIG, WCSE is my favorite Liz album too, just because she had grown and matured. Yes EIG was a ground breaker, but Liz broke as much ground with WCSE, just because it was so adult. And on her next album, she will break more ground, I don't think she'll just refine everything from EIG like she did on WS, which wasn't a bad thing at all, but it was a holding pattern for her. And I love WS. I recomend Robert Christgau's Rock Albums Of The 90's for his reviews on Liz, he says everything he needs to say on Liz, in one paargraph reviews, with all her albums getting A's. WS gets two stars as an Honerable Mention. Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:22:31 -0500 From: "Just Another Girl" Subject: A little late, but me I missed this as I was on vacation, but if you all don't mind, I figured I'd just throw my info in here and we could all pretend like it's not late at all. Thanks. 1. Who am I? I am Melinda and I'm a college student living near Philadelphia. I've been on this list for about 6 months now and I think I've posted all of twice, but I'm not a big Liz-info person. I don't really know much about her at all, though I love her music. 2. What other music do I listen to? Um, well, I like most music, but my CD player will see the likes of Tori Amos, NIN, L7, No Doubt, Ben Folds Five, Hole, and Sarah McLachlan. I listen to the radio a lot too. (Here, Y100, in Atlanta, 99X) 3. My top albums of the 90's? Not that I've sampled a terrible lot of them, but Tori Amos: Little Earthquakes, Liz Phair: EIG, Ben Folds: Whatever and Ever Amen, and Liz's Juvenalia. 4. Random comments: I noticed that someone put Ruby down on their list and it's been bugging me for over 2 weeks, but what song have I heard Ruby play??? I can remember the video, but I have no idea what the song's called or how it goes. If you could hum a few bars, I'd appreciate it. :-) And what was up with Spin's comments on Liz? Did that writer ever listen to her or did he just catergorize her as the weepy female steroetype. I fail to see the real humor in that piece (even if it is "from" Krusty) and I see humor in everything, and I do mean everything. If that article was meant at all seriously I am peeved. One thing Liz has never really made me want to do is freakin' weep. And I like how the flower comment was thrown in there since that entire song is about taking a guy as a love slave. Hehehe. Okay, I suppose I can see some humor, but to anyone who has never listened to Liz, that would be a total turn-off and if anything more people need to listen to her. By the way, if she had a guy with her, I think she'd completely crush him, both vocally and emotionally. Alright, enough of my two cents already! ~Melinda _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:40:20 EST From: Emo5858@aol.com Subject: Re: Krusty/Liz In a message dated 1/10/01 10:32:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, lvegasrulz@yahoo.com writes: > I still don't get how people > expect her to keep making 'Exile In Guyville' over and > over again for each successive record. It's called > growth and maturity. I agree with craig and andrea...whats that quote from seventeen magazine? she said "if I still sang about the way I felt when I was 24, Id be dead inside" or something to that affect. Yeah, I love the whole lo-fi indie sound that liz had, but songs like white chocolate space egg, with all their creepy keyboard sounds, are among my faves. and you cant keep writing about sex and crap...it gets old after a while... ana ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 18:32:41 -0800 (PST) From: erin c Subject: Change of addy... i, could I get the support system digest delivered to marzchik@mobile.att.net ? Thanks, Erin Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:22:41 EST From: LULU428@aol.com Subject: more colleen talk > Eve's > Plumb was a local band for me, they were from Old Bridge NJ, I'm about a > half > I always have to add my 2 cents when talk leads to colleen and eve's plum b/c I am from Old Bridge and she went to my high school. I've mentioned this every time theres talk of her on the list. She is 2 years older then me and I am 29, so yeah, she's not 24 like people magazine said. she was in all the school plays and was the star- from 7th grade on up. everyone knew her that way. she was always kinda dorky though- not considered "cool" by anyones standards in h.s. -though where i went to h.s. it was cool to be a dirtbag (heavy metal/druggie) and not a singer or actress for some reason. it was nj in the 80's. metallica was it... but everyone was excited when we found out she was in hairspray. I loved eve's plum too, and think its a shame what she did! i teach in an elementary school and when i saw some of the 5th grade girls with her cd i told them i went to high school with her and they couldnt believe it! they were so excited to hear that, b/c they love her! oooh so sad... Lani ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V4 #10 ***********************************