From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V2 #325 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Thursday, November 4 1999 Volume 02 : Number 325 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: support-system-digest V2 #324 [RocketBoyD@aol.com] i have neglected my duty... [Ascending to the Stars ] Liz & Phish ["Becky Crow" ] Nashville ["Allison" ] Re: Elizabeth ["Al" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 01:24:21 EST From: RocketBoyD@aol.com Subject: Re: support-system-digest V2 #324 I know that she meant her father...but I meant how she referred to her dad in the Dr. Phair form, rather than dad, or you, or father..........It's kinda chilly that she doesn't even address him by his name, just by Doctor Phair.........it highlights the distance that Liz had with her father.............sorry to confuse y'all with the post still orbiting, Phil (RocketBoy) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 02:01:30 -0500 From: Ascending to the Stars Subject: i have neglected my duty... in keeping you all informed of the cool music with which i have been gracing the airwaves. since i am not doing my show (actually, did not do, by the time the digest comes out) because of QUASI in boston, i will start with the 10/20 edition of deceive inveigle obfuscate, and post last week's list later on. yo la tengo little honda samiam (off the where;s my mind pixies tribute) here comes your man brilliantine underwater camera number one cup dive bomb beulah the aristocratic swell (liz-- explain it to me as background music while i talked) edith frost telescopic archer pruitt leave it gone lois 2 hearts luna the old fashioned way barbara manning marcus leid belle and sebastian i dont' love anymore magnetic fields i can't touch you anymore panama stanford kristin hersh cathedral heat the smiths there is a light that never goes out (liz-- shatter, while i talked) my bloody valentine to here knows when spirit varnish broken dishes sleater kinney burn, dont' freeze promise ring arms and danger juicy fuck you, i'm cool [yeah!] cadallaca your one wish (cadallace theme, while talking) starry eyes radio! versus dumb fun the magnets my mistake quasi me and my head spinanes manos folk implosion back to the sunrise clem snide your night to shine ida 6... throwing muses snakeface alright, sorry, but i've been busy. school work sucks. but i will add, to go back to an old thread, that kristin hersh -- especially hips and makers-- is really good make-out music. (:ruthie:) NP-- kristin hesh, "hips and makers".... - -- *******Deceive*******Inveigle*******Obfuscate******* "Wild and unwise, I wanna be mesmerizing, too" "So I hope you all will see, there just isn't a place here for me" --Liz Phair "With you here with me I could be happy ... I miss who I used to be" --Jen Trynin "What's the matter with the truth, did I offend your ears?" --Aimee Mann ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 08:59:41 -0500 From: valerieb@mindspring.com Subject: little bit o' liz content phil distinctly heard: "Elizabeth help me I can't find the room...." ...and i want to say *thank you*!!! i never could figure out what she said before "help me," which can really mess up a good singalong,and now i know and katie brown, i must echo your account of how the lines from crater lake make you think of college days (but *my* escort - "the mighty escort" - was a 1987 model). and, to the person (whose name i forgot, and i can't access the message now) whose kids are getting into your old (and progressively newer) music...that must be the coolest feeling, for your kids to like what you like. i hope if i ever get around to having kids, i too can impart good taste on my little monsters! reminiscing and learning every day, valerie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:00:48 -0500 From: "Cooper, Jennifer" Subject: Guitar tabs and Liz on a bus Hi, I haven't posted in about a year and I've been pretty lax on keeping up with Liz Phair since I've started working. But I'm trying to get back in the swing of things by reading the digests more regularly etc. Anyway I was wondering if anyone knows of a good site for finding guitar tabs for Liz's songs besides what they have up on Olga. I know I've asked this before in the past but I just bought an electric guitar (I've pretty much been an acoustic guitar and bass girl) and am ready to play some real Liz songs. Only I don't have time to sit down and figure them out for myself, which would be the best way, but you know how that goes. Hey I was back home in Chicago over the weekend and saw something really cool on the side of a CTA bus- a huge photo of Liz in her Calvin Klein ad. Has anyone else seen it? It's pretty cool, keep your eyes out for it. Well I guess that's all for now, I better get back to work, Jen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:12:38 -0500 From: "Becky Crow" Subject: Liz & Phish Ok...please don't let this start up all the bashing that happens every time Phish is mentioned on this list. Liz has not toured with Phish, however last Fall, they played the full WCSE album prior to their shows several times. I heard it myself the Friday night Hampton show and my Phish-head roommates reported to me that it was a common pre-show album. Other than that, I know of no other connection between the two. > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 11:32:32 -0500 > From: Sarah May Scott > Subject: Re: support-system-digest V2 #322 > > I heard a rumor that Liz toured with Phish? What's the word on this? > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:03:35 -0600 From: "Allison" Subject: Nashville I'm glad to see that others are as affected as I am by that part in Nashville: "I can't imagine any better times than naked, half awake, about to shave and go to work...." That has to be my favorite line of hers, and she sings it with such passion. Anyone have any info about this song, i.e. a mention of it in an interview? I have thought that Liz was possibly singing this song in the voice of her partner, as the male, talking about her fame: "They don't know what they like so much about it, they just go for any shining bauble, but nobody sparkles like you" and their relationship. This would explain the shaving part, unless Liz herself likes to shave every morning.... I'm curious about the significance of the title of the song too. Anyone? Thanks, Allison ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Nov 99 16:31:41 -0800 From: "Al" Subject: Re: Elizabeth >Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 01:31:36 EST >From: RocketBoyD@aol.com >Subject: You're Triflin' > >I have a question to all y'all out there: > Is the version of "Waiting For the Bird" on the Polyester Bride single >basically the same as the one on the WSCE demos? I really like that song, >especially the lyric: "Elizabeth help me I can't find the room...." I love >it when Liz refers to herself in the third person.....It's kinda like the >lyric at the end of "Stuck On An Island",...."Aloha, doctor Phair." >It's a >very effective technique...... And it's definitely a lot less egotistical >and self-indulgent than Mrs. Houston's, "I thought I had somebody down for >Whitney...." Where's the intelligence and sophistication in mainstream >music >today? Cause I ain't looking for someone to pay my bills................. > >just trifilin' here at my computer, >Phil (aka RocketBoy) This is one of my all-time favorite Liz songs so I like to listen to it over and over when I can. The lyrics are so awesome. As for the Elizabeth part? Well, this may sound kinda bizarre but I always wondered who she was calling out to and came to the conclusion that it was the wife of Fred G. Sanford of the 70s tv show "Sanford and Son". Liz Phair is the same age as I am and I grew up as a kid watching this TV program and she probably watched it also. Anyone remember the "Elizabeth, honey, I'm coming to join you!" line Redd Fox used to use all the time as he faked a heart attack? Anyway, I came to this conclusion because of the context of the lyrics. It's all about death and dying and waiting for your time to come and since Elizabeth Sanford is dead, well, I'm probably way off on this but I think it is cool. Liz also uses a lot of humor in her music and I just thought that if this "theory" of mine concerning this Elizabeth part in the song were so, that that is too funny and too cool of her. Sixty... Nine in the afternoon Al ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V2 #325 ************************************