From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V2 #352 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Wednesday, December 1 1999 Volume 02 : Number 352 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Mesmerizing noise [Emerald314@aol.com] Alternative Press ["Kim P" ] Alternative Press ["Kim P" ] Re: new album title/AP article [Vasant Ramamurthy ] Re: Title ["John B" ] Mesmerizing and mp3's from 930... ["Luu, Jennifer K" ] mysterious - o ["DarkSide oftheMoon" ] Re: new album title ["Al" ] Best of '99 [Easter ] Re: Lizzie Questionaire ["Jennifer R Rupe" ] Noises in Mesmerizing ["sonoma8 (CarterC)" ] re: weird noises [Mark McKee ] Re: Best of '99 [Miz Phair ] liz article from '98 [Mark McKee ] mesmerizing noises/Poll 2 Too! [Miz Phair ] Strange noises in EIG [Easter ] Poll 2 Too! [Miz Phair ] Liz Bootlegs ["Bad Dreams" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 01:32:58 EST From: Emerald314@aol.com Subject: Mesmerizing noise I always thought it was a dog growling....especially since on the inside of the cd case where it lists who played what instruments on what songs and stuff, it says "O - snarl" for Mesmerizing. I figured O was somebody's dog or something. Anybody else have any insights? ~Emily ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:36:16 PST From: "Kim P" Subject: Alternative Press Hi Phairies, Just wondering where I can pick up a copy of Alternative Press. By the way I to can't wait until the new album and I LOVE the title! Kim AIM: Juvenilia9 ICQ: 18360982 Web Page: http://www.angelfire.com/ak2/sandiego523 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:36:16 PST From: "Kim P" Subject: Alternative Press Hi Phairies, Just wondering where I can pick up a copy of Alternative Press. By the way I to can't wait until the new album and I LOVE the title! Kim AIM: Juvenilia9 ICQ: 18360982 Web Page: http://www.angelfire.com/ak2/sandiego523 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:39:32 -0600 From: Vasant Ramamurthy Subject: Re: new album title/AP article I guess the rest of you disagree with me, but I really don't like the title of Liz's new album. I sincerely hope she changes it. "An Evening with..." just sounds so pompous, and that's not Liz at all. Vasant - ----- The Wave of Mutilation: the very best in indie rock/pop & other classics Sundays, 2-4 pm. (central) Live in RealAudio at http://kwur.wustl.edu Playlists at http://vasant.tsx.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 01:59:24 EST From: "John B" Subject: Re: Title "An Evening with..." Hmmm. Isn't that a Burt Bacharch CD? (Maybe thats One Amazing Night.) Ok, I won't "beat around the bush." I really don't think it's that great a title. Lets try to be a bit more imaginative, you know. It's also misleading - it sounds like a live or unplugged album. I know it's just tentative, but I hope it won't stick. Now that I gave my two cents, I'II be getting back change, :) Does anyone have the set list or has made a CD jewel case cover for the 930 show (a good one)? If so could you please email me. Thanks, JB .357 Sig. Rules ! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 02:04:44 -0500 From: "Luu, Jennifer K" Subject: Mesmerizing and mp3's from 930... First somebody wrote... > >has anyone ever noticed the weird noises at the end of > track 9, mesmerizing? To this I say...yes, I have noticed that sound...and I believe that the first time someone mentioned this, the person was writing a paper in a computer lab or something...?...I am assuming, then, that you were (obviously) listening to her on headphones and I just wanted to give a big shout-out to listening to music on headphones...ESPECIALLY LIZ!! It is such an amazing thing that I don't think people do, or appreciate enough, however strange I may sound saying that. You hear things that you've never heard before even though you've owned the album for 3 years, and that you'd probably never hear otherwise. 'Tis my belief that everyone should listen to every LIZ song ever made w/ headphones AT LEAST once in their lifetime...:) ...And then someone else wrote... > i'd always taken the noise as that aerosol whip cream (creami-whip, or > something else misspelled), which i had always visualized someone > spraying directly into their mouth, an act which has always mesmerized > me. > > speaking of things in eig, i've always thought it was really cool how > the second layer of liz vocals in Girls!Girls!Girls! sings the exact > same lyrics, but with a tone entirely different than the one the > prominent vocals present. she sounds drunk. I agree w/ what you think that sound is..I always thought it was some form of aerosol-whip-cream-pressurized-type can too...OR that crazy spit-sucker-upper-hose that dentists use while they're working on your teeth!! Either one...And I think it's so awesome that you notice those little subtle pieces of her songs that make them so subconsciously brilliant (so to speak)!! One thing that I really love is that cymbal sound after every "...boxed it up and buried it in the ground.." in DIVORCE SONG...sigh..so brilliant.... > Subject: Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn... > > An Evening With... > Oh yippee!! Y'all know what? I don't care what it's called, or what > songs she (or the folks in the biz) decide to put on the new > release--it's a new release & I'm just happy for that! HA! I don't give a damn either!! I mean, I think the name's brilliant too, but yes! I am just happy that it is LIZ! And that she is putting something out!! Man, she is just the Best...also, in case anybody cares, I do like "Love/Hate Transmission"...I like it a lot, actually... > From: "overpavement" > Subject: Re: refreshed ra's and mp3's > > new songs from 4/27/99 show @ 930 in d.c.: > > johnny feelgood and flower in both RA and mp3 formats. > uncle alvarez and wcse in mp3 only, until tomorrow or the next day when i > can get the > RA's uploaded. > > at: http://homepages.msn.com/cookingct/crookedrain/lpramp3s.html ...And to YOU, overpavement@hotmail.com, I just wanted to say THAAAAANK YOUUUUU for putting up all these songs, b/c I am from Northern VA, and I went to that show and I think it is really awesome that I can download songs from a show that I've been to...like, I remember that PERFECT WORLD encore like it was yesterday...so THANKS!!!! - -Jennifer ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 04:02:42 PST From: "DarkSide oftheMoon" Subject: mysterious - o a couple people have pondered: >has anyone ever noticed the weird noises at the end oftrack 9, mesmerizing? >>I always thought that was a small dog growling, I picture a little pug or >>something. Never thought of keys.... ummm...anyone read the credits for that song?.... after the ususal liz, bradd, casey it reads the very last one is " o - snarl " so we can assume(?) that "o" is responsible....i always thought it was a small dog tearing the shit out of a sock or sumthin and rattling his dog tags in the process... DarkSide oftheMoon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 99 10:47:42 -0800 From: "Al" Subject: Re: new album title >I know I've said it before but I have a feeling that >"An Evening With..." is going to sound like a >combination of all three of Liz's previous albums, >which is a great thing in my book. I think it'll have >the raw brilliance of Exile, the rockers of >Whip-Smart, and the new-wave out of this world stuff >of WCSE. I really think she'll release the new album >by spring, maybe summer at the latest. I don't know, >I just have a feeling Liz won't delay this one. I >hope I'm right! > >Craig "AdRock" > >Liz - WCSE Hey Craig, I have exactly the same feelings on this and I think it is going to be one awesome album. I see her meshing all the best qualities of the 3 albums which in my opinion would make it too cool. Yes!!! Al Sixty Nine in the afternoon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:34:56 -0800 (PST) From: Easter Subject: Best of '99 Since I'm only expecting one new cd till '99 is over, I've thought of sharing what I think are the best albums (top five) for this year: 1. Stone Temple Pilots - No. 4 2. Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers - Echo 3. Luscious Jackson - Electric Honey 4. Tori Amos - To Venus and Back 5. Fiona Apple - When the Pawn + 87 Other great albums that didn't make the list: Shannon Curfman - Loud Guitars, Big Suspicions The Cranberries - Bury the Hatchet Paula Cole - Amen Sarah McLachlan - Mirrorball Dixie Chicks - Fly Trish Murphy - Rubies on the Lawn Guilty confessions (CDs I actually bought and listened to, only to trade them in): Smash Mouth - Astro Lounge Geri Halliwell - blah blah blah...what was it called again? *hides* Quite obvious what I'm looking forward to next year! Shiny and new, Katie ();) NP: Madonna_Immaculate Collection __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:17:47 -0600 From: "Jennifer R Rupe" Subject: Re: Lizzie Questionaire Finally got around to it!! >Subject: Lizzie Questionaire > > >1.) What was the first Liz Phair song you heard? Supernova - heard it on MTV or the radio - not sure. >2.) How did it come about? (Radio, magazine, TV, Lilith...) A guy in my speech class freshman year in college did a little ditty on her. >3.) What do you feel is the quintessential Liz song? The song that belongs in a time capsule, >that sort of thing... Explain it to Me. >4.) What is your favorite Liz song (Different question, at least for me) Strangeloop. >5.) What's the first Liz video you saw? Polyester Bride. >6.) What's your fave Liz video? None - didn't know what the whole egg thing in the above mentioned was for... >7.) Do you have a favorite Liz talk show appearance? Think I saw her on Jay Leno. >8.) How many times have you seen her live? (Details encouraged, I've been a fan since EIG >but STILL haven't seen her live yet.) Twice - saw her at Lillith Fair in Saint Louis and then in Iowa City in April of '99 (drove from Kansas City to there in back all in one night just to see her - and made it into work the next morning!!). Killer show and so incredibly intimate!! >9.) Have you ever met her? More details, please... Met her in Saint Louis during a signing. My boyfriend at the time was standing in line with me and he shunned an autograph from her! It was a very bizarre interaction b/t the two of them. >10.) What is/are your prize Liz possession(s)? The signed postcard from above, my Girlysound CDs from Patrick (never though they were going to come in the mail), and my Pharities tape. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 18:27:17 -0800 From: "sonoma8 (CarterC)" Subject: Noises in Mesmerizing I thought it was someone sucking up the last drops of a milkshake thru a straw. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:36:30 -0800 (PST) From: Mark McKee Subject: re: weird noises You can also here a TV program in the background of "Canary" M a r K __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 18:01:21 -0800 (PST) From: Miz Phair Subject: Re: Best of '99 - --- Easter wrote: > Since I'm only expecting one new cd till '99 is > over, > I've thought of sharing what I think are the best > albums (top five) for this year: > > 1. Stone Temple Pilots - No. 4 > 2. Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers - Echo > 3. Luscious Jackson - Electric Honey > 4. Tori Amos - To Venus and Back > 5. Fiona Apple - When the Pawn + 87 > I'll play too... 1. Fiona Apple - When the Pawn... 2. Ben Folds Five - The Unauthorized Biography of Reinhold Messner 3. Tori Amos - To Venus and Back 4. David Bowie - Hours (is this the name? i just blanked and my album's not with me! 5. Ani DiFranco - To the Teeth paige- ===== "I know I was born to lead a double life. Of murderous strife and misery. And when I find it, I know I'll make sense of me." - --Liz Phair __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 18:41:40 -0800 (PST) From: Mark McKee Subject: liz article from '98 you've probably already read this, but there's a really neat Liz article from '98 at [> http://www.towerrecords.com/pulse/98/august/cover/index.html It was conducted by Kim Gordon and is really personal. M a r k If the link didn't lite up, forgive me. I can't remember how to do it. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:59:42 -0800 (PST) From: Miz Phair Subject: mesmerizing noises/Poll 2 Too! Hi there- I've really enjoyed the Mesmerizing thread. Whenever I listen to the song, I've always pictured someone drawing huge circles with chalk when I hear the end noises. It's probably nothing like that, but that's just the image I get. I haven't tallied up first poll results (been too sick to do read much more than the average TV Guide summary - - or short Alternative Press piece), but I have some more questions I wanted to ask of all of you... 1.) Rate Liz's albums in order of your preference 2.) What's your least favorite Liz song? 3.) What song would you request of her in concert? 4.) What song would you prefer not to hear in concert? 5.) What's your favorite Liz soundtrack song? 6.) What's your fave Liz Web site to visit? 7.) What artist do you think is most similar to Liz? 8.) How have you fared in attempts to "convert" others to the glories (hee, hee) of Phairdom? Can't wait to hear the answers! BTW, does anyone have an extra copy of the Calvin Klein ad with Liz lying down. All I have is the seated one. p- ===== "I know I was born to lead a double life. Of murderous strife and misery. And when I find it, I know I'll make sense of me." - --Liz Phair __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:05:01 -0800 (PST) From: Easter Subject: Strange noises in EIG Ohk...so shoot me for this being my second post for today, but I always forget. I'm human. :) Add a note to strange noises in EIG. The sound at the end of Explain It To Me - it sounds like a drum and I've thought of it as a heart beat dying out. Then, there's another thing I've always wanted to mention. Back when there was discussions of White Bird of Texas....When Liz says, "I've been consigned to rot in the earth..." That part always made me think of Marvin the Martian cuz of his saying, "I plan to blow up the earth." Oh well....some similarities. Katie ();) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:26:19 -0800 (PST) From: Miz Phair Subject: Poll 2 Too! > 1.) Rate Liz's albums in order of your preference I guess order of release, right now... EIG, WS, WCSE, oh, then JUV > 2.) What's your least favorite Liz song? God, I really don't have one. But if forced at gunpoint, I guess Oh My God. But I love the That's the Way part with it... > 3.) What song would you request of her in concert? Don't Have Time, probably cause it's not one of the usual ones done. > 4.) What song would you prefer not to hear in > concert? I'll hear anything if I finally get to see her! Even Speed Racer!! > 5.) What's your favorite Liz soundtrack song? Don't Have Time > 6.) What's your fave Liz Web site to visit? I love them all; everyone's so inventive. But I always check out Mesmerizing first. > 7.) What artist do you think is most similar to Liz? Does Alanis owe something to Liz? I think so. > 8.) How have you fared in attempts to "convert" > others > to the glories (hee, hee) of Phairdom? My first convert was the best. She listened to EIG and proclaimed "Liz Phair is God!" And she was right. The others have been harder sells, but I keep trying... p- ===== "I can grow Despite all you know You might not recognize me tomorrow." - --Liz Phair, "Firewalker" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 21:46:19 PST From: "Bad Dreams" Subject: Liz Bootlegs Hi everyone, I am looking for someone generous people to please, please, please, make me copies of any of the following, Live : Minneapolis 1998 Live : The Vic 1998 Live : Chicago 1996 Live : Holyoke 1999 Live : Shankhall 1995 Live : Chicago 1996 Live : Providence 1999 Live : Trobador 1993 on preferably CD, but tape is okay. I have nothing to trade but am willing to pay for blanks, postage and time if neccessary. Thanks for listening, Lost ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V2 #352 ************************************