From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V3 #300 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Tuesday, November 7 2000 Volume 03 : Number 300 Today's Subjects: ----------------- kansas ["sandra" ] liz at UT ["Jennifer Sayler" ] Re: Liz/PJ thing [NegSplitz@aol.com] Bounced message [Jason Long ] a convert ["DarkSide oftheMoon" ] Re: support-system-digest V3 #299 ["overpavement" Subject: kansas > > I'm always alarmed to hear that other people live in Kansas. I mean..i know > they do...i can see that..but...blah... > > M i'm pretty alarmed i'm here myself. but, well, there was this guy. i actually met him on a -- horrors -- mailing list for another band. and next thing i knew, i found myself thinking: well, i've had a hell of a time in boston, and now it's time to move on. so here i am on the freakin prairie. (southwest kansas, it doesn't get any flatter or treeless than this. 3 miles from colorado ... my friends back home have dubbed it "coloransas.") and next week we're, like, getting married. shit like this happens, i swear. sandra NP: Liz, Phairplay, "Conversation Overheard Between Two Bouncers" (this is a MUCH better title) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:20:52 -0500 From: "Jennifer Sayler" Subject: liz at UT I believe the liz lecture at UT is during the first week of December Jenny ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ But anywhere I go standing on the card I show I won't find anyone who'll tell me what I need to know That's not how it's done - -- Liz Phair ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Liz-Phair.com - http://www.liz-phair.com Vampyr - http://www.saylerfamily.com/jas/vampyr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:33:16 EST From: NegSplitz@aol.com Subject: Re: Liz/PJ thing Some references to PJ's latest CD.. She and Liz are at the top of my list and the newest from PJ is absolutely worthwhile..Sort of combines lots of stuff she has done in the past, with a new (self-confessed I hear) optimism and liveliness. If recent PJ has made you gloomy, try this new one..very up tempo, and some might say, "more musical.." You might even hear Patti Smith, the Pretenders, and the Motels in there a bit..but it is all PJ..More commercial? Maybe, but who cares? I doubt that she does. BTW, let us Angelinos know if Liz is really out here for awhile? PJ played at the Viper Room recently, and if Liz is in town, could follow suit! Wes Edwards ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 15:55:08 -0500 From: Jason Long Subject: Bounced message From: "John A. Johnson" Subject: VH1 shows On Sun, 5 Nov 2000 09:12:11 -0800 "Dana Polachowski" wrote: >those VH1 shows--they suck you in!! i can't believe it! one minute i'm >sitting there flipping through channels, next thing you know i'm a full 45 >minutes into "the tony orlando story." yikes. it's sick. it's weird. i don't >understand it. You're right, getting sucked into the Tony Orlando story is sick, weird, and hard to understand. On the other hand, VH1's Behind-the-Music stories and movie specials on good artists and groups (Beach Boys, Cat Stevens, Peter Frampton, and--last night--Badfinger) have been well worth watching. I've learned a lot from these shows. For example, in the Chicago BTM show, I learned that Jimi Hendrix considered Terry Kath to be a better guitar player. OK, for Liz content, here's a quote from VH1's site on the top 100 hard rock bands: "Many of the artists who helped select the top 100 will be interviewed in the VH1 series, as will Billy Corgan, Alice Cooper, Chuck D, C.C. DeVille, Peter Frampton, Sammy Hagar, Rob Halford, James Hetfield, Kid Rock, Liz Phair, Henry Rollins, Vince Neil, Slash, and others." - -------------------------------------------- John A. Johnson Harry Browne for President: http://www.harrybrowne2000.org/ My views do not necessarily reflect the official views of Penn State. Penn State is not responsible for my behavior. Nor am I for the university's. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- John A. Johnson http://www.personal.psu.edu/~j5j/public_html/ My views do not necessarily reflect the official views of Penn State. Harry Browne for President: http://www.harrybrowne2000.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 02:12:46 GMT From: "DarkSide oftheMoon" Subject: a convert lizters, seems to me i dreamed about Liz last night, but for the life of me I cannot remember what it was about - don't you hate that? as far as the top 100 list goes...well you can't please everyone (and somehow i see this list coming up with their own pretty soon) well the friend i was going to turn on to liz went out and bought her own copy of whip-smart last week! woo-hoo another liz fan in the making! DarkSide oftheMoon _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 00:04:11 -0500 From: "overpavement" Subject: Re: support-system-digest V3 #299 someone wrote: >I am almost at the point now of leaving the car radio on where my 7 year old left >it (Bubblegum radio) and find myself singing along to Brittany, Christina and >Mandy (another aside--girls simply did NOT look like that when I was 20!!). >So, I need a little help from the list to enhance my CD rotation away from >Liz, Juliana, Throwing Muses, LTC, Mazzy Star, Spinnanes, Tracy Bonham >etc--I need some suggestions of current music I might like that doesn't get >played on the radio, but fits my musical faves... one of my favorites, who is rarely mentioned on this list (a fact that regularly surprises me, although i'm getting used to being surprised), is sam phillips. two of her records, "The Indescribable Wow" and "Martinis & Bikinis" are so great it's hard to believe they didn't result in *any* airplay (well, okay, not THAT hard to believe, but still...). "Wow" is very psychedelic and spectacular, while "Bikinis" is a song cycle that borrows heavily from the beatles and brings things up to date with brilliant lyrics and arrangements, and excellent production from sam's husband, t-bone burnett. suffice it to say that i agree with everything jason said about sleater-kinney, and that most of it would also apply to sam phillips, except that she's a little more experimental, musically speaking. her other 2 records ("Cruel Inventions" and "Omnipop: It's only a flesh wound, lambchop") are more 'difficult', but still very smart, although i can't really recommend them to anyone except the already converted. her new 'best of' disc ("Zero Zero Zero") is a good introduction, but, like most 'best of' collections, loses the context that her best complete records have. my suggestion would be to start with either "Wow" or "Martinis" and save the other two for after you've decided how much you like her most successful work first. another band to try is, of course, pavement. but i have to admit that i can only recommend three of their albums. however, those 3 are all among the 20 or so best records released between 1990 and 1999: "crooked rain crooked rain", "slanted and enchanted", and "brighten the corners". i've never warmed up to "wowee zowee?" or "terror twilight". but phair, pavement, and phillips are 3 of my top-5 favorites, along with sleater-kinney and r.e.m. (as unfashionable as that may be). and, btw, don't say *anything* bad about christina aguilera. also, never mention her name in the same sentence with those other 2 hacks you mentioned above. this is just simply a universal rule, and fair warning for everyone on this list. i do have a temper, and there's no point in testing me... :) ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V3 #300 ************************************