From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V4 #3 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Thursday, January 4 2001 Volume 04 : Number 003 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Election song choice [g bishop ] shh. [steve the dyke-tyke ] (hi ben) and i am.... ["Wendy Bryant" ] Pearl Jam [Easter ] Re: Pearl Jam [VinylMonger@aol.com] who am i [Andy Peters ] RE: shh. ["Vanegas, Trent" ] Liz Phair in book... ["Al's E-mail" ] Re: election song ["Al's E-mail" ] closet cleaning [RocketBoyD@aol.com] dissapointments/surprises [HOLEPARTS@aol.com] Responses [Dan ] grammy nominations [robert joyner ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 22:41:47 -0800 From: g bishop Subject: Election song choice Election song for me? "Gimme Some Truth" by John Lennon "I'm sick to death of hearing things From uptight, narrowminded, pigheaded politicians All I want is the Truth Just give me some Truth I'm sick to death of reading things From neurotic, psychotic, mommy's little chauvanists All I want is the Truth Just give me some Truth" etc. It's on Napster most likely. (excuse me if I got some of the lyrics out of place, but you get the general idea.) Greg B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 02:08:51 -0500 (EST) From: steve the dyke-tyke Subject: shh. Ok, so i found this song by Poe..supposedly she did it recently for a sdtrk for a movie called "gossip"?? i dont know. it's called "my lips are sealed"...and yep, it's a cover of the go-go's song. it kicks all ass. songs...downloading...blah. bored. i'll try this top 5 of the 90s. wow. that would be really tough. i would have to stick with one album per artist...um, and i'd have to do ten. ;) Little Earthquakes - Tori Amos The Hot Rock - Sleater-Kinney Hips and Makers - Kristin Hersh King - Belly Ani Difranco - the first album Rid of Me - PJ Harvey Julie Ruin Exile in Guyville - Liz Thanks for the Ether - Rasputina Calculated - Heavens to Betsy I guess that's how i'd do that...probably some bjork and loreena and sinead following up those. I bought all the island of the misfit toys at CVS today for $5 total. all the xmas stuff was %90 off. the cowboy who rides an ostrich is the cutest fucking thing ever. steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:18:08 -0600 From: "Wendy Bryant" Subject: (hi ben) and i am.... > Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:06:14 -0500 > 1) Who am I? > I'm Ben, a 26 year old IT Manager in Boston. Married, homeowner, dog owner, > assimilator, and I used to be so cool. Hi Ben....I am married to a 26 year old IT Manager in Cedar Rapids IA. we aren't yet homeowners, we have a cat, and used to be cool too! i just thought your line above was funny! We aren't old. We answer to no one! its great! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am Wendy Garringer (not bryant) Im married, just finishing up college (Social Work), am 26, enjoy running and reading tom robbins novels, and traveling is my new passion-thats why we aren't home owners yet-leave for italy in a week! I enjoy, besides the obvious liz, juliana hatifield, tori amos, no doubt, live, rage against the machine, jewel, alanis, ani difranco, godsmack, red hot chili peppers, k's choice, paula cole, fiona apple, letters to cleo, jeff buckley, bikini kill, the toadies. i am one of the few who don't enjoy amiee man and badly drawn boy. albums favorite of any time are.... Mental Jewelry Live Little Earthquaikes Tori Amos Only Everything Juliana Hatfield Sunburn Blake Babies EIG Liz Phair and, who ever said they find themselves enjoying "return of saturn" more than they ever thought they would, ME TOO! "im faking i love yous, your forcing me to" i love that cd.... so, i'll make another list of other favs (not top 5) Return of Saturn No Doubt Rage Against the Machine Rage Against the Machine When the Pawn.... Fiona Apple Letters to Cleo Aura Glory Alice The distance to here Live the double release Juliana Hatfield Unplugged/ Supposed Former....Alanis Wipsmart Liz P. i am greatly awaiting the new stuff by.... Blake Babies REM Liz Alanis M. the toadies (yeah 2001!!) now back to your regular scheduled lurking...... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 05:33:43 -0800 (PST) From: Easter Subject: Pearl Jam Wow, so many Pearl Jam fans on this list. Which makes me feel comfortable to ask a question to those who may be able to help. Which live concert CD should I consider getting? I know they've released a few last year, but I have no idea which to get. Thanks in advance. :) Katie ();) ===== ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ "So play the game 'Existence' to the end." - John Lennon ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:12:37 EST From: VinylMonger@aol.com Subject: Re: Pearl Jam Hi there- Well, if you're talking strength of show (in Europe), I think the general opinion is that Katowice 2 is the best. One of my personal favorites is Oslo. If you're talking fun, Manchester and San Sebastian have great f*ckups. But I haven't heard a bad boot yet. If you're waiting for U.S. tour, Las Vegas and Seattle 2 are the front-runners. I personally think Phoenix has one of the strongest sounding Ed vocals ever. You can't listen to just one... :) paige- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:13:07 -0800 (PST) From: Andy Peters Subject: who am i 1.) Who am I? N/A 2.) What other music do you listen to? see below 3.) Your Top 5 albums of the 90s: Vic Chesnutt/Little Liz Phair/Exile in Guyville Pavement/Brighten the Corners Shrimp Boat/Speckly Love Tractor/Themes From Venus Galaxie 500/This is Our Music Guided by Voices/Bee Thousand Gorky's Zygotic Mynci/Barafundle Juliana Hatfield/Hey Babe Violent Femmes/Why Do Birds Sing? Baker Maultsby/Bingo=Sin XTC/Oranges and Lemons The Clean/Vehicle A Tribe Called Quest/The Low-End Theory Yo La Tengo/I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One Beck/Odelay High Llamas/Hawaii Replacements/Don't Tell a Soul U2/Unforgettable Fire The Glands Silver Jews/American Water Javelin Boot/The Schwa Sound Matthew Sweet/Girlfriend Bob Mould/Workbook Grant Hart/2541 4) Top albums not from the 90s: R.E.M./Murmur R.E.M./Reckoning XTC/Skylarking Replacements/Let It Be Husker Du/Warehouse: Songs and Stories Tom Waits/Frank's Wild Years Talking Heads/Little Creatures Kinks/Something Else Big Star/Third: Sister Lovers Beatles/White Album Beatles/Sgt. Pepper Beatles/Abbey Road De La Soul/3 Feet High and Rising Elvis Costello/Blood and Chocolate The Persuasions/Chirpin Uncle Green/You Warren Zevon/Excitable Boy Camper Van Beethoven/Key Lime Pie Guadalcanal Diary/Walking in the Shadow of the Big Man The Real Kids Earl Scruggs/Live at Kansas State Delbert McClinton/Victim of Life's Circumstances Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 11:37:19 -0500 From: "Vanegas, Trent" Subject: RE: shh. Poe did do this for the movie "Gossip". She is also in the movie for like 0.000000000000000001 secs as a singer in a bar in the beginning. - -----Original Message----- From: steve the dyke-tyke To: support-system@smoe.org Sent: 1/3/2001 2:08 AM Subject: shh. Ok, so i found this song by Poe..supposedly she did it recently for a sdtrk for a movie called "gossip"?? i dont know. it's called "my lips are sealed"...and yep, it's a cover of the go-go's song. it kicks all ass ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 01 11:28:23 -0800 From: "Al's E-mail" Subject: Liz Phair in book... I was shopping at Cosco/Price Club this past weekend and came across a book titled: "Electric Guitars: The Illustrated Encyclopedia" and decided to browse through and pictured on page like 65 or 60-something was none other than Liz Phair. It was in the Fenders section of the book and the caption read something to the affect that...recenlty some of Fender's cheaper guitars have been used by some musicians who didn't want to fork out a lot of money to play. Than it read...Liz Phair used a Fender (sorry don't remember the model) to record her...whatever, whatever. Sorry don't remember exactly what it said, but I thought it was pretty cool that she had her photo in the book with a lot of other great electric guitarists. :) If you wanna purchase it or more info, check out amazon http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1571452818/o/qid=978549049/sr=2-1/10 7-4736403-6266942 Happy New Year to all the queers and normal folk. Al :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 01 11:35:53 -0800 From: "Al's E-mail" Subject: Re: election song >> > From: "christine m." >> > Subject: election song >> > I don't know if this has been covered before or not, >> > but, if you were >> > running for president what would your campaign song >> > be? Well I think the perfect election song would be "never said". Picture all 'em poleeteecians singin it. Quite fitting, I think... Al :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:43:16 EST From: RocketBoyD@aol.com Subject: closet cleaning hi everyone........ This isn't exactly Liz related, but I'm getting rid of some of my collection......it's never ending.............I have a couple items that Liz fans might like: Tori Amos "God" UK remixes cd Ani Difranco "Introspective" Bootleg If anyone is up for trading for Liz stuff, or (Sheryl Crow, Hole, Aimee Mann, Tori Amos) stuff, let me know....... thanks ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:56:57 EST From: HOLEPARTS@aol.com Subject: dissapointments/surprises since everyone is talking about their favorite albums, i thought i should list my biggest dissapointments, and biggest surprises of 2000. here goes: 1) Collective Soul - Blender i really liked all of their older albums. i dont know what is wrong with this one. maybe its too much ego/techno oriented? 2) Madonna - Music i never really liked madonna until my friend made me buy ray of light. I have to say, Ray of Light was such an amazing record. If you forgot the name, forgot that it was Madonna, you can see it in a whole new light. Some of those songs are even rock-ish! anyways, it was on repeat in my player. i kind of expected music to be a ray of light prt.2 (which it was in many ways). althought music was on repeat in my player for a while, i couldnt get over how better ray of light was. some of the songs on music sound as if they are the remixed versions. im left thinking "hey-where is the original??" (ex-runanway lover). i really loved the folk-ish songs tho (even tho they didnt really fit with the electronica ones). i guess it was just a couple songs that dissapointed me where as with ray of light, there were none. 3) pearl jam- binaural i feel bad saying this because i really love pearl jam, and i was addicted to this cd, but it didnt rock me as much as the others did. i really liked that folk movement, but i miss listening to one of their songs and rocking out like hell! i saw them live and they really kick complete ass tho, which really redeemed them! biggest surprise albums: 1) veruca salt- resolver i remember always loving the old veruca salt, but since there was really no sign ofhem for a while i kind of "moved on". then when i heard that louise was back **by herself** with the name Veruca Salt, it kind of made me upset. i was like "hey nina wrote my favorite songs- why did Louise keep the name?". then one night i saw the "Born Entertainer" video on 120 Mins, and i HAD to go buy the record. i am REALLY happy that i did. Resolver was my 2nd favorite album of the year, and it really made em realize how awesome Louise Post's songs are. I really went back to the old VS albums and even b-sides and was shocked at how i didnt realize the greatness of her songs before. i always liked them, but Nina's songs are just so much easier to get into (which doesnt always make them better) 2) Nina Gordon - Tonight and the Rest of My Life In a way i kind of knew that i would like this record, so it was really a suprise that it was my favorite of the year. But, it is wierd that it was my favorite because the old VS was never like, my all-time favorite. i remember buying "american thighs" and "8 arms to hold u" and thinking that they were really great, fun albums, but they were never my favorite (i like them now more than i ever had before!). I could always relate to Nina's songs right off the bat, and this album is an example of that. even tho it isnt VS-nina, she is still here, and she is still making really great music!!!! I never would have imagined that i would have become so nina obsessed as to meet her 4 times this year thought, which is what i guess made it such a surprise for me (she was never my all-time favorite)! it was worth it tho! 3) Pj Harvey - Stories from the city, Stories from the sea i always loved pj. always always always, but kind of like nina- she was never really my favorite. I REALLY got into her with "is this desire?". i thought that was a phenomenal record, and there was no way that she would be able to out do it with a follow up. well, i was right (i liked "is this desire?" just a tad bit more), but the albums was still SOOOO GREAT. i was really impressed that an artist can keep making follow ups that are almost better, or better than the previous album. and all of her albums leave me in awe! - -mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 10:57:27 -0500 From: Dan Subject: Responses Derek wrote: >4) Top albums not from the 90s: >David Bowie - Lodger >David Bowie - Low >David Bowie - "Heroes" >David Bowie - Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps) >David Bowie - Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars >David Bowie - Hunky Dory > DEREK!!! I could not agree more!!! You named each and everyone one of my ALL TIME FAVORITE Bowie albums!! By far!!! (Okay, I would have replaced "Low" with "StationToStation" - but whatever.) Great pics! I'm a large LARGE Bowie fan!!!!!! (Where is "Man Who Sold the WOrld" though???) My theory is (being brought up by and scarred by the catholic church - do you know how hard it is to be a fag when yer at a catholic grade school..yikes!)anyway my theory on music is based on the holy trinity (that's about all I got out of the 'Catholic experience') - there is a holy trinity of music - 3 innovative entities who have done LITERALLY every single kind of music - and together - have inspired in SOME WAY - EVERY SINGLE ARTIST we listen to today. My theory is: GOD THE FATHER = THE BEATLES GOD THE SON = DAVID BOWIE GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT = PINK FLOYD The apostles (runner ups) would be Lou Reed (velvet underground) and Rolling Stones. I guess the Virgin Mary would be either Debbie Harry - or Janis Joplin OR Patti Smith - and Joan Jett would be an "Apostle-ette" but I have my one trinity - and I am standing by it. ANyway guys..i know it is exhausted to death, but I wanna do the whole little survey to! Do you care? Okay, here it is. 1.) Who am I? Dan MacDonald - I'm a music writer for ROOM Magazine in Windsor Ontario, I am a journalism student, I have a degree in English Literature and Creative WRiting and I also work as a server/Bartender (where I make all my REAL money) - and I'm 23 years old - and I dread turning 24 in May. 2.) What other music do you listen to? Billions and billions. I listen to everything form indie indie to hard core gangster rap. But my fave is middle ground - the kinda girls who can grab a microphone and purr into it - and blow my mind with genius guitar chords at the same time. I like cute guy-rock bands too..but that's just ear candy, not to mention hot eye candy. AND NO - I do not mean Limp DickBizkit either - I lump them with the Backsteet Boys. 3.) Your Top 5 albums of the 90s: 1. Exile in Guyville - Liz Phair 2. RUBBERNECK - Toadies 3. HOLE - Live Through This 4. RADIOHEAD - OK Computer 5. PJ Harvey - Rid of Me 6. Bjork - Debut 7. Mazzy Star - She Hangs Brightly 8. Sebadoh - Harmacy 9. Tomorrow People - Golden Energy CD (in stereo) 10. Eve's Plum - Envy 4) Top albums not from the 90s: 1. David Bowie - HUNKY DORY 2. PINK FLOYD - Dark Side of the Moon 3. Beatles - White album 4. Rolling Stones - Emotional Rescue 5. Bangles - All Over The Place 6. Madonna - Like a Prayer 7. Lou Reed - Transformer 8. Pixies - Doolittle 9. Sinead O'Connor - The Lion and the Cobra 10. and GOD DAMMIT - THE FUCKING DIRTY DANCING SOUNDTRACK!! HOw sweet was that shit?!?!?!!? 5) Favorites of 2000, from 1 to 10 PJ Harvey - Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea Veruca Salt - Resolver Sinead O'Connor - Faith and Courage Sleater-Kinney - All Hands on the Bad One Erykah Badu - Mama's Gun Juliana Hatfield - Beautiful Creature Hope Sandoval and the Warm Inventions - At The Doorway Again BJORK - SelmaSongs Poe - Haunted Madonna - Music Most looking forward to: new Breeders, new Liz, new Weezer. thanks for being patient... love always, dan. NP - "Happiness is a Warm Gun" - Breeders. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:28:26 -0800 (PST) From: robert joyner Subject: grammy nominations i was just looking over this year's grammy nominations and two categories in particular jumped out at me. Female Pop Vocal Performance: ``What a Girl Wants,'' Christina Aguilera; ``I Try,'' Macy Gray; ``Music,'' Madonna; ``Save Me,'' Aimee Mann; ``Both Sides Now,'' Joni Mitchell; ``Oops! ... I Did It Again,'' Britney Spears. What a total bi-polar group of choices. something tells me that the radio friendly artists (brit, christina) will be cancelled out by the critical faves (aimee, macy) and they will give the grammy to the oldest Candidate possible (joni mitchell). I think you have to be near retirment age to actually win a grammy, kinda like santana last year. Don't take this as a knock against the quality of Joni Mitchell's work. The grammy's tend to think more lifetime achievement when giving out these type of awards. Female Rock Vocal Performance: ``Paper Bag,'' Fiona Apple; ``There Goes the Neighborhood,'' Sheryl Crow; ``Enough of Me,'' Melissa Etheridge; ``So Pure,'' Alanis Morissette; ``Glitter in Their Eyes,'' Patti Smith Not a strong field of candidates, imho. It is probably just me but I haven't heard any of these songs. I have to be honest here and say i think the artists were nominated rather than the song. just one opinion. message to craig: Stone Temple Pilots nominated for Hard Rock Performance for "Down". later robert ===== I'm Only Happy When It's Rains http://www.geocities.com/janetrains2000/ Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V4 #3 **********************************