From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V3 #59 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Sunday, March 5 2000 Volume 03 : Number 059 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: support-system-digest V3 #58 [Valerie Barry ] web pages and stuff... [george2@sas.upenn.edu (matt george)] Whip-Smart mistranscriptions [Jason Long ] Bounced message [Jason Long ] FWD: Message posted to incorrect list address [Jason Long ] Re: angels, clerks, etc. [Headache79@aol.com] tracy bonham [TADude9999@aol.com] buddy judge reference in EW [Miz Phair ] patterns in the chaos (on topic) [Miz Phair ] Pixies Tribute (non-Liz related) [Catherine Lewis ] Mesmerizing - updated again! [Kenneth Lee ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 02:26:53 -0500 From: Valerie Barry Subject: Re: support-system-digest V3 #58 jason: your post killed me...it was funny as hell...i always like you, but i like you best when you're in a good mood and being funny...still loving my aimee tape. bill: you just might be gay...and that's just fine! songs i think liz should cover: i wholeheartedly agree with 'cinnamon girl'...would also like to throw in 'behind blue eyes' by the who, anything by tom waits, and something cheesy like "i know what boys like" by the waitresses, from the early 80's (incidentally, alli's recent 17th birthday makes me feel very old right now!). divorce song: i've always wanted to tell someone they've never been a waste of my time... np: massive attack 'mezzanine', the clean fizz of my miller lite and heavy bass from the boy downstairs, who i hooked up with twice last week but am afraid to go talk to again, for some reason. shit, i might as well have just turned 17 :) *********************************************************** "...well look at me i'm frightening my friends..." - -Liz Phair ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 02:46:43 -0500 (EST) From: george2@sas.upenn.edu (matt george) Subject: web pages and stuff... wow, it's been like a really long time since i've read the digest, or even been into liz stuff. i mean, i just downloaded and heard that conversation between two bouncers song TODAY for gosh sakes...it's wonderful by the way :) bit i've decided that i really need to get back into it though. i dunno, i've just been so busy lately, y'know...with trying to get out of this darn school (man, i feel like i've been her for 11 years now...), tring to get my girlfriend to move to philadelphia, or else me finding a job in boston, a great but very time-demanding new job...but really those are pretty trivial things when it comes to liz ! i mean HOW could i have put all that in front of liz, how could i have ? i think it really needs to stop now... i think the part i feel the worst about is just letting my web site grow stagnant. i really used to pride myself in updating it all the time, but i just haven't gotten around to it in ages. i really do appreciate SOOOO much those of you who kept links to it regardless...i think that's really great of you to do. but i decided that i HAVE to get to work on it and just overhaul the whole thing...no ifs ands or butts about it ! i guess there is kinda a problem though, cos i just look around all the great liz pages out there and all the cool stuff you guys have done, and whatever i used to have on my page just seems redundant i guess ? i mean, when i put mine up there weren't too many liz pages around, but now there's such a wealth of info and so much awesome design out on all of your pages, that i just really feel i need to kinda do something different and reinvent my page. i'm having some trouble thinking of just what to do though, since it seems like all the bases are already covered. i guess i'm going to try and narrow my focus to just a few areas and try and be exhaustive with those, and then just keep small other sections...like i'm thinking maybe being like a concert review and lyric repository and then maybe just having small sections with just a few pics or sound clips or whatever. but if someone has some other ideas as to which few areas i could focus on, i'd love to hear them....i mean, maybe there's some area or aspect that you feel is missing from some of the pages out there or could be done better then let me know and maybe it'll give me something to go on. but the last part i think is that i REALLY need to make it different, so i'm THINKING about maybe making it really design oriented with tons of graphics that take forever to load and i'm also toying with the idea of making it a completely flash site! i know that a lot of you hate really intensive large pages, and just like simple, easy to read, quick loading pages that are easy to navigate and just with the info you need to know...hey wait a second I'M a person like that ! :) i actually do HATE all those needless splashy graphics and animation type pages, but i just really feel the need to kind of separate myself and do something new, and maybe that'd be a way to do it ? i dunno, i'll mess around with it and see what i come up with. oh, and the last thing is that as ms. robbins and probably a few others of you know, is that i have this really awful habit of setting out to do something, only taking like FOREVER to get off my butt and do it. i mean, i always do get around to it, but uh, just maybe 3 or 4 or um, 11 months down the road :) something like this flash thing will probably take a few months anyways, but in order to prevent me backing out completely, i think i need to impose some arbitrary deadline on all of this. hmmm, let me see and pluck a random date out of the air....how bout may 24 ? yes, that sound just peachy keen :) okay, so that's it...i promise to have my revamped site up by that date (hopefully before then) so hopefully someone is writing this down and will be letting me know if i miss that date. but thanks for listening and like i said, if anyone has any ideas or things they'd like to see, then just e-mail or post something on the list, k ? hopefully if you still have a link to my page you'll keep it in the meantime, and if you don't uh, then hopefully after i'm done you'll wanna put one on :) but anyways that's about it...thanks a lot and i'll see you soon... matt matt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 04:46:52 -0500 From: Jason Long Subject: Whip-Smart mistranscriptions Hey everyone, In the last digest, I mentioned that I would try to find a top 10 list of mistranscribed lyrics from the _Whip-Smart_ tab book that I had posted to the list a couple of years back. Here it is, for those who are interested: 1. "I was a Star Trek crew member with my Beatle boots and my Subaru." 2. "I dropped him off and I drove on home 'cause secretly I'm dead." 3. "Rock and roll candle, he's a national anthem." 4. "This is such a stupid picture of a single rail." 5. "I know the gossip flies around there crack faced." 6. "A slap in the face from bitches. Such a stupid picture of me, and a steak why don't you throw it in a panther kitchen movie, then I'll like you better." (What the hell would that even mean?!?) 7. "Sad state, night in the afternoon." 8. "Garden he watched. Disease, hashish our minds to a heaven he watched." 9. "He's got a family in his hair." 10. "Your lips are sweet and slippery like a sheriff's bare red ass." Cringing at the mistakes, Jase NP: Aimee Mann & Michael Penn, 02/08/2000 Alexandria, VA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 04:49:09 -0500 From: Jason Long Subject: Bounced message From: "John A. Johnson" Subject: Re: Mother, Mother On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 23:05:35 -0800 (PST) jake wrote: >I heard a song at a bar tonight and it is bugging me that I >cannot remember who sings it. it's several years old >(1993-ish?) and it's called "mother, mother" or something. >she talks about experimenting with tobacco and lifting up >her skirt, mellow verses, screams the chorus, remember it? >I know someone must. yeah, I know, great clues... Way more clues than anyone would need. You're thinking of Mother, Mother by Tracy Bonham. I bought her CD just for that fabulous song and the emotion Bonham expresses as she sings it. Fav Disney movie: The original 101 Dalmations. I fantasized that I was Pongo because I thought Perdita was beautiful and I wanted her to be my mate, and I slept for years with a stuffed Dalmation puppy I named Patch. I can't believe I just confessed all that. Now I'm going to disappear for Spring Break. John - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- John A. Johnson http://cac.psu.edu/~j5j/ My views do not necessarily reflect the official views of Penn State. Penn State is not responsible for my behavior. Nor am I for the university's. "Don't take yourself too seriously/There are precious few things worth hating nowadays/And none of them is me." -- Todd Rundgren ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 04:53:21 -0500 From: Jason Long Subject: FWD: Message posted to incorrect list address From: "brent cleland" Subject: dogma and ...... hey all, I have respond to the person who was disapointed with Kevin Smith's latest masterpiece. I walked out of that movie, cleansed. The writing was pure genius. His insight into the Catholic faith and plain Theology was amazing. True there were some flaws, but the meat of the movie was brilliant. The conversations between Damon and Afflects character blew me away. Moving almost. I must admit I was also happily suprised to Janneane Garofollo's cameo. I am a huge fan and I have a small crush on her. As well was it not kewl to see Aimee Mann post yesterday? later brent "I haven't stopped vomitting since I started working in this office" Kim Gordon - Sonic Youth ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 05:07:07 EST From: Juvenilia@aol.com Subject: That's The Sound Of Your Brain Cracking Hello peoples.... This isn't a Liz post, so I apologize. I just wanted to add more to the Tracy Bonham enquiring mind. Since "The Burdens Of Being Upright" Tracy had been touring with Lilith Fair and from what I heard, was preparing to release her newest album "Trails Of A Dust Devil", but she, like many others is experiencing difficulties with her record label. The album was due out in 1998, but as you can see... nothing so far. The only sampling I've heard of any new Tracy tunes would be that of her track "Meat Hook" which she performs live on one of the latest Lilith Fair compilations. Pretty good song. Anyhow, just wanted to give a little more info... Back to obscurity I go... Sometimes, Robbie "She kisses harder than me. I guess I'm not that hungry." --TRACY BONHAM THE SLICK DIVIDE - http://www.valmccown.com/lizphair.html ps.) On a sidenote, a message to MEREDITH: I recently was introduced to someone who knows of you. I'll e-mail you soon and tell you about it. I found it interesting. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 08:09:39 EST From: "Jen Lott" Subject: Disney and Liz poster on Dawson My favorite Disney movies are Mulan, Beauty and the Beast and Lion King. What about all that kinky stuff people have been seeing In Disney movie lately? Does anyone think they're imagining things? I do not believe someone Joey was visiting had a Liz poster! Cause Dawson's such a stupid show anymore it's almost an insult. Jen "Some cultures are defined by their relationships to cheese." - Juniper "Joon" Pearl (Mary Stuart Masterson), BENNY AND JOON ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 10:34:56 EST From: Headache79@aol.com Subject: Re: angels, clerks, etc. hey all, okay, my favorite angel was kate jackson. ah, sabrina. the smart one. of course she had that sucky car. so... what's your theory on that one? curious over here. clerks... i used to work in a video store, and i used to get questions like "you remember that movie with that guy that came out last year?" all the time. yes, the general population does seem to be getting stupider. had a cool liz dream last night where she and I were hanging out at this club, listening to a shitty band drinking beer and laughing at people. then after the show we ended up fighting ninja's... well, it sorta degenerated after that into your typical dream b.s. but up until the ninja part it was way cool just to be hanging out with liz and remarking upon people, "like what is she doing with that baloney head?" and stuff like that. later, paul ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 13:14:30 EST From: TADude9999@aol.com Subject: tracy bonham In regard to Jasons comment about Tracy Bonham: Although she's not "Lizlike", this CD that Jase refers to is pretty darn good. It's called "The Burdens of Being Upright" if my memory is accurate. TAD ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 13:32:53 -0800 (PST) From: Miz Phair Subject: buddy judge reference in EW In the new issue of Ent. Weekly - Pamela Lee on the cover (uggles), the quotes section quotes Aimee Mann, who paraphrases her friend (and guitarist and Liz guitarist) Buddy Judge on winning an Oscar. "Then I'll know I really suck," was something like how it goes... paige- ===== "I've been frozen, now it's so hot I can barely see I've been cutting them down so they can't make fun of me, yeah." Liz Phair, "Russian Girl" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 15:48:02 -0800 (PST) From: Miz Phair Subject: patterns in the chaos (on topic) Hi all- OK, I'm looking for patterns in the chaos after the Disney fiasco. BTW, if OT is off-topic, how do you specify on-topic? Just with a general post, I guess. Anyway, how about a pop quiz, comphairiots? Some of these are similar to previously posed questions, but your answers may have changed... What is? 1.) The Liz album you'd play to convert someone? 2.) Does your answer change if the person is your mom? If so, what album? 3.) What Liz song should be on your answering machine? 4.) What Liz song would you ask for if allowed to pick ONE? Notice the specific use of the word one. It's a tough question, try hard. 5.) What one Liz song do you not need to hear again? Any reason why? 6.) Who's your favorite movie actor of all-time? 7.) Who's your fave movie actress of all-time? 8.) Who's your fave songwriter? 9.) Who's your fave musician? 10.) Who's your fave singer? Just looking for some patterns in the chaos, to quote Jodie Foster in "Contact," which I just watched... Eagerly awaiting answers, paige- ===== "I've been frozen, now it's so hot I can barely see I've been cutting them down so they can't make fun of me, yeah." Liz Phair, "Russian Girl" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 19:44:42 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine Lewis Subject: Pixies Tribute (non-Liz related) A few days ago, Gabe wrote: > Hearing everyone talk about covers gives me the nerve > to ask if anyone has heard the tribute album to the > Pixies yet. Is it any good? Do the bands do their own > take or are they just trying to sound like the Pixies? I haven't heard it yet, but a good friend of mine is on it. (Well, his band is -- they did a song for it). And knowing him and knowing his band (and based on what another friend of mine who has the tribute has told me), he's not just "trying to sound like the Pixies" -- he took the song and did his own rendition of it. Hope that helps, Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 21:46:20 -0500 (EST) From: Laurel Ann Ullman Subject: My Un-date (and related lyrics) Hi there. THis has absolutely nothing to do with LIz. But I feel like I have some sort of connection to you people. I'm just down. I was stood up tonight. A week and a half ago I was stood up by a different guy. Are there any decent guys out there? Probably some on this list. NOt that thta's a solicitation. Maybe I should give up the whole thing for a while? Go lesbian? Any thoughts? I met him at a party...I want all the stupid old shit like letters and sonnets... I do. Laurel U ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 19:45:33 From: Kenneth Lee Subject: Mesmerizing - updated again! Hello everyone, I'm writing to let you know that I've updated my Liz site slightly. If you go to the site, click on the Liz Books section. From there, you'll see a brand new book excerpt transcription. Need more incentive? If you liked the picture of Liz on the index page, you'll get to see the entire picture if you follow the link from the new book excerpt. Okay? Don't forget to thank me, Steve Kisko! Oh, and one very belated response to a post in the support-system-digest V3 #41: >oh, and lastly, regarding the new coverpage photo at the >mesmerizing site, i have to say: god bless ken lee... :-) um, why thank you! - -Ken kenmlee@ix.netcom.com MeSmErIzInG - AnOtHeR LiZ PhAiR WeBsItE http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/2471/ ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V3 #59 ***********************************